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Dave Plowman (News) November 20th 07 12:27 PM

How to choose a microphone for SR
 
In article i,
Iain Churches wrote:
Yes indeed. Sodium Ricinoleate - tingling fresh.
The SR advert was the first commercial shown on British
TV (not a lot of people know that:-.)


ISTR a Panorama showing what we had to look forward to when ITV started -
and that included sample adverts. ;-)

But Gibbs SR was indeed the first ad shown by ITV.

Not that I saw it - Grampian TV didn't start up until the '60s.

--
*I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Keith G November 20th 07 02:17 PM

How to choose a microphone for SR
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:07:00 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


campos wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to do some research work in Speech Recognition.

In audio work SR is the acknowledged acronym for *SOUND
REINFORCEMENT*.

Please do NOT use it to mean something else.


It is also the accepted abbreviation for Dolby Spectral Recording

http://www.dolby.com/professional/pr...hnologies.html

Back in the '60s it was a toothpaste.



Yes indeed. Sodium Ricinoleate - tingling fresh.
The SR advert was the first commercial shown on British
TV (not a lot of people know that:-.)




I did* - toothpaste in a block of ice!


*OK, that's 'Macleans' but you know what I mean! ;-)

(But not this one: http://www.candle.org.uk/works/pages/macleans.htm
!!??)









Iain Churches[_2_] November 20th 07 03:20 PM

How to choose a microphone for SR
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article i,
Iain Churches wrote:
Yes indeed. Sodium Ricinoleate - tingling fresh.
The SR advert was the first commercial shown on British
TV (not a lot of people know that:-.)


ISTR a Panorama showing what we had to look forward to when ITV started -
and that included sample adverts. ;-)

But Gibbs SR was indeed the first ad shown by ITV.


It seems that there were more than 20 contenders, and the lucky
winner (for the first ad to be shown) was drawn from a hat.

Iain



Dave Plowman (News) November 20th 07 03:28 PM

How to choose a microphone for SR
 
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
It seems that there were more than 20 contenders, and the lucky
winner (for the first ad to be shown) was drawn from a hat.


More likely a kippot. ;-)

--
*All men are idiots, and I married their King.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Geoff Mackenzie November 20th 07 05:47 PM

How to choose a microphone for SR
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article i,
Iain Churches wrote:
Yes indeed. Sodium Ricinoleate - tingling fresh.
The SR advert was the first commercial shown on British
TV (not a lot of people know that:-.)


ISTR a Panorama showing what we had to look forward to when ITV started -
and that included sample adverts. ;-)

But Gibbs SR was indeed the first ad shown by ITV.

Not that I saw it - Grampian TV didn't start up until the '60s.


And the little girl in the test card was the daughter of my next door
neighbour, who was a BBC sound engineer. Don't know why I mentioned that.

Geoff MacK


David Looser November 20th 07 09:24 PM

How to choose a microphone for SR
 
"Geoff Mackenzie" wrote in message
...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article i,
Iain Churches wrote:
Yes indeed. Sodium Ricinoleate - tingling fresh.
The SR advert was the first commercial shown on British
TV (not a lot of people know that:-.)


ISTR a Panorama showing what we had to look forward to when ITV started -
and that included sample adverts. ;-)

But Gibbs SR was indeed the first ad shown by ITV.

Not that I saw it - Grampian TV didn't start up until the '60s.


And the little girl in the test card was the daughter of my next door
neighbour, who was a BBC sound engineer. Don't know why I mentioned that.


George Hersee. More to the point he was the chairman of the committee that
designed test-card F, the first one to have Carole's picture in it. George
had previously worked on test-cards D and E (the ones with sinusoidal,
rather than square-wave, frequency gratings).

David.



Andre Jute November 20th 07 10:07 PM

How to choose a microphone for SR
 

On Nov 18, 8:43 am, campos wrote:
Hi,

I'm trying to do some research work in Speech Recognition. I just
notice that a good microphone is very important for the accurary rate.
It seems that USB headset with microphone is better. But it's too hard
for me to choose. Would you please recommend one for me? Price could
be $50 - $100. Thanks in advance!


The USB SR microphone I've used for several years with satisfactory
results is Andrea USB NC-7100. However, it requires a microphone
socket as well as the USB as it is fitted with a minijack for the
earphone's audio readback.

I've had other brands which didn't work as well, which is ironic as
the Andrea NC-7100 was essentially a "free" inclusion with IBM's
ViaVoice. I assume that the guys who wrote a speech recognition
programme eventually learned whatever there is to know about SR mikes
(1).

Note that even the NC-7100 is merely "satisfactory", not great. It
seems to me that at present SR applications depend more on the logic
of the software for a workable result than on the quality of the
mikes.

You don't say what sort of research into SR you want to do
(psychological, linguistic, technical, or possibly even medical) but I
confidently forecast that unless you have the patience of Job you will
soon be very frustrated with the quality of even the best available
mikes and just slightly less frustrated with the quality of the best
available software. I have used the best I could find, IBM's ViaVoice,
for years, and have never seen an error-free page; I can type and edit
3000 clean words in half the time it takes to dictate and clean up --
and that is on a good day. I guess a normal rate once you get the hang
of SR would be nearer 40% as fast as just using the keyboard from
scratch. SR is strictly for a) people who type with two fingers and
very slowly at that or b) ambidextrous multitaskers (I'm watching
MotoGP in a corner of my screen as I dictate this letter to you, while
polishing a novel in another window and listening to Sophie Yates play
the harpsichord on electrostatic earphones). In situations like b)
above, SR permits one to increase efficient use of time by adding an
additonal writing task or, at least theoretically, an additional
editing task to what one writes on a keyboard. The editing task is
strictly theoretical, because using SR to copy-edit material longer
than a couple of short pars will turn anyone into an axe murderer in
less time than it takes to read this sentence.

HTH. Good luck.

Andre Jute
Shock horror discovery! It's ViaVoice that makes me kick Poopie and
Bluster in the goolies.

(1) Meterhead bait x2

Iain Churches[_2_] November 22nd 07 06:19 AM

How to choose a microphone for SR
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
It seems that there were more than 20 contenders, and the lucky
winner (for the first ad to be shown) was drawn from a hat.


More likely a kippot. ;-)



My life! What are you implying?

The rest of the commercials were shown soon after, and
IIRC the viewers (answers on a postcard please)
thought the Guinness ad was the best of all.

Iain





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