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Iain Churches September 27th 06 06:03 AM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 
Some time ago, I mentioned the EMT range of turntables
on this NG and Dave P remarked that he had thrown
several of them onto a skip.

An EMT 927 was sold a couple of days ago on e-Bay
for Euro 16,938. The 927 is *not* considered to be
one of the most valuable models:-)

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ADME:B:EF:DE:2

Iain






Eeyore September 27th 06 06:44 AM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 


Iain Churches wrote:

Some time ago, I mentioned the EMT range of turntables
on this NG and Dave P remarked that he had thrown
several of them onto a skip.

An EMT 927 was sold a couple of days ago on e-Bay
for Euro 16,938. The 927 is *not* considered to be
one of the most valuable models:-)

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ADME:B:EF:DE:2


It's got an Ortofon RMG309 arm fitted if I'm not mistaken. Like wot I have !

Graham


Dave Plowman (News) September 27th 06 08:25 AM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Some time ago, I mentioned the EMT range of turntables
on this NG and Dave P remarked that he had thrown
several of them onto a skip.


Should add only after fairly exhaustive attempts had been made to dispose
of them to anyone who could make use of them. Including a secondhand
broadcast equipment dealer. Same happened to analogue tape machines in
their hundreds across the industry. Such things are simply too big and
ugly for most to want in their homes, and too expensive to store in the
hope they would have some value one day.

Those EMT turntables were a hangover from the days when discs would be
played direct into a TV programme. But later practice was near always to
transfer to tape which would be done in a central area so studio disc
players became redundant. A disc used for play in direct in broadcast is
likely to lead a very hard life, so it makes sense to transfer the tracks
needed to tape as required under ideal conditions.

What may be a point of interest is that I can't remember ever having seen
an EMT turntable at the BBC. TV used BBC designed units exclusively, and
R1 etc where discs were played in direct, Gates originally then Technic
DD. Of course the BBC is a vast place so they probably had them somewhere.

An EMT 927 was sold a couple of days ago on e-Bay
for Euro 16,938. The 927 is *not* considered to be
one of the most valuable models:-)


Some folk never cease to amaze me. Unless for its intended use - broadcast
play in direct from disc where the ability to cue up the material and
ruggedness is desirable - I'd have said any number of decent domestic
decks would do the job of just playing records better. Indeed, at the
time, we used Thorens decks with SME arms and Shure V15 cartridges for
plain transcription purposes. Nor were the Ortophon arms and cartridges
fitted to the EMTs designed for minimum record wear - more the ability to
track securely under arduous conditions in the days when records were
disposable items.

I'll give you another fact to make you weep, Iain. Sometime in the '80s,
the company I worked for swopped 8 working and complete but tatty AKG C12s
for a new pair of Bose 901s. So valued them at about 100 quid each. Wonder
what they'd fetch now? IIRC you can buy them new for about 5000 quid each.

--
*It was all so different before everything changed.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Keith G September 27th 06 08:32 AM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...
Some time ago, I mentioned the EMT range of turntables
on this NG and Dave P remarked that he had thrown
several of them onto a skip.

An EMT 927 was sold a couple of days ago on e-Bay
for Euro 16,938. The 927 is *not* considered to be
one of the most valuable models:-)

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ADME:B:EF:DE:2

Iain




They were lucky to sell it at all - it only had 3,605 'looks'.....

(Shows there's no real demand for this obsolete technology, doesn't it? ;-)








Keith G September 27th 06 08:47 AM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote


I'll give you another fact to make you weep, Iain. Sometime in the '80s,
the company I worked for swopped 8 working and complete but tatty AKG C12s
for a new pair of Bose 901s. So valued them at about 100 quid each. Wonder
what they'd fetch now? IIRC you can buy them new for about 5000 quid each.



My motorbike dealer friend got 7 quid a ton (scrap value) for *cellar upon
cellar* of old Brit bikes, frames, engines, wheels, spares &c. when he took
over his shop sometime back in the past. He estimated that it was no way
less than a quarter of a million quid's worth at the 'Classic Bike Boom'
prices at time of telling, about 10 years ago.....






Nick Gorham September 27th 06 09:05 AM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


What may be a point of interest is that I can't remember ever having seen
an EMT turntable at the BBC. TV used BBC designed units exclusively, and
R1 etc where discs were played in direct, Gates originally then Technic
DD. Of course the BBC is a vast place so they probably had them somewhere.


AFAIK (and you will probably know better having been there), the BBC
Technics SP10 motor unit was standard, the power supply was the modified
bit. The std SP10-mk2 supply was fixed speed, the BBC version allowed
incremental changes.

I only know as I am in the process of obtaining a non BBC SP10...

--
Nick

Dave Plowman (News) September 27th 06 10:01 AM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 
In article ,
Nick Gorham wrote:
AFAIK (and you will probably know better having been there), the BBC
Technics SP10 motor unit was standard, the power supply was the modified
bit. The std SP10-mk2 supply was fixed speed, the BBC version allowed
incremental changes.


Ah - right. I've never used these in anger as they appeared about the same
time as I left. Of course perhaps the most common BBC designed turntables
were based on proprietary units - the Garrard 301 and 401.

I only know as I am in the process of obtaining a non BBC SP10...


They were very popular at one time and highly regarded. Although not by
the likes of Lynn...

--
*Even a blind pig stumbles across an acorn now and again *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Nick Gorham September 27th 06 10:20 AM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nick Gorham wrote:

AFAIK (and you will probably know better having been there), the BBC
Technics SP10 motor unit was standard, the power supply was the modified
bit. The std SP10-mk2 supply was fixed speed, the BBC version allowed
incremental changes.



Ah - right. I've never used these in anger as they appeared about the same
time as I left. Of course perhaps the most common BBC designed turntables
were based on proprietary units - the Garrard 301 and 401.


I only know as I am in the process of obtaining a non BBC SP10...



They were very popular at one time and highly regarded. Although not by
the likes of Lynn...


Its a shame how much of my time is spent unlearning the marketing that
Linn placed in my head without noticing.

--
Nick

tony sayer September 27th 06 06:13 PM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
writes
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Some time ago, I mentioned the EMT range of turntables
on this NG and Dave P remarked that he had thrown
several of them onto a skip.


Should add only after fairly exhaustive attempts had been made to dispose
of them to anyone who could make use of them. Including a secondhand
broadcast equipment dealer. Same happened to analogue tape machines in
their hundreds across the industry. Such things are simply too big and
ugly for most to want in their homes, and too expensive to store in the
hope they would have some value one day.


Yep!, picked a Studer B67 out of a skip at a radio station where some
ignoramus had no idea what it was, and after a little TLC it performs
absolutely fine and dandy:))

--
Tony Sayer


Eeyore September 28th 06 04:18 AM

Turntables at giveaway prices
 


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Sometime in the '80s,
the company I worked for swopped 8 working and complete but tatty AKG C12s
for a new pair of Bose 901s.


Oowwwww !

And Bose too to add insult to injury.

"No highs, no lows - it must be Bose".

Graham



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