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[email protected] September 19th 07 01:30 PM

Peter
 
On Sep 18, 3:02 pm, Jiri Placek wrote:
Peter Wieck is a good man and one of the nicest and decent human
beings I have met in the radio hobby community.


Assuming you have not been bought, or are not lying for another
reason, which assumption I gladly make, then Peter Wieck must be
schizophrenic because all we've seen is that he is a stalker, a thief
and a liar, a fascist bully and a blackmailer.

I place a post from him and my response below. See if you still think
the the same after you read it.

Peter Wieck has been nicknamed Worthless not only because he is useles
and ignorant, but because he is immoral and has no intrinsic standard.

One can argue about technical issues but such discussion should never
degrade to personal assaults.


Absolutely. But why should Peter Wieck be allowed to behave
differently from the standard you postulate. Worthless Wiecky deals
almost entirely in personal assaults, as is clear from his letter
below, as is clear from two years of the archives of RAT.

This is for the record and intended only for those of us who strive to
make this NG an enjoyable, enlightening, and educational experience.


Mr Jute, the victim of Worthless Wiecky's stalking, character
assassination and abuse, can look after himself well enough. Mostly
I'm just a humble lurker. But I too would like my newsgroup, RAT, to
be free of Worthless Wiecky's venom.

It is not intended for the other set of posters who crash this NG from
time to time with their venom. I do not argue with them.


Probably wise. There is no argument you can make against truths so
manifest as those below, from the spiteful mouth of Worthless Wiecky
himself.

Jiri Placek
Boyertown, PA


It is good that we can discuss these things levelly and without
personal abuse.

Regards,

Gray Glasser

-----------------

Offered for the record, as you say:

Peter Wieck wrote:

On Sep 18, 12:28 pm, wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote:

It's amazing that the Kutztown organizers rent space to a man with the
reputation of Peter Wieck of Wyncote, PA. He is a notorious hoarder
and profiteer, and a netflamer and netstalker of anyone who exposes
him. His immorality, his stealing, his stalking and his lying has
earned him the contemptuous nickname "Worthless Wiecky" on the Usenet.
Don't the Kutztown organizers know this?


Fiultra


The difficulty with the Kutzdown Radio Meet is finding out who is in
charge.

The reputable and respectable Delaware Valley Historic Radio Club
(DVHRC) denies that it has any influence over who can be rented space.
According to Mike Koste, "The DVHRC has no financial interest or
control of facility, including the renting and assignment of vendor
spaces. The club merely acts as hosts."

The Radio Meet is held at Renninger's Antique and Farmer's Market in
Kutztown, PA. Renninger's are in the business of renting stalls to
fill their facility. They have neither the ability nor the desire to
weed out bad apples. As long as the stallholder doesn't defecate on
the floor, Renninger's don't care what sort of thief and scum he is.
Renninger's will rent even Peter Wieck a stall, regardless.

So nobody is responsibilie for keeping out bad apples. It is up to
concerned individuals like you to warn against undesirables like Peter
Wieck.

Regards,

Gray Glasser


Well, now. And Andre has never been "caught in a lie"... how about the
lie that Gray Glasser is a separate entity rather than merely yet
another schizoid manifestation of a diseased mind?


If you believe it, you should prove it, Worthless. You've tried before
and failed.

Andre, I use your "first" name (Christian, manifestly, it is not)


No gentleman would force familiarity on anyone who considers him scum.
The Boss has several times publiclty described you as scum, Worthless,
so why do you persist in your foul manners?

as a
simple indication - to you - that you are a childish git whining over
being challenged


The notion that a semiliterate janitor like you can challenge The Boss
is laughable. In any event, all you've done for a couple of years is
attempted character assassination which Mr Jute contemptuously
ignored.

in your own sandbox.


You came to RAT with the single intention of stalking The Boss, for
the sole and entirely discreditable reason that, in your own words, it
amuses you. You started abusing Mr Jute, without any provocation
whatsoever, even as he welcomed you to RAT.

And
when so-challenged choose to crap all over every other sandbox in
sight.


You defecated on the carpet in the house where The Boss practices his
hobby. So what's your beef when The Boss produces one of his internet
puppet shows with you as the star exhibit? Why should there be one
rule for scum like you and another for Mr Jute?

So, you do not deserve even the respect one would use
addressing a child. To others I generally refer to you as Mr. Jute, so
they better understand the actual lack of respect.


