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Sharad November 22nd 06 08:19 AM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
Hi,

I listen to acoustic and vocal music. I love intimate close miked vocals and a lot of detail in my
music.
After listing to a few speakers, I have narrowed down to KEF iQ9 floor standers.
Now I need to select a matching amplifier. Any suggestions?

I have read some good reviews for the new Rotel RA-05 in W-HiFi. Going by the specs, a combination
of RA-06 + RB-06 sound exiting, if I use them to bi-amp the KEF iQ9. I have read that Rotel matches
well with B&W, but I haven't auditioned the B&W yet.

The choice of speakers is not cast in stone yet, so suggestions are welcome on that front too.

Thanks,
Sharad

Don Pearce November 22nd 06 08:28 AM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:49:54 +0530, Sharad wrote:

Hi,

I listen to acoustic and vocal music. I love intimate close miked vocals and a lot of detail in my
music.
After listing to a few speakers, I have narrowed down to KEF iQ9 floor standers.
Now I need to select a matching amplifier. Any suggestions?

I have read some good reviews for the new Rotel RA-05 in W-HiFi. Going by the specs, a combination
of RA-06 + RB-06 sound exiting, if I use them to bi-amp the KEF iQ9. I have read that Rotel matches
well with B&W, but I haven't auditioned the B&W yet.

The choice of speakers is not cast in stone yet, so suggestions are welcome on that front too.

Thanks,
Sharad


Choose the amplifier on the basis of features - does it have the
inputs you need? Does it have enough power for your speakers? Does it
look right in the room? The amplifier has advanced in design so far
today that you will be unable to tell them apart by sound.

As for the speakers, they need to match your room rather than the
music. Your room may be bright or dull - reverberant or absorptive,
and that is what will eventually determine which speakers work best.
Nobody here will be able to tell you which (they are fooling
themselves if they try). You need to get friendly with a good dealer
who will let you "try before you buy" a few different models so you
can make up your mind.

Finally one piece of advice I always give. If one particular speaker
makes you go "WOW, that's great", send it back to the dealer. You
won't be able to live with it in the long term, because good speakers
don't do that - they are invisible in the acoustic sense.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Serge Auckland November 22nd 06 10:50 AM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:49:54 +0530, Sharad wrote:

Hi,

I listen to acoustic and vocal music. I love intimate close miked vocals and a lot of detail in my
music.
After listing to a few speakers, I have narrowed down to KEF iQ9 floor standers.
Now I need to select a matching amplifier. Any suggestions?

I have read some good reviews for the new Rotel RA-05 in W-HiFi. Going by the specs, a combination
of RA-06 + RB-06 sound exiting, if I use them to bi-amp the KEF iQ9. I have read that Rotel matches
well with B&W, but I haven't auditioned the B&W yet.

The choice of speakers is not cast in stone yet, so suggestions are welcome on that front too.

Thanks,
Sharad


Choose the amplifier on the basis of features - does it have the
inputs you need? Does it have enough power for your speakers? Does it
look right in the room? The amplifier has advanced in design so far
today that you will be unable to tell them apart by sound.

As for the speakers, they need to match your room rather than the
music. Your room may be bright or dull - reverberant or absorptive,
and that is what will eventually determine which speakers work best.
Nobody here will be able to tell you which (they are fooling
themselves if they try). You need to get friendly with a good dealer
who will let you "try before you buy" a few different models so you
can make up your mind.

Finally one piece of advice I always give. If one particular speaker
makes you go "WOW, that's great", send it back to the dealer. You
won't be able to live with it in the long term, because good speakers
don't do that - they are invisible in the acoustic sense.

d


Sharad,

This is the best advice I've yet read on this NG. I should have written
it myself, but Don got there first. I would only add that the acoustics
of the room make a *huge* difference, and it will pay you to treat an
excessively lively room before making a final choice on 'speakers. I
have never found a normal domestic room to be excessively dead,- there's
normally enough diffusing materials around- so it's normally excess
brightness that needs treating.

