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Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
Hi:
I am Andre Jute and you think you have heard more from me than you want in the last fortnight. It isn't true. I sent only three messages in total to any conference outside my usual tube hi-fi hobby group of RAT/UKRA/RAO. The newsgroups who received the flood of forged posts that I can find are rec.audio.marketplace, rec.antiques.radio+phono, rec.audio.tech, alt.collecting.juke-boxes, and for some bizarre reason misc.writing (where experienced inhabitants would instantly know I didn't write those messages sent under my forged signature). We now know who in the last fortnight sent perhaps as many as hundred abusive messages in my name to these groups. He has made the mistake of sending a message in my name to RAT, then forgetting that it is supposed to be from me, and signing it with his own name (1). The forger's name is Henry Pasternack. Pasternack has a history of stalking me going back almost ten years. During that that time he has told innumerable lies about me "in my zeal to flame Andre" (2), and stolen my copyright materials many times (3). He has forged my name to documents without number, all of them intended to suggest I am out of control or unreliable; what Pasternack did to you is merely a small episode in a ten-year trail of net-crime. Pasternack and his associates daily sent graphic male homosexual pornography in my name to the single driver conference for months on end (4). Pasternack was accused by the father of two little girls of child molestation for sending the same graphic male homosexual pornography to the father's home computer where the two little girls, doing their homework, saw it; an associate in crime of Pasternack, Bob Chernofsky, with chilling casualness, confirmed that Pasternack did it (5). (The "crime" of the father was that he built an amplifier design I published... Pasternack's group, the Magnequest Scum, also hounded everyone with the slightest connection to me (6).) By now failure to shut me up has driven Pasternack to such irrationality that he is trying to make out that theft of my property and identitity is some kind of virtue (7). The same message also contains the standard threat of all stalkers (say what I want you to say in the manner I want you to say it in the place I want you to say it -- or else) and a ludicrous attempt by Pasternack to show that he knows better what I intended to say in what I wrote than I do. It would be amusing if it were not so pathetic and so tiresome, both for you and for me. This is just for the record. I don't see any point in a long discussion of what anyone who wants to read the evidence can see for himself is true. Such discussions only fuel the activities of stalkers like Pasternack. I apologize for what the stalker Pasternack did to you in my name. Andre Jute The Real McCoy REFERENCES As you read these references, keep in mind that many, perhaps most, of the messages that appear to be from me in fact are posted under my forged signature and are written by Henry Pasternack and that mob of stalkers and flame warriors. The nastier the message purporting to be from me, the more likely it is I did not write it. (1) http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...4214af58b3f5d4 (2)Warning: 54 separate examples! http://groups.google.ie/groups/searc...re%22&start=0& (3) Just a small sample, because by now you have the point: http://groups.google.ie/groups/searc...ie&qt_s=Search (4) See the Sound List ("Joenet") archive at Harvard. You can find it yourself if you have the stomach as I cannot bear even to glance at that sorry tale long enough to confirm it is the right page. (5) For this delation, see the Sound List ("Joenet") archive at Harvard. Chernofsky also stated that Pasternack's did it "because he was frustrated at not being able to get to Andre." I am paraphrasing that as I cannot bear to go read that distressing business again. (6)Warning: 809 distinct examples in just one case! http://groups.google.ie/groups?as_q=...=2007&safe=off Or this contains a short analysis (the post by John Byrns) of the origin of Pasternack's stalking within just such a persecution of my contacts (and another example of theft of my copyright materials by the Pasternack Pal Robert C Chernofsky, aka BobC, who would later so casually confirm that Pasternack is a child molester): http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...3636e395a61fb8 (7) http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...f2a21af07e473c |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
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Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
..... so many words, so little content ....