If you believe The Boss cares what you think, you're delusional as
well as very, very stupid. I heard him say once, in a lecture on
morality, something like, "Respect is only of value between free
peers. When it is offered or withheld as a form of blackmail, it is
worthless. The blackmailer does not have, cannot get, and will never
be given any respect." You're clearly a blackmailer, Worthless.

You abused Mr Jute without provocation for years, then offered to
cease if he would "stop prosetylizing". That is clearly an attempt by
blackmail to control what he says and how. I imagine The Boss regards
that, besides blackmail, as an assault on free speech.

Now, it was you that once wrote "want another go at it?" The short
answer is not really.


The Boss is a fair man. If you want to run, he'll let you run. He let
you run before, when he crisply and quickly made a public fool of you
by turning you into a golem of decayed pig offal stuffed into a cow's
bladder, and kicked you around like a football. He generously did not
pursue you after you ran. You stupidly returned to abuse him further.

But you do tend to fulminate and blather at
great and extreme length when prodded... clearly you haven't the
character to do anything but that.


You should find out who Andre Jute is, Worthless, and before much
longer, for the sake of your family. It is only you who think you're
messing with some limp intellectual with glasses.

Get a life, or your meds will fail. At this point I expect your stress
level to be well in the red-zone...


We note your lipsmacking relish over the prospect of doing someone
else harm. It is quite clear that you wish Mr Jute dead because he is
so patently superior to you in every respect.

given that you are over 60,
overweight and undertall,


The stalker always thinks he knows more about his victim than the
victim does.

that is not a good combination for the long
term.


Once more you wish The Boss dead. For what? For pointing out, and
proving, that you're a stalker, a thief and a liar? For being
charismatic and talented when you're dull and, well, dull? You're over
the top, Worthless.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


With sincere contempt for a reckless fool,

Gray Glasser


Arny Krueger September 19th 07 02:12 PM

Peter
 
wrote in message
oups.com
On Sep 18, 3:02 pm, Jiri Placek
wrote:
Peter Wieck is a good man and one of the nicest and
decent human beings I have met in the radio hobby
community.


Assuming you have not been bought, or are not lying for
another reason, which assumption I gladly make, then
Peter Wieck must be schizophrenic because all we've seen
is that he is a stalker, a thief and a liar, a fascist
bully and a blackmailer.


Oh, come on!

What sort of paranoid are you, anyway Mr. Glasser?

Peter is a generally knowlegeable guy who likes to mess around with old
audio gear. What is wrong with that?

He does have this thing about phonies, which puts him head to head with
weirdos like Andre Jute from time to time. So Glasser, why are you butting
into Andre's latest public dust-up?



George M. Middius September 19th 07 02:28 PM

Peter
 


The Krooborg is feeling threatened.

What sort of paranoid are you, anyway Mr. Glasser?


Calm down, Arnii. I'm sure he was just kidding around. Your crown is
quite safe.




Eiron September 19th 07 02:57 PM

Peter
 
Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com
On Sep 18, 3:02 pm, Jiri Placek
wrote:
Peter Wieck is a good man and one of the nicest and
decent human beings I have met in the radio hobby
community.

Assuming you have not been bought, or are not lying for
another reason, which assumption I gladly make, then
Peter Wieck must be schizophrenic because all we've seen
is that he is a stalker, a thief and a liar, a fascist
bully and a blackmailer.


Oh, come on!

What sort of paranoid are you, anyway Mr. Glasser?


Puppets don't suffer from mental illnesses.
You should ask the hand, not the sock.

--
Eiron.

Arny Krueger September 19th 07 04:47 PM

Peter
 
"Eiron" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com
On Sep 18, 3:02 pm, Jiri Placek
wrote:
Peter Wieck is a good man and one of the nicest and
decent human beings I have met in the radio hobby
community.
Assuming you have not been bought, or are not lying for
another reason, which assumption I gladly make, then
Peter Wieck must be schizophrenic because all we've seen
is that he is a stalker, a thief and a liar, a fascist
bully and a blackmailer.


Oh, come on!

What sort of paranoid are you, anyway Mr. Glasser?


Puppets don't suffer from mental illnesses.


You should ask the hand, not the sock.


Point well taken!



Uncle Peter September 19th 07 07:12 PM

Peter
 

wrote in message :
Gray Glasser


Wow. More sock puppets than Marley had links
in his chain. Another plonk.