S.

Sharad November 22nd 06 12:17 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:49:54 +0530, Sharad wrote:

Hi,

I listen to acoustic and vocal music. I love intimate close miked vocals and a lot of detail in my
music.
After listing to a few speakers, I have narrowed down to KEF iQ9 floor standers.
Now I need to select a matching amplifier. Any suggestions?

I have read some good reviews for the new Rotel RA-05 in W-HiFi. Going by the specs, a combination
of RA-06 + RB-06 sound exiting, if I use them to bi-amp the KEF iQ9. I have read that Rotel matches
well with B&W, but I haven't auditioned the B&W yet.

The choice of speakers is not cast in stone yet, so suggestions are welcome on that front too.

Thanks,
Sharad


Choose the amplifier on the basis of features - does it have the
inputs you need? Does it have enough power for your speakers? Does it
look right in the room? The amplifier has advanced in design so far
today that you will be unable to tell them apart by sound.

As for the speakers, they need to match your room rather than the
music. Your room may be bright or dull - reverberant or absorptive,
and that is what will eventually determine which speakers work best.
Nobody here will be able to tell you which (they are fooling
themselves if they try). You need to get friendly with a good dealer
who will let you "try before you buy" a few different models so you
can make up your mind.

Finally one piece of advice I always give. If one particular speaker
makes you go "WOW, that's great", send it back to the dealer. You
won't be able to live with it in the long term, because good speakers
don't do that - they are invisible in the acoustic sense.

d


Thanks for you advice Don.
I will surely try to hear the speakers in my listening room before making the final decision.

I would like to mention that different speakers do sound totally different to me, based on the music
I am playing. For example, the ones that play good beats and dance music (Polk, JBL, Jamo X series,
etc.) turn out to be poor performers when reproducing voice, or timber of a violin. It was an
interesting discovery for me that EPOS M5 is better at reproducing voices like Nora Jones, and Diana
Krall, than EPOS 12.2 or EPOS 22; though the M5 sound starts distorting as soon as you insert a
dance CD. I wonder if amps too have similar characteristics.

Thanks,
Sharad


Phil Allison November 22nd 06 12:44 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 

"Sharad"


I would like to mention that different speakers do sound totally different
to me, based on the music I am playing.



** But YOU have not head them in your own room ( must be a well damped
one or all bets are off) linked to the exact same gear, matched for volume
level and with the ability to AB at will - have you ???




For example, the ones that play good beats and dance music (Polk, JBL,
Jamo X series, etc.) turn out to be poor performers when reproducing
voice, or timber of a violin.



** But YOU have not head them in your own room ( must be a well damped
one or all bets are off), linked to the exact same gear, matched for volume
level and with the ability to AB at will - have you ???



It was an interesting discovery for me that EPOS M5 is better at
reproducing voices like Nora Jones, and Diana Krall,



** How the HELL do YOU have any idea what the voice quality on the CDs you
auditioned ought to sound like - eh ??

Was Nora or Diana there ???

Had a credible reference speaker there to compare with at the same time -
ie Quad ESL 63s or 988s ??

Or even a decent pair of headphones ???????

Obviously not.




than EPOS 12.2 or EPOS 22; though the M5 sound starts distorting as soon
as you insert a dance CD. I wonder if amps too have similar
characteristics.



** Keep on wondering.

Asinine ****heads like YOU are totally incorrigible.

The criminal scum that some jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men " will
just EAT YOU ALIVE and rob you blind.

Buuuuuuurrrrrrrpppppp......







....... Phil





Serge Auckland November 22nd 06 12:45 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
Sharad wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:49:54 +0530, Sharad wrote:

Hi,

I listen to acoustic and vocal music. I love intimate close miked
vocals and a lot of detail in my music.
After listing to a few speakers, I have narrowed down to KEF iQ9
floor standers.
Now I need to select a matching amplifier. Any suggestions?

