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D.M. Procida January 8th 08 06:47 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 
Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.

Thanks,

Daniele


Serge Auckland January 8th 08 07:01 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 
"D.M. Procida" wrote in
message
...
Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.

Thanks,

Daniele


No, just the opposite. Spikes will *couple* the 'speakers to the floor, and
consequently any vibrations of the 'speaker cabinet will be transmitted to
the floor, and hence to the people below. You need to isolate the 'speakers
from the floor, which you can do with a block of foam rubber, tennis balls,
squash balls etc.

S.


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Laurence Payne January 8th 08 09:37 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 07:47:20 +0000,
(D.M. Procida) wrote:

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.


No, they would make it worse. The carpet provides a minimal amount of
isolation. Spikes would destroy it.

You can fiddle around and reduce transmitted sound a little. The only
real answer, apart from major structural work, is to play the music
quieter.

Phil Allison January 8th 08 09:50 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 

"D.M. Procida"

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below?



** No.

If not, what would?



** Only a much heavier floor.

Like 12 inch thick concrete.


I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.


** Yawn....



........ Phil




Phil Allison January 8th 08 09:54 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 

"Serge Auckland"
"D.M. Procida"

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.


No, just the opposite. Spikes will *couple* the 'speakers to the floor,
and consequently any vibrations of the 'speaker cabinet will be
transmitted to the floor, and hence to the people below.



** Speaker cabinets barely vibrate at all - certainly not at the corners.

It is the low frequency **sound pressure** in the room that vibrates the
floor.


You need to isolate the 'speakers from the floor,



** Totally impossible.


whcih you can do with a block of foam rubber, tennis balls, squash balls
etc.



** Utter ******** !!



........ Phil




Don Pearce January 8th 08 10:03 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 07:47:20 +0000,
(D.M. Procida) wrote:

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.

Thanks,

Daniele


You need to ask for their help. Play your music at normal volume, then
go down and sit in their flat. If you can hear it *even slightly* turn
it down. When you can no longer hear anything, you have found the
right volume. Mark your volume control and never go above that point.

If you want to listen louder, buy either headphones or a detached
house.

d

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Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Serge Auckland January 8th 08 10:12 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 
"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Serge Auckland"
"D.M. Procida"

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.


No, just the opposite. Spikes will *couple* the 'speakers to the floor,
and consequently any vibrations of the 'speaker cabinet will be
transmitted to the floor, and hence to the people below.



** Speaker cabinets barely vibrate at all - certainly not at the
corners.


Maybe not, but any vibration that's coupled directly to a presumably
concrete floor will be immediately audible below.

It is the low frequency **sound pressure** in the room that vibrates the
floor.


Yes, but cabinet vibrations *will* couple to the floor using spikes.


You need to isolate the 'speakers from the floor,



** Totally impossible.


whcih you can do with a block of foam rubber, tennis balls, squash balls
etc.



** Utter ******** !!


Don't use such language with me, young man, or I'll tell your mother!



....... Phil


S.


--
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Phil Allison January 8th 08 10:24 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 

"Serge Auckland = another Pommy audiophool MORON "

"D.M. Procida"

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.


No, just the opposite. Spikes will *couple* the 'speakers to the floor,
and consequently any vibrations of the 'speaker cabinet will be
transmitted to the floor, and hence to the people below.



** Speaker cabinets barely vibrate at all - certainly not at the
corners.


Maybe not, but any vibration that's coupled directly to a presumably
concrete floor will be immediately audible below.



** Sound pressure COUPLES DIRECTLY to a floor - you ignorant ASS!!!


It is the low frequency **sound pressure** in the room that vibrates
the floor.


Yes, but cabinet vibrations *will* couple to the floor using spikes.



** Cabinets do not vibrate in the corners AT ALL .

Low frequency SPL in the room acts over the whole inside surface and is BY
FAR the dominant cause of floor vibration.

Easy demonstrated by lifting a speaker off the floor in your hands and
noting the level of floor vibration DOES NOT CHANGE.

You colossally ignorant fool.




........ Phil



Keith G January 8th 08 11:22 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Serge Auckland = another Pommy audiophool MORON "

"D.M. Procida"

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.


No, just the opposite. Spikes will *couple* the 'speakers to the floor,
and consequently any vibrations of the 'speaker cabinet will be
transmitted to the floor, and hence to the people below.


** Speaker cabinets barely vibrate at all - certainly not at the
corners.


Maybe not, but any vibration that's coupled directly to a presumably
concrete floor will be immediately audible below.