George M. Middius September 19th 07 07:56 PM

Peter
 


Uncle Peter (who?) said:

More sock puppets than Marley had links in his chain.


Marley's chain was imaginary, you know. Care to recast your metaphor?




Stephanie Weil September 19th 07 08:47 PM

Peter
 
On Sep 19, 3:56 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:

Marley's chain was imaginary


So are you.



[email protected] September 19th 07 09:30 PM

Peter
 
On Sep 19, 7:12 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
wrote in message

On Sep 18, 3:02 pm, Jiri Placek
wrote:
Peter Wieck is a good man and one of the nicest and
decent human beings I have met in the radio hobby
community.


Assuming you have not been bought, or are not lying for
another reason, which assumption I gladly make, then
Peter Wieck must be schizophrenic because all we've seen
is that he is a stalker, a thief and a liar, a fascist
bully and a blackmailer.


Oh, come on!

What sort of paranoid are you, anyway Mr. Glasser?


There are other current threads about the dishonesty of Peter Wieck in
which those who defend him start by telling us he is a good guy
because he gives them something free of charge every Monday.

Tell me that you do not consider that cause for suspicion that anyone
who supports Peter Wieck is corrupt, and I will call you either
gullible or a liar, depending on the circumstances.

Peter is a generally knowlegeable guy who likes to mess around with old
audio gear. What is wrong with that?


Nothing. Except that Worthless Wiecky is not on RAT spreading
knowledge and light, but engaged in a concerted campaign of
denigration of Andre Jute. Peter Wieck has told us he conducts his
campaign of character assassination simply to amuse himself.

He does have this thing about phonies, which puts him head to head with
weirdos like Andre Jute from time to time.


I see, so you think Worthless Wiecky should be allowed to hound Mr
Jute just because The Boss doesn't conform to the lowest common
denominator of Wieck's perverted concept of Americanism? And for no
better reason than that it amuses Worthless Wiecky to hound someone?
In that case, The Boss should be allowed to ride Worthless Wiecky into
the ground and destroy him as an entertainment, a sort of newsgroup
bloodsport. If we follow your line of argument to its logical
conclusion, Mr Krueger, any other conclusion would hypocritical.

So Glasser, why are you butting
into Andre's latest public dust-up?


Merely a sense of fairness. The facts are in the rest of my OP which
you cut:

On Sep 18, 3:02 pm, Jiri Placek wrote:
Peter Wieck is a good man and one of the nicest and decent human
beings I have met in the radio hobby community.


Assuming you have not been bought, or are not lying for another
reason, which assumption I gladly make, then Peter Wieck must be
schizophrenic because all we've seen is that he is a stalker, a thief
and a liar, a fascist bully and a blackmailer.

I place a post from him and my response below. See if you still think
the the same after you read it.

Peter Wieck has been nicknamed Worthless not only because he is
useless and ignorant, but because he is immoral and has no intrinsic
standard.

One can argue about technical issues but such discussion should never
degrade to personal assaults.


Absolutely. But why should Peter Wieck be allowed to behave
differently from the standard you postulate. Worthless Wiecky deals
almost entirely in personal assaults, as is clear from his letter
below, as is clear from two years of the archives of RAT.

This is for the record and intended only for those of us who strive to
make this NG an enjoyable, enlightening, and educational experience.


Mr Jute, the victim of Worthless Wiecky's stalking, character
assassination and abuse, can look after himself well enough. Mostly
I'm just a humble lurker. But I too would like my newsgroup, RAT, to
be free of Worthless Wiecky's venom.

It is not intended for the other set of posters who crash this NG from
time to time with their venom. I do not argue with them.


Probably wise. There is no argument you can make against truths so
manifest as those below, from the spiteful mouth of Worthless Wiecky
himself.

Jiri Placek
Boyertown, PA


It is good that we can discuss these things levelly and without
personal abuse.

Regards,

Gray Glasser

-----------------

Offered for the record, as you say:

Peter Wieck wrote:

On Sep 18, 12:28 pm, wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote:

It's amazing that the Kutztown organizers rent space to a man with the
reputation of Peter Wieck of Wyncote, PA. He is a notorious hoarder
and profiteer, and a netflamer and netstalker of anyone who exposes
him. His immorality, his stealing, his stalking and his lying has
earned him the contemptuous nickname "Worthless Wiecky" on the Usenet.
Don't the Kutztown organizers know this?