I have read some good reviews for the new Rotel RA-05 in W-HiFi.
Going by the specs, a combination of RA-06 + RB-06 sound exiting, if
I use them to bi-amp the KEF iQ9. I have read that Rotel matches well
with B&W, but I haven't auditioned the B&W yet.

The choice of speakers is not cast in stone yet, so suggestions are
welcome on that front too.

Thanks,
Sharad


Choose the amplifier on the basis of features - does it have the
inputs you need? Does it have enough power for your speakers? Does it
look right in the room? The amplifier has advanced in design so far
today that you will be unable to tell them apart by sound.

As for the speakers, they need to match your room rather than the
music. Your room may be bright or dull - reverberant or absorptive,
and that is what will eventually determine which speakers work best.
Nobody here will be able to tell you which (they are fooling
themselves if they try). You need to get friendly with a good dealer
who will let you "try before you buy" a few different models so you
can make up your mind.

Finally one piece of advice I always give. If one particular speaker
makes you go "WOW, that's great", send it back to the dealer. You
won't be able to live with it in the long term, because good speakers
don't do that - they are invisible in the acoustic sense.

d


Thanks for you advice Don.
I will surely try to hear the speakers in my listening room before
making the final decision.

I would like to mention that different speakers do sound totally
different to me, based on the music I am playing. For example, the ones
that play good beats and dance music (Polk, JBL, Jamo X series, etc.)
turn out to be poor performers when reproducing voice, or timber of a
violin.



This shows that 'speakers (all 'speakers) have different amounts of
colouration. The mark of a *really good* 'speaker is one that sounds
good on all sorts of music. Now of course, if you only play one type of
music, then choosing a 'speaker for that type alone can be a solution,
but one that I suggest, you may come to regret. Some 'speakers have
peaky treble which superficially passes for greater detail, others may
have a boomy bass, which passes for "rhythm and timing". Better is to
find a pair that work on all sorts. Male and female speech is a good
test - does it sound like a real 'speaker, can you hear the acoustics of
the room it was recorded in?- Then move on to music.


It was an interesting discovery for me that EPOS M5 is better at
reproducing voices like Nora Jones, and Diana Krall, than EPOS 12.2 or
EPOS 22; though the M5 sound starts distorting as soon as you insert a
dance CD. I wonder if amps too have similar characteristics.

No, apart from facilities, these days amps only differ in the amount of
power they provide and the amount of current they can drive into low
impedances. This means that except for extreme loads and within their
power rating, they will all sound the same. I am, of course, referring
to modern Solid State amplifiers. Valved (tubed) amplifiers can have
much higher levels of distortion and limited power at frequency
extremes. (although there's no good reason for this, flat power delivery
with low distortion was solved in the late '50s and early '60s) Single
Ended Triodes are particularly bad in this respect. Their output
impedance is so high that their frequency response depends greatly on
the impedance characteristic of the loudspeaker they are driving. Those
that love SETs, (there are several on this NG) obviously like the
combination of high distortion and whatever frequency response results
from their choice of 'speakers. I suspect, however, that it's not a case
of preferring intrinsically the SET sound, but one of finding the SET
sound different, hence better.

Your comment above regarding the M5 sounding better on voices but
distorting on dance CDs could have several reasons. Two immediately come
to mind:- you're playing the dance CDs louder than the gentler jazz
singers and/or the dance CDs are mastered very heavily compressed and
distorted to make them sound louder, and the M5s, being smaller, can't
cope with the excessive bass energy.

S.

Dave Plowman (News) November 22nd 06 01:08 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
In article ,
Serge Auckland wrote:
This is the best advice I've yet read on this NG. I should have written
it myself, but Don got there first. I would only add that the acoustics
of the room make a *huge* difference, and it will pay you to treat an
excessively lively room before making a final choice on 'speakers. I
have never found a normal domestic room to be excessively dead,- there's
normally enough diffusing materials around- so it's normally excess
brightness that needs treating.