** Sound pressure COUPLES DIRECTLY to a floor - you ignorant ASS!!!


It is the low frequency **sound pressure** in the room that vibrates
the floor.


Yes, but cabinet vibrations *will* couple to the floor using spikes.



** Cabinets do not vibrate in the corners AT ALL .

Low frequency SPL in the room acts over the whole inside surface and is
BY FAR the dominant cause of floor vibration.

Easy demonstrated by lifting a speaker off the floor in your hands and
noting the level of floor vibration DOES NOT CHANGE.

You colossally ignorant fool.



Tidy yourself up FFS - yet again you've turned an enquiry from a newcomer
(who appears to be female) into another selfish little crap-flinging
opportunity.

Disgraceful....




Ian Iveson January 8th 08 12:09 PM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 
D.M. Procida wrote:

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted
to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what
would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not
very huge
anyway.


If the floor is resonating, some experimentation with layout
of furniture may help slightly, but it would have to be
really heavy to make much of a difference.

Otherwise your only hope is to persuade them to turn it down
or roll off the bass somehow. Your local council may help if
you get desperate, but it's a long haul that way.

A builder may be able to advise on installing beams, or a
pillar or two, to support the floor from below...

Ian



Rob January 8th 08 01:55 PM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 
Ian Iveson wrote:
D.M. Procida wrote:

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted
to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what
would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not
very huge
anyway.


If the floor is resonating, some experimentation with layout
of furniture may help slightly, but it would have to be
really heavy to make much of a difference.

Otherwise your only hope is to persuade them to turn it down
or roll off the bass somehow. Your local council may help if
you get desperate, but it's a long haul that way.


Apparently the noise has to be 35dBA or 10dBA above background to
qualify as 'noise nuisance' under the Anti-Social Behaviour Act.

If I play music at say 75dBA it doesn't even register on my sound meter
(which starts at about 35 dB) in the room directly above, but I can
certainly hear it, and it would annoy me. At 70dBA I'm pretty confident
it wouldn't bother my neighbours - in fact I've rarely heard anything
from them save the odd door slam. I wouldn't put the subwoofer on, though.

I doubt it's much comfort to the OP, but if he likes to listen to music
at night, it bothers the neighbours and sound insulation is poor, it
does look like a move is in order. My Victorian terraced home is pretty
good at containing noise, with a hall one side and a gennel t'other.

Rob

doki January 8th 08 03:40 PM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 

"D.M. Procida" wrote in
message
...
Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.


My experience is that bass is the sound that travels the most from one house
to another, and that speakers tend to sound less bassy if you lift them off
the floor and put them on something else - my girlfriend's stereo can
produce a lot of bass and there's a big difference in the sound when they're
stood on the wide cabinet with her hifi to when they're just on the floor.


David Houpt January 8th 08 05:01 PM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 

Hi

The following web site (for good or ill) has some advice that I have
taken:

http://www.quieterhomes.org/noise_pr...nment_hifi.cfm

Playing TVs and stereos without any sound being audible in the
apartment below or above is not really possible. Certainly, I can hear
my neighbour's TV now and again. I am sure he can hear my hifi on the
same basis. You have to hope that live and let live prevails.

By the way, don't take any notice of Phil Allison, just add him to
your blocked senders list and move on. That's what I did. I only saw
his posts because I have installed new software and forgot to update
things.

Regards

David

Arny Krueger January 8th 08 06:32 PM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 

"D.M. Procida" wrote in
message
...

Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below?


No. The vast majority of the sound transmitted to the occupants of a flat
on the floor below is first transmitted via the air in the room.

If not, what would?


Using headphones or turning down the sound.

Isolating your entire listening room from the rest of the building.

Seriously.




Wally January 8th 08 07:03 PM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 
D.M. Procida wrote:
Would speaker spikes help cut down the sound transmitted to the
occupants of a flat on the floor below? If not, what would?

I believe the floor is carpeted, and the speakers are not very huge
anyway.


If you're not sure whether the floor is carpeted, I guess you aren't the one
with the speakers. Either way, do you know how the speakers are sited at
present, and what the floor is made of?


--
Wally
www.wally.myby.co.uk
You're unique - just like everybody else.



Phil Allison January 8th 08 08:36 PM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 

"Keith G"


( snip ridiculous abuse)

** **** the hell off

- you TROLLING, ASININE,

ASD ****ed pommy MORON !!!!





......... Phil










Keith G January 9th 08 12:57 AM

Speaker spikes to reduce vibrations through the floor?
 

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Keith G"


( snip ridiculous abuse)



This creep can dish it out....



** **** the hell off



Make me...





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