"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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Iain Churches wrote:
Kef had an even larger driver than the B139, known as the B1814
which was eighteen by fourteen inches. It was used in the Kef K1
monitor.
I have a pair of these, ex BBC. They can bee seen at:

http://www.kef.com/history/1960/k1monitor.asp

Where were they in use, Iain? KEF also made at least some of the BBC
designed LS 5/1s of that era.

My pal in BBC transcription put me on to them. I have never seen another
pair. When Raymond Cooke was alive, I mentioned to him once at an AES
convention that I had a pair of K1s, and he expressed an interest in
having them back on a "new lamps for old" basis.


Lowther will do much the same, I gather - not a straight swap though..

How did your Lowther weekend go - have you been yet?

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Iain Churches wrote:

Kef had an even larger driver than the B139, known as the B1814
which was eighteen by fourteen inches. It was used in the Kef K1 monitor.
I have a pair of these, ex BBC. They can bee seen at:

http://www.kef.com/history/1960/k1monitor.asp

Why do all cabinets of that era look like ( as dull as ) Lockwoods ?

Graham

:Lockwoods? They're brilliant! I am looking out for a pair of Majors.
Please let me know, Graham if you come across any.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


Iain

Iain Churches wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Iain Churches wrote:

Kef had an even larger driver than the B139, known as the B1814
which was eighteen by fourteen inches. It was used in the Kef K1 monitor.
I have a pair of these, ex BBC. They can bee seen at:

http://www.kef.com/history/1960/k1monitor.asp

Why do all cabinets of that era look like ( as dull as ) Lockwoods ?

Graham

:Lockwoods? They're brilliant! I am looking out for a pair of Majors.
Please let me know, Graham if you come across any.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

You'll excuse me if I say I think they look rubbish then ?

Incidentally, when I was at Sound Developments we had a few Lockwoods for hire
with Tannoys inside of course.

I was never much taken by the Monitor Golds but the Reds sounded much better to
my ears.

Graham

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
writes
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
Kef had an even larger driver than the B139, known as the B1814 which
was eighteen by fourteen inches. It was used in the Kef K1 monitor. I
have a pair of these, ex BBC. They can bee seen at:

http://www.kef.com/history/1960/k1monitor.asp

Why do all cabinets of that era look like ( as dull as ) Lockwoods ?

Lockwood, of course, started out as cabinet makers and supplied the BBC
with all sorts of custom made enclosures not only related to audio. Then
ventured into speaker making. For a while they were flavour of the month
for pop monitoring. Dunno if they still exist.


http://www.lockwoodaudio.co.uk/
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Tony Sayer

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Lockwood, of course, started out as cabinet makers and supplied the BBC
with all sorts of custom made enclosures not only related to audio. Then
ventured into speaker making. For a while they were flavour of the month
for pop monitoring. Dunno if they still exist.


http://www.lockwoodaudio.co.uk/

Ah - good. Sad they don't seem to make speakers or cabinet work anymore.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
I was talking about *this* NG.
There are very few fettlers.

Seems to me the 'fettlers' are mainly those who mess about with ancient
technology which by nature *needs* fettling.

Ancient technology?

Not that there's anything
wrong with that as a hobby. Anymore than playing around with old cars,
etc. As long as one retains a hold on reality...

Then I suggest you guve it a try. That would be retaining a hold on
reality. Good luck.

Scott

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Kef had an even larger driver than the B139, known as the B1814
which was eighteen by fourteen inches. It was used in the Kef K1
monitor.
I have a pair of these, ex BBC. They can bee seen at:

http://www.kef.com/history/1960/k1monitor.asp

Where were they in use, Iain? KEF also made at least some of the BBC
designed LS 5/1s of that era.

My pal in BBC transcription put me on to them. I have never seen another
pair. When Raymond Cooke was alive, I mentioned to him once at an AES
convention that I had a pair of K1s, and he expressed an interest in
having them back on a "new lamps for old" basis.


Lowther will do much the same, I gather - not a straight swap though..

Yes. Lowther have an upgrade path, but it is not cheap.

How did your Lowther weekend go - have you been yet?

Yes. It was last weekend. Quite fascinating. I am still recovering:-)
More to follow on this subject.

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wrote:
Seems to me the 'fettlers' are mainly those who mess about with ancient
technology which by nature *needs* fettling.

Ancient technology?

How would you describe something dating back to well over 100 years?

Not that there's anything
wrong with that as a hobby. Anymore than playing around with old cars,
etc. As long as one retains a hold on reality...

Then I suggest you guve it a try. That would be retaining a hold on
reality. Good luck.

It's possible I bought my first record before your father was born. I have
a large collection of LPs and still sometimes listen to some. Unlike many,
I didn't junk them and dispose of a means of playing them when CD got
established and was shown to be so much better. Because CD is capable of
far better results doesn't mean I can't still enjoy listening to an LP.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:
Seems to me the 'fettlers' are mainly those who mess about with ancient
technology which by nature *needs* fettling.

Ancient technology?

How would you describe something dating back to well over 100 years?

Depends on what it is. If it's a redwood I describe it as new growth.
If it's technology like Photography I describe it as mature. If it's
something like oil painting or sculpting I describe it as timeless. Do
you have or know of any records that are "well over 100 years" old?
Modern vinyl LPs are what less than seventy years old? Srtereo LPs are
what les than 60 years old? We are talking about a technology that has
steadily improved over the years despite the denial of dorks like you.
It is a mture technology. CD has matured as well. That is why the best
ones have been made more recently. The idea that newer is better is
absurd. I guess video is better than film? Microwave is better than
conventional cooking?



Not that there's anything
wrong with that as a hobby. Anymore than playing around with old cars,
etc. As long as one retains a hold on reality...

Then I suggest you guve it a try. That would be retaining a hold on
reality. Good luck.

It's possible I bought my first record before your father was born.

1923.

I have
a large collection of LPs and still sometimes listen to some.

And that proves what?

Unlike many,
I didn't junk them and dispose of a means of playing them when CD got
established and was shown to be so much better. Because CD is capable of
far better results doesn't mean I can't still enjoy listening to an LP.

Just because you claim you can enjoy an LP doesn't mean you have a grip
on reality. That you would use this as an argument suggests you have a
long way to go. Maybe you can provide us with some evidence in the way
of bias controlled listening comparisons?


Scott

wrote:

Ancient technology?
How would you describe something dating back to well over 100 years?

Depends on what it is. If it's a redwood I describe it as new growth.

Since when is a tree "technology"?


If it's technology like Photography I describe it as mature. If it's
something like oil painting or sculpting I describe it as timeless. Do
you have or know of any records that are "well over 100 years" old?

Nice collection of straw men.


Just because you claim you can enjoy an LP doesn't mean you have a
grip on reality. That you would use this as an argument suggests you
have a long way to go. Maybe you can provide us with some evidence in
the way of bias controlled listening comparisons?

Take a look at some of your own arguments. (Sheesh! tm)


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You're unique - just like everybody else.