Best advice going - but likely to be ignored. The fashion for bare wood
floors was the worst thing that could happen, sound wise.

The very best stereo I've ever heard was in a large near dead room - a
disused radio studio which was originally a chapel. Just about any half
decent speakers gave a good result and good ones incredible.

Unfortunately, this doesn't fit in with many 'Hi-Fi' enthusiast's
priorities. Decent carpet and thick curtains etc don't come cheap. Far
better to spend that money on a new gismo.

--
*A plateau is a high form of flattery*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Sharad November 23rd 06 12:49 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
Serge Auckland wrote:
Sharad wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:49:54 +0530, Sharad wrote:

Hi,

I listen to acoustic and vocal music. I love intimate close miked
vocals and a lot of detail in my music.
After listing to a few speakers, I have narrowed down to KEF iQ9
floor standers.
Now I need to select a matching amplifier. Any suggestions?

I have read some good reviews for the new Rotel RA-05 in W-HiFi.
Going by the specs, a combination of RA-06 + RB-06 sound exiting, if
I use them to bi-amp the KEF iQ9. I have read that Rotel matches
well with B&W, but I haven't auditioned the B&W yet.

The choice of speakers is not cast in stone yet, so suggestions are
welcome on that front too.

Thanks,
Sharad

Choose the amplifier on the basis of features - does it have the
inputs you need? Does it have enough power for your speakers? Does it
look right in the room? The amplifier has advanced in design so far
today that you will be unable to tell them apart by sound.

As for the speakers, they need to match your room rather than the
music. Your room may be bright or dull - reverberant or absorptive,
and that is what will eventually determine which speakers work best.
Nobody here will be able to tell you which (they are fooling
themselves if they try). You need to get friendly with a good dealer
who will let you "try before you buy" a few different models so you
can make up your mind.

Finally one piece of advice I always give. If one particular speaker
makes you go "WOW, that's great", send it back to the dealer. You
won't be able to live with it in the long term, because good speakers
don't do that - they are invisible in the acoustic sense.

d


Thanks for you advice Don.
I will surely try to hear the speakers in my listening room before
making the final decision.

I would like to mention that different speakers do sound totally
different to me, based on the music I am playing. For example, the
ones that play good beats and dance music (Polk, JBL, Jamo X series,
etc.) turn out to be poor performers when reproducing voice, or timber
of a violin.



This shows that 'speakers (all 'speakers) have different amounts of
colouration. The mark of a *really good* 'speaker is one that sounds
good on all sorts of music. Now of course, if you only play one type of
music, then choosing a 'speaker for that type alone can be a solution,
but one that I suggest, you may come to regret. Some 'speakers have
peaky treble which superficially passes for greater detail, others may
have a boomy bass, which passes for "rhythm and timing". Better is to
find a pair that work on all sorts. Male and female speech is a good
test - does it sound like a real 'speaker, can you hear the acoustics of
the room it was recorded in?- Then move on to music.


Thanks! I will surely try this.



It was an interesting discovery for me that EPOS M5 is better at
reproducing voices like Nora Jones, and Diana Krall, than EPOS 12.2 or
EPOS 22; though the M5 sound starts distorting as soon as you insert a
dance CD. I wonder if amps too have similar characteristics.

No, apart from facilities, these days amps only differ in the amount of
power they provide and the amount of current they can drive into low
impedances. This means that except for extreme loads and within their
power rating, they will all sound the same. I am, of course, referring
to modern Solid State amplifiers. Valved (tubed) amplifiers can have
much higher levels of distortion and limited power at frequency
extremes. (although there's no good reason for this, flat power delivery
with low distortion was solved in the late '50s and early '60s) Single
Ended Triodes are particularly bad in this respect. Their output
impedance is so high that their frequency response depends greatly on
the impedance characteristic of the loudspeaker they are driving. Those
that love SETs, (there are several on this NG) obviously like the
combination of high distortion and whatever frequency response results
from their choice of 'speakers. I suspect, however, that it's not a case
of preferring intrinsically the SET sound, but one of finding the SET
sound different, hence better.