Fiultra


The difficulty with the Kutzdown Radio Meet is finding out who is in
charge.

The reputable and respectable Delaware Valley Historic Radio Club
(DVHRC) denies that it has any influence over who can be rented space.
According to Mike Koste, "The DVHRC has no financial interest or
control of facility, including the renting and assignment of vendor
spaces. The club merely acts as hosts."

The Radio Meet is held at Renninger's Antique and Farmer's Market in
Kutztown, PA. Renninger's are in the business of renting stalls to
fill their facility. They have neither the ability nor the desire to
weed out bad apples. As long as the stallholder doesn't defecate on
the floor, Renninger's don't care what sort of thief and scum he is.
Renninger's will rent even Peter Wieck a stall, regardless.

So nobody is responsibilie for keeping out bad apples. It is up to
concerned individuals like you to warn against undesirables like Peter
Wieck.

Regards,

Gray Glasser


Well, now. And Andre has never been "caught in a lie"... how about the
lie that Gray Glasser is a separate entity rather than merely yet
another schizoid manifestation of a diseased mind?


If you believe it, you should prove it, Worthless. You've tried before
and failed.

Andre, I use your "first" name (Christian, manifestly, it is not)


No gentleman would force familiarity on anyone who considers him scum.
The Boss has several times publiclty described you as scum, Worthless,
so why do you persist in your foul manners?

as a
simple indication - to you - that you are a childish git whining over
being challenged


The notion that a semiliterate janitor like you can challenge The Boss
is laughable. In any event, all you've done for a couple of years is
attempted character assassination which Mr Jute contemptuously
ignored.

in your own sandbox.


You came to RAT with the single intention of stalking The Boss, for
the sole and entirely discreditable reason that, in your own words, it
amuses you. You started abusing Mr Jute, without any provocation
whatsoever, even as he welcomed you to RAT.

And
when so-challenged choose to crap all over every other sandbox in
sight.


You defecated on the carpet in the house where The Boss practices his
hobby. So what's your beef when The Boss produces one of his internet
puppet shows with you as the star exhibit? Why should there be one
rule for scum like you and another for Mr Jute?

So, you do not deserve even the respect one would use
addressing a child. To others I generally refer to you as Mr. Jute, so
they better understand the actual lack of respect.


If you believe The Boss cares what you think, you're delusional as
well as very, very stupid. I heard him say once, in a lecture on
morality, something like, "Respect is only of value between free
peers. When it is offered or withheld as a form of blackmail, it is
worthless. The blackmailer does not have, cannot get, and will never
be given any respect." You're clearly a blackmailer, Worthless.

You abused Mr Jute without provocation for years, then offered to
cease if he would "stop prosetylizing". That is clearly an attempt by
blackmail to control what he says and how. I imagine The Boss regards
that, besides blackmail, as an assault on free speech.

Now, it was you that once wrote "want another go at it?" The short
answer is not really.


The Boss is a fair man. If you want to run, he'll let you run. He let
you run before, when he crisply and quickly made a public fool of you
by turning you into a golem of decayed pig offal stuffed into a cow's
bladder, and kicked you around like a football. He generously did not
pursue you after you ran. You stupidly returned to abuse him further.

But you do tend to fulminate and blather at
great and extreme length when prodded... clearly you haven't the
character to do anything but that.


You should find out who Andre Jute is, Worthless, and before much
longer, for the sake of your family. It is only you who think you're
messing with some limp intellectual with glasses.

Get a life, or your meds will fail. At this point I expect your stress
level to be well in the red-zone...


We note your lipsmacking relish over the prospect of doing someone
else harm. It is quite clear that you wish Mr Jute dead because he is
so patently superior to you in every respect.

given that you are over 60,
overweight and undertall,


The stalker always thinks he knows more about his victim than the
victim does.

that is not a good combination for the long
term.


Once more you wish The Boss dead. For what? For pointing out, and
proving, that you're a stalker, a thief and a liar? For being
charismatic and talented when you're dull and, well, dull? You're over
the top, Worthless.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


With sincere contempt for a reckless fool,

Gray Glasser



George M. Middius September 19th 07 10:13 PM

Peter
 


Stephanie Weil said:

Marley's chain was imaginary


So are you.


Then why is Mookie so terrified of me?





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