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Integrated Amp or Pre-Power Amp?



 
 
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Old October 13th 07, 12:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
max graff
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Hi guys,

My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.

I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?

Please advice.

Cheers

Max

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Old October 13th 07, 12:36 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:14:35 -0700, max graff
wrote:

My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.

I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?

Please advice.


Yeah, one of those. They'll both play music. Unless you go really
cheap or seriously looney-audiophile they'll both probably be the most
transparant piece of your system. Obviously you'll chose something
with the facilities you require. What do you want us to say?
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Old October 13th 07, 01:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
borosteve
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On 13 Oct, 13:14, max graff wrote:
Hi guys,

My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.

I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?

Please advice.

Cheers

Max


The Rotel Rc-06 pre amp is excellent and unless you spend more than
double you will not get better. You do not say what your power amp is
but assuming its half decent that would be better than spending the
same amount on an intergrated amp.
Borosteve.

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Old October 13th 07, 02:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
max graff
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On Oct 13, 11:04 pm, borosteve wrote:
On 13 Oct, 13:14, max graff wrote:

Hi guys,


My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.


I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?


Please advice.


Cheers


Max


The Rotel Rc-06 pre amp is excellent and unless you spend more than
double you will not get better. You do not say what your power amp is
but assuming its half decent that would be better than spending the
same amount on an intergrated amp.
Borosteve.


Hi guys,

I did a bit of more research on the Rotel amps and found out none of
the Rotels (I looked at) have headphone outs which is something I use
too often.

I have now started looking at some integrated amps by Marantz -

1. PM7001 KI
2. PM-15S1

They both support headphones though I am hedging on PM-15S1 for its MM/
MC inputs.

What are you ideas on a Marantz?

Cheers

MB

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Old October 13th 07, 11:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
max graff
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Default Integrated Amp or Pre-Power Amp?

On Oct 13, 10:36 pm, Laurence Payne NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com
wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:14:35 -0700, max graff
wrote:

My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.


I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?


Please advice.


Yeah, one of those. They'll both play music. Unless you go really
cheap or seriously looney-audiophile they'll both probably be the most
transparant piece of your system. Obviously you'll chose something
with the facilities you require. What do you want us to say?


Hi Lawrence,

Two very important things I want from the amp -

1. Phone MM/MC inputs
2. Headphone outputs.

I would love a pre-power combo if both these features are supported by
Rotels. If not may be the Marantz will do the trick for me unless you
suggest another reliable brand in that price range.

Cheers

Max

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Old October 14th 07, 08:17 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
corks
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Default Integrated Amp or Pre-Power Amp?

how about a int amp to go with your power amp . might get the features you
want and you could bi-amp

or seeing as you want headphones perhaps a pre-amp and a headphone amp ???



"max graff" wrote in message
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Hi guys,

My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.

I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?

Please advice.

Cheers

Max



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Old October 14th 07, 08:34 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
max graff
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Default Integrated Amp or Pre-Power Amp?

On Oct 13, 10:14 pm, max graff wrote:
Hi guys,

My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.

I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?

Please advice.

Cheers

Max


Hi guys,


After a bit of research I found the Rotel RC1070/RB1070 will do the
job for me. Its got a headphones out and has MM input (unfortunately
no MC in that price range).

I might book myself for an audition tomorrow and buy them if the price
is right.

Thanks all for your help.

Regards

Max

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Old October 14th 07, 10:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trevor Wilson[_2_]
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"max graff" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi guys,

My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.

I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?


**Budget?
Location?
Willingness to consider used products?
Speakers?
Expectations form the equipment?
SPL expectations etc?

Trevor Wilson


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Old October 14th 07, 11:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
max graff
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Default Integrated Amp or Pre-Power Amp?

On Oct 15, 8:10 am, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:
"max graff" wrote in message

ups.com...

Hi guys,


My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.


I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?


**Budget?
Location?
Willingness to consider used products?
Speakers?
Expectations form the equipment?
SPL expectations etc?

Trevor Wilson



Hi Trev,

Answering your questions -

Im Melbourne based. Prefer new. Bugdet $1000-$1600 AUD.

Main speakers - JBL's and Whatmoughs.

Expectations - very high but I know I can't expect what one would get
from $20K for the price I am willing to pay.

Cheers

Max



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Old October 15th 07, 12:10 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trevor Wilson[_2_]
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Default Integrated Amp or Pre-Power Amp?


"max graff" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 15, 8:10 am, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:
"max graff" wrote in message

ups.com...

Hi guys,


My old two channel pre-amp has gone coo-coo. Time to go shopping.


I am looking at Rotel as I am very happy with my existing CD player.
Should I go for a integrated amp or should I go for a pre amp
connected to a power amp?


**Budget?
Location?
Willingness to consider used products?
Speakers?
Expectations form the equipment?
SPL expectations etc?

Trevor Wilson



Hi Trev,

Answering your questions -

Im Melbourne based. Prefer new. Bugdet $1000-$1600 AUD.

Main speakers - JBL's and Whatmoughs.

Expectations - very high but I know I can't expect what one would get
from $20K for the price I am willing to pay.


**See if you can find a second hand ME240 (high cap would be nice). Although
older, an ME550 + Me14/15/24/15 should be obtainable for the upper end of
your price range and provide a useful improvement in performance. Older
still, but capable of stunning performance, would be an ME75, with any of
the preamps. The ME75'B' series is my favourite. The 'C' series sounded a
little better, but the power transformers were fragile and prone to noise,
if subjected to shock. There is a soon-to-be-released upgrade to all ME
power amps, which will transform them into something very special indeed.
Again, the ME75 is the best bang for your Buck here.

Trevor Wilson


 




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