I do hear a lot of vocal Jazz and Indian music, which is closer to Jazz in terms of sound. So if I
have to compromise, I would choose something that is good on the vocal/timber front. I can always
use the Definitive Supercube II from my home theater, to help out on the booming dance music front
when I need, which would not be too often :)


Your comment above regarding the M5 sounding better on voices but
distorting on dance CDs could have several reasons. Two immediately come
to mind:- you're playing the dance CDs louder than the gentler jazz
singers and/or the dance CDs are mastered very heavily compressed and
distorted to make them sound louder, and the M5s, being smaller, can't
cope with the excessive bass energy.

Probably both, and also an artificially boosted low end.


S.


Thanks Serge. Your advice is very useful, and focuses on exactly what I was looking for.
I will surely keep these points in mind.

Regards,
Sharad

Sharad November 23rd 06 01:03 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Sharad"

I would like to mention that different speakers do sound totally different
to me, based on the music I am playing.



** But YOU have not head them in your own room ( must be a well damped
one or all bets are off) linked to the exact same gear, matched for volume
level and with the ability to AB at will - have you ???




For example, the ones that play good beats and dance music (Polk, JBL,
Jamo X series, etc.) turn out to be poor performers when reproducing
voice, or timber of a violin.



** But YOU have not head them in your own room ( must be a well damped
one or all bets are off), linked to the exact same gear, matched for volume
level and with the ability to AB at will - have you ???



It was an interesting discovery for me that EPOS M5 is better at
reproducing voices like Nora Jones, and Diana Krall,



** How the HELL do YOU have any idea what the voice quality on the CDs you
auditioned ought to sound like - eh ??

Was Nora or Diana there ???

Had a credible reference speaker there to compare with at the same time -
ie Quad ESL 63s or 988s ??

Or even a decent pair of headphones ???????

Obviously not.




than EPOS 12.2 or EPOS 22; though the M5 sound starts distorting as soon
as you insert a dance CD. I wonder if amps too have similar
characteristics.



** Keep on wondering.

Asinine ****heads like YOU are totally incorrigible.

The criminal scum that some jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men " will
just EAT YOU ALIVE and rob you blind.

Buuuuuuurrrrrrrpppppp......







...... Phil




Thanks Phil.
I appreciate the points you are making :)
BTW, I will pray for you. You might be an unhappy person with all the negative energy baggage that
you carry. Please smile for a few minutes on my request. Thanks.

Regards,
Sharad

Phil Allison November 23rd 06 01:38 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 

"****head"

I would like to mention that different speakers do sound totally
different to me, based on the music I am playing.



** But YOU have not head them in your own room ( must be a well
damped one or all bets are off) linked to the exact same gear, matched
for volume level and with the ability to AB at will - have you ???




For example, the ones that play good beats and dance music (Polk, JBL,
Jamo X series, etc.) turn out to be poor performers when reproducing
voice, or timber of a violin.



** But YOU have not head them in your own room ( must be a well
damped one or all bets are off), linked to the exact same gear, matched
for volume level and with the ability to AB at will - have you ???



It was an interesting discovery for me that EPOS M5 is better at
reproducing voices like Nora Jones, and Diana Krall,



** How the HELL do YOU have any idea what the voice quality on the CDs
you auditioned ought to sound like - eh ??

Was Nora or Diana there ???

Had a credible reference speaker there to compare with at the same
ime - ie Quad ESL 63s or 988s ??

Or even a decent pair of headphones ???????

Obviously not.




than EPOS 12.2 or EPOS 22; though the M5 sound starts distorting as soon
as you insert a dance CD. I wonder if amps too have similar
characteristics.



** Keep on wondering.

Asinine ****heads like YOU are totally incorrigible.

The criminal scum that some jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men "
will just EAT YOU ALIVE and rob you blind.