"Andre Jute" wrote in message ups.com... Hi: I am Andre Jute and you think you have heard more from me than you want in the last fortnight. It isn't true. I sent only three messages in total to any conference outside my usual tube hi-fi hobby group of RAT/UKRA/RAO. The newsgroups who received the flood of forged posts that I can find are rec.audio.marketplace, rec.antiques.radio+phono, rec.audio.tech, alt.collecting.juke-boxes, and for some bizarre reason misc.writing (where experienced inhabitants would instantly know I didn't write those messages sent under my forged signature). We now know who in the last fortnight sent perhaps as many as hundred abusive messages in my name to these groups. He has made the mistake of sending a message in my name to RAT, then forgetting that it is supposed to be from me, and signing it with his own name (1). The forger's name is Henry Pasternack. Pasternack has a history of stalking me going back almost ten years. During that that time he has told innumerable lies about me "in my zeal to flame Andre" (2), and stolen my copyright materials many times (3). He has forged my name to documents without number, all of them intended to suggest I am out of control or unreliable; what Pasternack did to you is merely a small episode in a ten-year trail of net-crime. Pasternack and his associates daily sent graphic male homosexual pornography in my name to the single driver conference for months on end (4). Pasternack was accused by the father of two little girls of child molestation for sending the same graphic male homosexual pornography to the father's home computer where the two little girls, doing their homework, saw it; an associate in crime of Pasternack, Bob Chernofsky, with chilling casualness, confirmed that Pasternack did it (5). (The "crime" of the father was that he built an amplifier design I published... Pasternack's group, the Magnequest Scum, also hounded everyone with the slightest connection to me (6).) By now failure to shut me up has driven Pasternack to such irrationality that he is trying to make out that theft of my property and identitity is some kind of virtue (7). The same message also contains the standard threat of all stalkers (say what I want you to say in the manner I want you to say it in the place I want you to say it -- or else) and a ludicrous attempt by Pasternack to show that he knows better what I intended to say in what I wrote than I do. It would be amusing if it were not so pathetic and so tiresome, both for you and for me. This is just for the record. I don't see any point in a long discussion of what anyone who wants to read the evidence can see for himself is true. Such discussions only fuel the activities of stalkers like Pasternack. I apologize for what the stalker Pasternack did to you in my name. Andre Jute The Real McCoy REFERENCES As you read these references, keep in mind that many, perhaps most, of the messages that appear to be from me in fact are posted under my forged signature and are written by Henry Pasternack and that mob of stalkers and flame warriors. The nastier the message purporting to be from me, the more likely it is I did not write it. (1) http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...4214af58b3f5d4 (2)Warning: 54 separate examples! http://groups.google.ie/groups/searc...re%22&start=0& (3) Just a small sample, because by now you have the point: http://groups.google.ie/groups/searc...ie&qt_s=Search (4) See the Sound List ("Joenet") archive at Harvard. You can find it yourself if you have the stomach as I cannot bear even to glance at that sorry tale long enough to confirm it is the right page. (5) For this delation, see the Sound List ("Joenet") archive at Harvard. Chernofsky also stated that Pasternack's did it "because he was frustrated at not being able to get to Andre." I am paraphrasing that as I cannot bear to go read that distressing business again. (6)Warning: 809 distinct examples in just one case! http://groups.google.ie/groups?as_q=...=2007&safe=off Or this contains a short analysis (the post by John Byrns) of the origin of Pasternack's stalking within just such a persecution of my contacts (and another example of theft of my copyright materials by the Pasternack Pal Robert C Chernofsky, aka BobC, who would later so casually confirm that Pasternack is a child molester): http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...3636e395a61fb8 (7) http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...f2a21af07e473c |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
Andre Jute wrote: Hi: I am Andre Jute Go AWAY you boring idiot. Graham |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
graham wrote: .... so many words, so little content .... Jute is masterful at using many words where one would do. Graham |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:25:48 +0100, Eeyore
wrote: graham wrote: .... so many words, so little content .... Jute is masterful at using many words where one would do. And not long ago he tried to make us believe he wrote one-liners for a comedian. How funny is that? d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
Donkey hnawked: Go AWAY you boring idiot. Go boil your head in a vat of acid, you drooling old goat. |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
Don Pearce said: And not long ago he tried to make us believe he wrote one-liners for a comedian. How funny is that? The Krooborg is always preaching about aBxism and trying to torture people with "tests". Why hasn't he devised a DBT to test for "God"? |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
"George M. Middius" wrote: Donkey hnawked: Go AWAY you boring idiot. Go boil your head in a vat of acid, you drooling old goat. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ! Graham |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
"George M. Middius" wrote: Don Pearce said: And not long ago he tried to make us believe he wrote one-liners for a comedian. How funny is that? The Krooborg is always preaching about aBxism and trying to torture people with "tests". Why hasn't he devised a DBT to test for "God"? Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa ! Would one judge His existence by the perceived quality of miracles ? Graham |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
Poopie digs deep to find the silver lining. Donkey hnawked: Go AWAY you boring idiot. Go boil your head in a vat of acid, you drooling old goat. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ! What do "they say" about mockery? (Hint: Don't ask Krooger for help.) |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
Time for a new batch of whatever donkeys feed on. The Krooborg is always preaching about aBxism and trying to torture people with "tests". Why hasn't he devised a DBT to test for "God"? Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa ! Stop that. You're not really laughing. Would one judge His existence by the perceived quality of miracles ? Stop hnawking in riddles, Donkey. |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
"George M. Middius" wrote: Time for a new batch of whatever donkeys feed on. The Krooborg is always preaching about aBxism and trying to torture people with "tests". Why hasn't he devised a DBT to test for "God"? Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa ! Stop that. You're not really laughing. Would one judge His existence by the perceived quality of miracles ? Stop hnawking in riddles, Donkey. Won't ! |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
"Andre Jute" wrote in message ups.com...
