Mark Ison wrote:
Thanks for your input, any other thoughts from anyone??

Cheap wireless is not good, and good wireless is not cheap. If you have
only a few feet to go, keep the cable.
--scott
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In rec.audio.pro Mark wrote:

Should I spend the extra a get the True Diversity, even though most of the
time I am going to only be a few meters away from the receive, and never
more than 30ish if I go into the crowd.

Yes the extra is worth it. Even if you are close there is always
the problem of radio standing waves in the room that cause signal
dropout. The higher frequencies are worse for this. And the farther
you get away the worse the problem can get as signal levels
drop. Even true diversity can have problems.

Should I stick to the policy of don't use radio unless you really have to.

Yes. But then what do you mean by "have to". If you want to go
into the crowd, then I guess you "have to".

Benj
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In rec.audio.pro Mark wrote:

Should I spend the extra a get the True Diversity, even though most of the
time I am going to only be a few meters away from the receive, and never
more than 30ish if I go into the crowd.

Yes the extra is worth it. Even if you are close there is always
the problem of radio standing waves in the room that cause signal
dropout. The higher frequencies are worse for this. And the farther
you get away the worse the problem can get as signal levels
drop. Even true diversity can have problems.

Should I stick to the policy of don't use radio unless you really have to.

Yes. But then what do you mean by "have to". If you want to go
into the crowd, then I guess you "have to".

Benj
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Due to SPAM innundation above address is turned off!

In article , writes
In rec.audio.pro Mark wrote:

Should I spend the extra a get the True Diversity, even though most of the
time I am going to only be a few meters away from the receive, and never
more than 30ish if I go into the crowd.

Yes the extra is worth it. Even if you are close there is always
the problem of radio standing waves in the room that cause signal
dropout. The higher frequencies are worse for this. And the farther
you get away the worse the problem can get as signal levels
drop. Even true diversity can have problems.

Should I stick to the policy of don't use radio unless you really have to.

Yes. But then what do you mean by "have to". If you want to go
into the crowd, then I guess you "have to".

Benj

Well FWIW we used to run a mobile disco back in the 70's using a couple
of Tannoy York enclosures with 15" monitor gold's therein driven by
Quad 50E's and we were using a home brewed radio mic, sorta belt pack
thing then on 175 MHz, and never had any problems with it!!..
--
Tony Sayer

In article , writes
In rec.audio.pro Mark wrote:

Should I spend the extra a get the True Diversity, even though most of the
time I am going to only be a few meters away from the receive, and never
more than 30ish if I go into the crowd.

Yes the extra is worth it. Even if you are close there is always
the problem of radio standing waves in the room that cause signal
dropout. The higher frequencies are worse for this. And the farther
you get away the worse the problem can get as signal levels
drop. Even true diversity can have problems.

Should I stick to the policy of don't use radio unless you really have to.

Yes. But then what do you mean by "have to". If you want to go
into the crowd, then I guess you "have to".

Benj

Well FWIW we used to run a mobile disco back in the 70's using a couple
of Tannoy York enclosures with 15" monitor gold's therein driven by
Quad 50E's and we were using a home brewed radio mic, sorta belt pack
thing then on 175 MHz, and never had any problems with it!!..
--
Tony Sayer

I have been looking at the Samson XLR snap. Although I have a couple of
concerns.

Should I spend the extra a get the True Diversity, even though most of the
time I am going to only be a few meters away from the receive, and never
more than 30ish if I go into the crowd.


Buy cheap, or buy really expensive. The top radio systems will work
anywhere (mostly:-). Really cheap ones will often be fine - more than
good enough for DJ speech. Mid-priced ones will mostly have the same
problems as cheap ones. They'll maybe have a better microphone
section. For your application, who cares?

IMO, Diversity is of marginal if any use when the two aerials are
mounted a few inches apart on the receiver box. A professional system
will have the aerials remotely mounted each side of the stage, which
IS useful.

Should I stick to the policy of don't use radio unless you really have to.

Use it if you feel it adds to your performance. Have a cable mic also
available.

I have also looked at the AKG SO40 but AKG seem to have a problem with
supply in the UK, ie have don't currently have a distributor.

So....
Is True Diversity worth the extra money, for me?
Should I get the Samson or the AKG?
Or should I simply stick to good old XLR cable?

I have been looking at the Samson XLR snap. Although I have a couple of
concerns.

Should I spend the extra a get the True Diversity, even though most of the
time I am going to only be a few meters away from the receive, and never
more than 30ish if I go into the crowd.


Buy cheap, or buy really expensive. The top radio systems will work
anywhere (mostly:-). Really cheap ones will often be fine - more than
good enough for DJ speech. Mid-priced ones will mostly have the same
problems as cheap ones. They'll maybe have a better microphone
section. For your application, who cares?

IMO, Diversity is of marginal if any use when the two aerials are
mounted a few inches apart on the receiver box. A professional system
will have the aerials remotely mounted each side of the stage, which
IS useful.

Should I stick to the policy of don't use radio unless you really have to.

Use it if you feel it adds to your performance. Have a cable mic also
available.

I have also looked at the AKG SO40 but AKG seem to have a problem with
supply in the UK, ie have don't currently have a distributor.

So....
Is True Diversity worth the extra money, for me?
Should I get the Samson or the AKG?
Or should I simply stick to good old XLR cable?

tony sayer wrote:

Well FWIW we used to run a mobile disco back in the 70's using a couple
of Tannoy York enclosures with 15" monitor gold's therein driven by
Quad 50E's and we were using a home brewed radio mic, sorta belt pack
thing then on 175 MHz, and never had any problems with it!!..

Back in the seventies, the general RF level was a lot lower. Remember
back when you could actually turn on an AM radio and get decent reception?

At least in the US, the proliferation of cheap consumer electronics has
really resulted in incredible amounts of hash on the VHF bands and below.

Hell, I remember when those 40 MHz VHF-LO radio mikes worked great! I
could not imagine using one of those in the RF horror of any metropolitan
area today.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

tony sayer wrote:

Well FWIW we used to run a mobile disco back in the 70's using a couple
of Tannoy York enclosures with 15" monitor gold's therein driven by
Quad 50E's and we were using a home brewed radio mic, sorta belt pack
thing then on 175 MHz, and never had any problems with it!!..

Back in the seventies, the general RF level was a lot lower. Remember
back when you could actually turn on an AM radio and get decent reception?

At least in the US, the proliferation of cheap consumer electronics has
really resulted in incredible amounts of hash on the VHF bands and below.

Hell, I remember when those 40 MHz VHF-LO radio mikes worked great! I
could not imagine using one of those in the RF horror of any metropolitan
area today.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

In article ,
Laurence Payne wrote:
IMO, Diversity is of marginal if any use when the two aerials are
mounted a few inches apart on the receiver box. A professional system
will have the aerials remotely mounted each side of the stage, which
IS useful.

Not so - at UHF frequencies a few inches can make all the difference as in
so much else. ;-) You can see this effect even at VHF frequencies by
moving a portable radio around while listening to a weak signal - a small
movement will often make a huge difference.

You can increase the nominally useful range sometimes by spacing the
aerials apart some way, but I'd only use this where you've got guaranteed
line of sight.

The other snag with extending aerials away from the receiver is loss down
the cable which is considerable at UHF unless you use extremely expensive
and bulky cable. TV aerial cable etc is near useless.

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