Buuuuuuurrrrrrrpppppp......




Thanks Phil.



** Go drop dead - you smug pile of brown ****.




.......... Phil



Phil Allison November 23rd 06 01:42 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 

"****head"


Thanks Serge. Your advice is very useful, and focuses on exactly what I
was looking for.



** Go choke on your next curry - you smug pile of brown ****.


I will surely keep these points in mind.



** What mind is that ??

Audiophool scumbags like YOU don't have one.

Asinine ****heads like YOU are totally incorrigible.

The criminal scum that some jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men " will
just EAT YOU ALIVE and rob you blind.

Buuuuuuurrrrrrrpppppp......


Makes me fell warm all over.






....... Phil





tim November 23rd 06 02:26 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 

Phil Allison wrote:

"****head"


Thanks Serge. Your advice is very useful, and focuses on exactly what I
was looking for.



** Go choke on your next curry - you smug pile of brown ****.


I will surely keep these points in mind.



** What mind is that ??

Audiophool scumbags like YOU don't have one.

Asinine ****heads like YOU are totally incorrigible.

The criminal scum that some jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men " will
just EAT YOU ALIVE and rob you blind.

Buuuuuuurrrrrrrpppppp......


Makes me fell warm all over.






...... Phil


you know for three answers there were some good questions and answers
on here, then old **** face comes in with his usual racist ********.

you must be the biggest **** anywhere on the internet, not surprising
you spend so much time here - you can't have any friends.


Sharad November 24th 06 07:48 AM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
Tim wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:

"****head"


Thanks Serge. Your advice is very useful, and focuses on exactly what I
was looking for.


** Go choke on your next curry - you smug pile of brown ****.


I will surely keep these points in mind.


** What mind is that ??

Audiophool scumbags like YOU don't have one.

Asinine ****heads like YOU are totally incorrigible.

The criminal scum that some jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men " will
just EAT YOU ALIVE and rob you blind.

Buuuuuuurrrrrrrpppppp......


Makes me fell warm all over.






...... Phil


you know for three answers there were some good questions and answers
on here, then old **** face comes in with his usual racist ********.

you must be the biggest **** anywhere on the internet, not surprising
you spend so much time here - you can't have any friends.


Hi Phil,

I hope you are feeling a bit better today.
Most of the things you have said in this mail are of no concern to the people on this news group,
though some of your comments yesterday did reflect that you are interested in music too, and are not
spamming just for the heck of it.

Please understand that what you say just reflects on who you are, not who you are talking about.
Blowing your head off does not change the world, nothing is ever achieved by anger and frustration.
End of the day, hijacking of an email thread is no big deal for anyone, but in your case it is your
life that is affected.
If you had a bad experience in the past which makes you feel so bitter, then all of us empathize
with you. Listen to some good soothing music (from anywhere in the world). You can also consider
professional therapy if things are not really under your control. I would personally not be able to
help you any further.

Please let the people on this news group discuss music and audio, because that is all they care
about while on this news group.

Thanks,
Sharad

Keith G November 24th 06 10:16 AM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 

"Sharad" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:

"****head"


Thanks Serge. Your advice is very useful, and focuses on exactly what I
was looking for.

** Go choke on your next curry - you smug pile of brown ****.


I will surely keep these points in mind.

** What mind is that ??

Audiophool scumbags like YOU don't have one.

Asinine ****heads like YOU are totally incorrigible.

The criminal scum that some jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men "
will
just EAT YOU ALIVE and rob you blind.

Buuuuuuurrrrrrrpppppp......


Makes me fell warm all over.






...... Phil


you know for three answers there were some good questions and answers
on here, then old **** face comes in with his usual racist ********.

you must be the biggest **** anywhere on the internet, not surprising
you spend so much time here - you can't have any friends.


Hi Phil,

I hope you are feeling a bit better today.
Most of the things you have said in this mail are of no concern to the
people on this news group, though some of your comments yesterday did
reflect that you are interested in music too, and are not spamming just
for the heck of it.