[Deleted] To forge those messages I would have to spoof the IP address of the host you use to connect to Google Groups, which is something I don't have the skill to do. -Henry |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
On 24 Sep, 19:40, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net
wrote: Don Pearce said: And not long ago he tried to make us believe he wrote one-liners for a comedian. How funny is that? The Krooborg is always preaching about aBxism and trying to torture people with "tests". Why hasn't he devised a DBT to test for "God"? EASY! There isn't a proven standard he can test against. |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
On Sep 24, 7:14 pm, "Henry Pasternack" wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in oglegroups.com... [Deleted] To forge those messages I would have to spoof the IP address of the host you use to connect to Google Groups, which is something I don't have the skill to do. -Henry Jute is just a bully! His targets change quite often for no apparent reason. |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
Clyde Slick said: The Krooborg is always preaching about aBxism and trying to torture people with "tests". Why hasn't he devised a DBT to test for "God"? EASY! There isn't a proven standard he can test against. That hasn't stopped Mr. **** from using his precious torture box as a bludgeon in audio. |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
"George M. Middius" wrote: Stop hnawking !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
On Sep 24, 4:14 pm, "Henry Pasternack" wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in oglegroups.com... [Deleted] To forge those messages I would have to spoof the IP address of the host you use to connect to Google Groups, which is something I don't have the skill to do. -Henry Everyone knows I post through a proxy. All you did, Pasternack, was post through proxies and forge my signature. It is ironic that the only people who believe you, Pasternack, are those whom you were stoking up against me in private mail (1) while in public stabbing them in the back with these forgeries in my name. Worthless Peter Wieck is only the latest in a long line of puppets, including within recent memory Pinkerton and Yaeger, hurled against my ankles. After this, it would be an overdue courtesy to draw these proceedings to a close on the non-audio conferences. With contempt, Andre Jute (1) -- As we saw when Pinkerton published Pasternack's incendiary letters to him. -- As we saw when Yaeger admitted to taking direction from Pasternack. -- As we saw when Wieck arrived on RAT fully armed with the Timmie material that Pasternack's criminal associates stole from my computer plus the Magnequest Mob's symptomatic, systemic identity-confusion methods; Wieck sent hundreds of messages lambasting a Mr McCoy, which I just ignored. Here is the original list of Pasternack's ten year crime spree, which he apparently does not deny (he can't -- the evidence is overwhelming and in the public domain): ------- Hi: I am Andre Jute and you think you have heard more from me than you want in the last fortnight. It isn't true. I sent only three messages in total to any conference outside my usual tube hi-fi hobby group of RAT/UKRA/RAO. The newsgroups who received the flood of forged posts that I can find are rec.audio.marketplace, rec.antiques.radio+phono, rec.audio.tech, alt.collecting.juke-boxes, and for some bizarre reason misc.writing (where experienced inhabitants would instantly know I didn't write those messages sent under my forged signature). We now know who in the last fortnight sent perhaps as many as hundred abusive messages in my name to these groups. He has made the mistake of sending a message in my name to RAT, then forgetting that it is supposed to be from me, and signing it with his own name (1). The forger's name is Henry Pasternack. Pasternack has a history of stalking me going back almost ten years. During that that time he has told innumerable lies about me "in my zeal to flame Andre" (2), and stolen my copyright materials many times (3). He has forged my name to documents without number, all of them intended to suggest I am out of control or unreliable; what Pasternack did to you is merely a small episode in a ten-year trail of net-crime. Pasternack and his associates daily sent graphic male homosexual pornography in my name to the single driver conference for months on end (4). Pasternack was accused by the father of two little girls of child molestation for sending the same graphic male homosexual pornography to the father's home computer where the two little girls, doing their homework, saw it; an associate in crime of Pasternack, Bob Chernofsky, with chilling casualness, confirmed that Pasternack did it (5). (The "crime" of the father was that he built an