Tuner query
 

Hi,
I have a Denon analogue tuner and an an old (but excellent) AR amp. I have
acquired a Sony XDL 40W3000 LCD TV and a Sony HDR with Freeview which I can
play though the amp. Both the later of course give digital radio reception.
My question is which one(s) to go for in terms of quality for listening to
the radio (particularly classical music)

Thanks
Gordon

Tuner query
 

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:16:39 -0000, "Gordon MacPherson"
wrote:

Hi,
I have a Denon analogue tuner and an an old (but excellent) AR amp. I have
acquired a Sony XDL 40W3000 LCD TV and a Sony HDR with Freeview which I can
play though the amp. Both the later of course give digital radio reception.
My question is which one(s) to go for in terms of quality for listening to
the radio (particularly classical music)

Thanks
Gordon


The Freeview radio will be better quality than the FM, particularly
for classical (R3?). The digital source is not compressed (dynamics,
not data) and is a much more realistic version of the original than
the FM, which unfortunately has to go through a signal processor
before it gets to the transmitter.

All that assumes you have good clear FM reception of course. If you
live in an area with multipath, then FM will be further degraded.

d
--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Tuner query
 

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:16:39 -0000, "Gordon MacPherson"
wrote:

Hi,
I have a Denon analogue tuner and an an old (but excellent) AR amp. I have
acquired a Sony XDL 40W3000 LCD TV and a Sony HDR with Freeview which I can
play though the amp. Both the later of course give digital radio reception.
My question is which one(s) to go for in terms of quality for listening to
the radio (particularly classical music)


The one that sounds better. Do they sound different?

Tuner query
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:16:39 -0000, "Gordon MacPherson"
wrote:

Hi,
I have a Denon analogue tuner and an an old (but excellent) AR amp. I have
acquired a Sony XDL 40W3000 LCD TV and a Sony HDR with Freeview which I
can
play though the amp. Both the later of course give digital radio
reception.
My question is which one(s) to go for in terms of quality for listening to
the radio (particularly classical music)

Thanks
Gordon


The Freeview radio will be better quality than the FM, particularly
for classical (R3?). The digital source is not compressed (dynamics,
not data) and is a much more realistic version of the original than
the FM, which unfortunately has to go through a signal processor
before it gets to the transmitter.

Unfortunately, Radio 3 on DSAT and Freeview are also compressed. As the
signal is MPEG 2 rather than FM, the results are somewhat different, and as
I understand it, R3 is not so heavily compressed on DSAT and Freeview as it
is on FM. Note also that the processing is different during the day and in
the evening. Evening processing is much lighter, possibly even just overload
catching, as it is anticipated that evening listening will be done under
better conditions than daytime, when there is much listening in the car, in
the kitchen, etc.


All that assumes you have good clear FM reception of course. If you
live in an area with multipath, then FM will be further degraded.

Very true, but note that, at least where I live out in rural Suffolk, with
Freeview signal strength is quite low which results in more than the
occasional click from Freeview, whereas my FM is clean. I have no idea
about DSAT.

As our transatlantic friends will have it, Your Mileage May Vary.

d
--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

S.


--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com

Tuner query
 

In article , Laurence Payne
NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com@?.? scribeth thus
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:16:39 -0000, "Gordon MacPherson"
wrote:

Hi,
I have a Denon analogue tuner and an an old (but excellent) AR amp. I have
acquired a Sony XDL 40W3000 LCD TV and a Sony HDR with Freeview which I can
play though the amp. Both the later of course give digital radio reception.
My question is which one(s) to go for in terms of quality for listening to
the radio (particularly classical music)


The one that sounds better. Do they sound different?

I've got access to FM, DAB, T-DTV, and D-DTV and the FM sounds more
natural IMHO..

FM can be very good but a decent aerial is a must . What model Denon
tuner is it?..

Get a digital satellite receiver and there are some 10 or so classical
stations over the other side of the channel inc the superb Bayern 4
Klassick with their 320 K bitrates!...
--
Tony Sayer

Tuner query
 

In article , Don Pearce
scribeth thus
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:16:39 -0000, "Gordon MacPherson"
wrote:

Hi,
I have a Denon analogue tuner and an an old (but excellent) AR amp. I have
acquired a Sony XDL 40W3000 LCD TV and a Sony HDR with Freeview which I can
play though the amp. Both the later of course give digital radio reception.
My question is which one(s) to go for in terms of quality for listening to
the radio (particularly classical music)

Thanks
Gordon


The Freeview radio will be better quality than the FM, particularly
for classical (R3?). The digital source is not compressed (dynamics,
not data) and is a much more realistic version of the original than
the FM, which unfortunately has to go through a signal processor
before it gets to the transmitter.

All that assumes you have good clear FM reception of course. If you
live in an area with multipath, then FM will be further degraded.

d
And the DAB "sound" is rather annoying to some;!...
--
Tony Sayer

Tuner query
 

In article , Serge Auckland
wrote:
"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...


The Freeview radio will be better quality than the FM, particularly
for classical (R3?). The digital source is not compressed (dynamics,
not data) and is a much more realistic version of the original than
the FM, which unfortunately has to go through a signal processor
before it gets to the transmitter.

Unfortunately, Radio 3 on DSAT and Freeview are also compressed.

In case the OP does not already know. "Compressed" is used to mean two
totally *different* things in this context. Alas, this seems to be because
the same word was chosen by two different sets of engineers who originally
worked on different topics, but which have now come together.

I would prefer to say that the Freeview sound is 'data reduced', but for R3
is not 'level compressed' in the same way as FM. So far as I can tell, this
difference - combined with the relative lack of background noise and
interference - is why I have come to prefer R3 via Freeview to via FM.

As the signal is MPEG 2 rather than FM, the results are somewhat
different, and as I understand it, R3 is not so heavily compressed on
DSAT and Freeview as it is on FM.

I can confirm that, having measured the statistics of the dynamics for
comparisons on a number of occasions.

Slainte,

Jim

--
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html