Please understand that what you say just reflects on who you are, not who
you are talking about.
Blowing your head off does not change the world, nothing is ever achieved
by anger and frustration. End of the day, hijacking of an email thread is
no big deal for anyone, but in your case it is your life that is affected.
If you had a bad experience in the past which makes you feel so bitter,
then all of us empathize with you. Listen to some good soothing music
(from anywhere in the world). You can also consider professional therapy
if things are not really under your control. I would personally not be
able to help you any further.

Please let the people on this news group discuss music and audio, because
that is all they care about while on this news group.

Thanks,
Sharad





Uh oh, looks like Al Jazeerah 'English' has found its way into ukra.......

(That'll be Plowie out of a job when they start telling us what to think and
do....!! ;-)





Phil Allison November 24th 06 10:50 AM

Sharad = Shithead
 

"Sharad" = "****head" = WOG DRONGO TROLL



** Go choke to death on your next curry - you know nothing pile of brown
****.

AUDIOPHOOL ****heads like YOU are a totally incorrigible public menace
!!

The criminal scum that some here jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men "
will just EAT YOU ALIVE and ROB YOU BLIND.


Makes me fell warm all over YOU will be their next a victim.





....... Phil






Sharad November 24th 06 12:14 PM

Sharad = Shithead
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Sharad" = "****head" = WOG DRONGO TROLL



** Go choke to death on your next curry - you know nothing pile of brown
****.

AUDIOPHOOL ****heads like YOU are a totally incorrigible public menace
!!

The criminal scum that some here jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men "
will just EAT YOU ALIVE and ROB YOU BLIND.


Makes me fell warm all over YOU will be their next a victim.





...... Phil


Hi Phil,

Thanks for thinking about me everyday, and worrying about me being cheated by the hi-fi sales men!
Unfortunately you are still too worked up. You can't even come up with new abuses :) It is so boring
to see the same stuff repeated in all your mails (just kidding, don't get worked up about that now:).

The audio salesmen have been really nice. None of them forced me to buy anything, but they still
allowed me sit there for hours listening to music. So don't worry too much about me. I hope you
would start feeling normal soon. Take care.

Regards,
Sharad

Dave Plowman (News) November 24th 06 12:39 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
(That'll be Plowie out of a job when they start telling us what to think
and do....!! ;-)


In your case just thinking would be an improvement.

--
*Elephants are the only mammals that can't jump *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Keith G November 24th 06 01:15 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
(That'll be Plowie out of a job when they start telling us what to think
and do....!! ;-)


In your case just thinking would be an improvement.

--
*Elephants are the only mammals that can't jump *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.




:-)

Hmm - 2 hours 23 response time?

Buck your ideas up, Plowie - I told you before, already....

(It's like chucking raisins out for the blackbirds on the back step... :-)





Keith G November 24th 06 01:23 PM

Sharad = Shithead
 

"Sharad" wrote in message
...
Phil Allison wrote:
"Sharad" = "****head" = WOG DRONGO TROLL



** Go choke to death on your next curry - you know nothing pile of
brown ****.

AUDIOPHOOL ****heads like YOU are a totally incorrigible public
menace !!

The criminal scum that some here jokingly refer to as " hi-fi sales men "
will just EAT YOU ALIVE and ROB YOU BLIND.


Makes me fell warm all over YOU will be their next a victim.





...... Phil


Hi Phil,

Thanks for thinking about me everyday, and worrying about me being cheated
by the hi-fi sales men!
Unfortunately you are still too worked up. You can't even come up with new
abuses :) It is so boring to see the same stuff repeated in all your mails
(just kidding, don't get worked up about that now:).

The audio salesmen have been really nice. None of them forced me to buy
anything, but they still allowed me sit there for hours listening to
music. So don't worry too much about me. I hope you would start feeling
normal soon. Take care.

Regards,
Sharad




Thanks for yet another opportunity to read all that *raving loony* crap from
that clown Allinson....