amplifier design I published... Pasternack's group, the Magnequest Scum, also hounded everyone with the slightest connection to me (6).) By now failure to shut me up has driven Pasternack to such irrationality that he is trying to make out that theft of my property and identitity is some kind of virtue (7). The same message also contains the standard threat of all stalkers (say what I want you to say in the manner I want you to say it in the place I want you to say it -- or else) and a ludicrous attempt by Pasternack to show that he knows better what I intended to say in what I wrote than I do. It would be amusing if it were not so pathetic and so tiresome, both for you and for me. This is just for the record. I don't see any point in a long discussion of what anyone who wants to read the evidence can see for himself is true. Such discussions only fuel the activities of stalkers like Pasternack. I apologize for what the stalker Pasternack did to you in my name. Andre Jute The Real McCoy REFERENCES As you read these references, keep in mind that many, perhaps most, of the messages that appear to be from me in fact are posted under my forged signature and are written by Henry Pasternack and that mob of stalkers and flame warriors. The nastier the message purporting to be from me, the more likely it is I did not write it. (1) http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...4214af58b3f5d4 (2)Warning: 54 separate examples! http://groups.google.ie/groups/searc...re%22&start=0& (3) Just a small sample, because by now you have the point: http://groups.google.ie/groups/searc...ie&qt_s=Search (4) See the Sound List ("Joenet") archive at Harvard. You can find it yourself if you have the stomach as I cannot bear even to glance at that sorry tale long enough to confirm it is the right page. (5) For this delation, see the Sound List ("Joenet") archive at Harvard. Chernofsky also stated that Pasternack's did it "because he was frustrated at not being able to get to Andre." I am paraphrasing that as I cannot bear to go read that distressing business again. (6)Warning: 809 distinct examples in just one case! http://groups.google.ie/groups?as_q=...=2007&safe=off Or this contains a short analysis (the post by John Byrns) of the origin of Pasternack's stalking within just such a persecution of my contacts (and another example of theft of my copyright materials by the Pasternack Pal Robert C Chernofsky, aka BobC, who would later so casually confirm that Pasternack is a child molester): http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...3636e395a61fb8 (7) http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...f2a21af07e473c |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
"Eeyore" wrote in
message graham wrote: .... so many words, so little content .... Jute is masterful at using many words where one would do. I count 3 words for Jute to practice using early and often: "I am wrong." |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
In article . com,
Andre Jute wrote: -- As we saw when Wieck arrived on RAT fully armed with the Timmie material that Pasternack's criminal associates stole from my computer Hi Andre, I know you have been complaining for ten years or so about the gang taking your "Timmie material" as their own, but I never stopped to think about it in detail before. I had previously casually assumed that you had put the Timmie story on your old web site, or perhaps even posted it to the rec.audio.tubes newsgroup, and the gang had taken it from there and used it as if it was their own property. I didn't pay particular attention to the "stole from my computer" phrase you always use, and what its significance might be? Pasternak's recent use of the Timmie story changed all that and got me wondering exactly what you mean by the phrase "stole from my computer", are you saying Pasternack and the gang didn't take the Timmie story from your web site, or from a newsgroup, but that they literally hacked into your personal computer via the internet and took the story directly from there? Inquiring minds want to know. Regards, John Byrns -- Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/ |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
John Byrns wrote:
In article . com, Andre Jute wrote: -- As we saw when Wieck arrived on RAT fully armed with the Timmie material that Pasternack's criminal associates stole from my computer Hi Andre, I know you have been complaining for ten years or so about the gang taking your "Timmie material" as their own, but I never stopped to think about it in detail before. I had previously casually assumed that you had put the Timmie story on your old web site, or perhaps even posted it to the rec.audio.tubes newsgroup, and the gang had taken it from there and used it as if it was their own property. I didn't pay particular attention to the "stole from my computer" phrase you always use, and what its significance might be? Pasternak's recent use of the Timmie story changed all that and got me wondering exactly what you mean by the phrase "stole from my computer", are you saying Pasternack and the gang didn't take the Timmie story from your web site, or from a newsgroup, but that they literally hacked into your personal computer via the internet and took the story directly from there? Inquiring minds want to know. Regards, John Byrns Indeed, John, criminal associates of Pasternack hacked into my computer and stole my property, part of the "Timmie" manuscript, from it. It was done by Frank Deutschmann and Robert C Chernofsky, who then published the material on the Joenet to spite me because I cannot sell material that is already published. In this, as usual, the Magnequest Scum shot itself in the foot; I had already decided that the book would do untold harm as a manual for stalkers (of the wannabe-artist type like Worthless Wiecky and Pasternack) and by mutual agreement had withdrawn the manuscript and given the publisher his money back. That was when the Magnequest Scum started altering bits of the manuscript to suit their own purposes and demanding that I defend the "claim" (which of course I had never made); twelve years later Pasternack is still at it. There are thus three crimes: the theft of my property from my computer, the publication of my copyright material without my permission, and the alteration of my copyright material without my permission. Henry Pasternack has made himself complicit in the original crime of the data theft by repeatedly publishing the stolen material. Henry Pasternack is directly guilty of publishing my copyright materials repeatedly after he was told as early as 1998 that they are my copyright materials and he has no right to publish. Henry Pasternack has altered my copyright materials after he was publicly told he had no right to alter them. All these are thefts of the bread from my table. Henry Pasternack's excuse for these thefts, committed in public, is ludicrously that he and the other criminals in his gang have stolen my property so often, it now belongs to them. (This is logic, from a man who brags of a Stanford education? Stanford trustees and fundraisers must cringe every time they see the name of Henry Pasternack.) Henry Pasternack is a thief many, many times over. QED. Henry Pasternack is also slime, but we all know that already. Henry Pasternack is a stalker: he is so consumed by envy and hatred, I doubt Pasternack could give you a coherent explanation of why he is still doing all this -- the public stealing and everything else -- after ten years of being flicked off my thumb like a piece of snot (1). There's some discussion here of whether we should devise a test to discover if Pasternack is a sadomasochist or merely too stupid to connect action to consequence (somewhat similar to the two tests I devised to prove that Krueger hates omnidirectionally). I'm making book on it already if you want to bet. Andre Jute Zero tolerance for the enemies of society (1) Not to mention Pasternack being repeatedly exposed by you for his professional lies! I think Pasternack is punchdrunk. Do his activities on RAT and related conferences recently bear out his own description of A Man Who Found Peace in the Keyboard? Hell, no, Pasternack is dancing around like a dervish with a turpentine stick up his arse, in his frustration beating up his meatpuppets like Worthless Wiecky because he cannot get at me. Soon Pasternack will start on you again, trying to prove that he was right in some thrice-lost argument eight or ten years ago... |
Who Sent the Recent Flood of Abusive Messages re Peter Wieck?
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Hash: SHA1 Andre Jute wrote: Indeed, John, criminal associates of Pasternack hacked into my computer and stole my property, part of the "Timmie" manuscript, from it. I don't know the origin of the document; I got it from the Google archives. I'm curious whether John finds Andre's explanation credible. - -Henry BTW, Andre, as you can see I've digitally signed this message. You can download my public key he http://users.rcn.com/hpasternack/HenryPasternack.asc If your newsreader supports PGP then it will automatically identify the author (me) of the message. You can use the same technique to secure your own postings. Of course, if I can hack into your computer and steal the private key from your password-encrypted keystore, then I will be able to forge messages using your signature. Hmmm... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG+bDgMh/5tuAaWR0RAttAAJ9b4TNy0vaTJcJnK4oBOt+fc2Ry3wCcDq+B QQJXhbeOV4kcj2W72+gTANg= =+O5Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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