Hint: Even people with half a brain (like Plowie) have got him KF'd....!

;-)

(Time set at 14:23.......)






Jack November 24th 06 02:03 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 
Sharad wrote:
Hi,

I listen to acoustic and vocal music. I love intimate close miked vocals
and a lot of detail in my music.
After listing to a few speakers, I have narrowed down to KEF iQ9 floor
standers.
Now I need to select a matching amplifier. Any suggestions?

I have read some good reviews for the new Rotel RA-05 in W-HiFi. Going
by the specs, a combination of RA-06 + RB-06 sound exiting, if I use
them to bi-amp the KEF iQ9. I have read that Rotel matches well with
B&W, but I haven't auditioned the B&W yet.


Listen to Marantz's PM7001KI as well.

What Hi-Fi recently (in the last 5 months) did a
group test with one of those Rotel amps, one from
Cambridge Audio and the PM7001.

The KI differs from the standard PM7001 with the
following upgraded components :

• Current Feedback PHONO Equalizer

A high-speed current feedback circuit similar to
the pre-amplifier
and main-amplifier circuits was adopted in the PHONO
equalizer for the MM cartridge.

• Newly Developed Toroidal Transformer

A newly developed Toroidal power transformer,
which produces
less vibration and magnetic leakage flux than
previously, has
been incorporated. The materials and manufacturing
process
of the ring-shaped core are strictly controlled to
reduce
vibration, while the short-ring attached to the
perimeter of the
transformer reduce magnetic leakage flux.

• High Performance Volume

The volume controller, which is often considered
to be the core
function of an amplifier, has been upgraded to an
even more
reliable type of controller.

• Large Capacitance Block Capacitor

A large capacity 18000µF block capacitor is
incorporated into
the main-amplifier power supply circuit.

• Film capacitors and electrolical capacitors etc.
The capacitors used in high end models like the
PM-11S1 are
incorporated into the PM7001 amplifier.

• Copper-coated Chassis

derek brown November 28th 06 01:23 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 

"Sharad" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I listen to acoustic and vocal music. I love intimate close miked vocals
and a lot of detail in my music.
After listing to a few speakers, I have narrowed down to KEF iQ9 floor
standers.
Now I need to select a matching amplifier. Any suggestions?

I have read some good reviews for the new Rotel RA-05 in W-HiFi. Going by
the specs, a combination of RA-06 + RB-06 sound exiting, if I use them to
bi-amp the KEF iQ9. I have read that Rotel matches well with B&W, but I
haven't auditioned the B&W yet.

The choice of speakers is not cast in stone yet, so suggestions are
welcome on that front too.

Thanks, Sharad


I have the new Rotel RA-06 coupled with the Cambridge Azur 640C V2 CD
player and B&W DM601 S3 speakers and I am delighted with the sound. I do not
profess to be an audiophile but I like music.
Dex



derek brown November 28th 06 01:35 PM

Amp for KEF iQ9
 

"derek brown" wrote in message
...

"Sharad" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I listen to acoustic and vocal music. I love intimate close miked vocals
and a lot of detail in my music.
After listing to a few speakers, I have narrowed down to KEF iQ9 floor
standers.
Now I need to select a matching amplifier. Any suggestions?

I have read some good reviews for the new Rotel RA-05 in W-HiFi. Going by
the specs, a combination of RA-06 + RB-06 sound exiting, if I use them to
bi-amp the KEF iQ9. I have read that Rotel matches well with B&W, but I
haven't auditioned the B&W yet.

The choice of speakers is not cast in stone yet, so suggestions are
welcome on that front too.

Thanks, Sharad


I have the new Rotel RA-06 coupled with the Cambridge Azur 640C V2 CD
player and B&W DM601 S3 speakers and I am delighted with the sound. I do
not profess to be an audiophile but I like music.
Dex

Sorry change that to Rotel RA-05, typing without thinking again
Dex




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