On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:02:28 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

They'll go to a shop and say "I fancy one of those new DAB radios. Can
you slot one in here?" The shop will say "Yes" or "No". Probably
"Yes", as they have the necessary adapters to hand.

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:02:28 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

They'll go to a shop and say "I fancy one of those new DAB radios. Can
you slot one in here?" The shop will say "Yes" or "No". Probably
"Yes", as they have the necessary adapters to hand.


What proportion of the car-owning population is going to go to the trouble
and expense of doing that? A negligible proportion IMO. A much more
pertinent question is how many new cars are being factory-fitted with DAB
radios?

David

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Don Pearce wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:02:28 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

As maybe ..

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

They just won't bother with DAB..

Hear hear!

Well I did when buying a new radio for the old car and think it was worth
it. The reception round London is far better than FM - and without that
annoying multi-path distortion that plagues mobile FM reception.

Around -your- bit of London..


Which to
me in a car sounds far worse than low bitrates on DAB.


To you maybe.. but your one of only Two people I know who have DAB in
their cars, both after fits, and the other one is a Radio station
manager..

No one else I know of has DAB in their Car. Two have fixed table
receivers mains driven...

Hardly mass market penetration is it?..
--
Tony Sayer

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scribeth thus
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tony sayer wrote:
It depends on the car and the popularity of replacing the head unit.
Interfaces to make this remote display - or steering wheel controls etc
- work do exist for some. You'd have to first select the head unit
you're interested in and see if they are available.

Remote CD players are less of a problem - but again not all makers use
the same protocol to drive them.

As maybe ..

Well you did ask. ;-)

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

You could say the same about FM - it was perhaps 20 years before FM
receivers became common in cars. And in that case there was a very real
advantage in having them.

They just won't bother with DAB..

They might if buying a new unit for other reasons. But of course not that
many do these days.

And all the rep mobiles and commercials, HGV's etc aren't going to be
changed are they?..

Why would they be? There will be plenty warning about any switch off date
giving time for makers to fit them as standard - rep mobiles are changed
every three years or so.


Yes Dave .. but FM switch off will be a long time away. And what's the
driver for it?.

TV spectrum being flogged off maybe, but the FM band?..
--
Tony Sayer

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:02:28 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

They'll go to a shop and say "I fancy one of those new DAB radios. Can
you slot one in here?" The shop will say "Yes" or "No". Probably
"Yes", as they have the necessary adapters to hand.

The mass market?, repmobiles HGV's etc..hardley think so...
--
Tony Sayer

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scribeth thus

"Laurence Payne" NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:02:28 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

They'll go to a shop and say "I fancy one of those new DAB radios. Can
you slot one in here?" The shop will say "Yes" or "No". Probably
"Yes", as they have the necessary adapters to hand.


What proportion of the car-owning population is going to go to the trouble
and expense of doing that? A negligible proportion IMO. A much more
pertinent question is how many new cars are being factory-fitted with DAB
radios?

David



Bu**er all David IIRC Vauxhall Astra's have them?....
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Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote in message
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Yes Dave .. but FM switch off will be a long time away. And what's the
driver for it?.

TV spectrum being flogged off maybe, but the FM band?..
--

There was an item about this on "You & Yours" a while back. The Ofcom
spokesperson said that they were keen to switch off analogue radio because
of the cost to broadcasters of having to run parallel DAB and FM transmitter
networks. It seems a pretty feeble excuse to me, those costs are negligible
compared to the cost to the public of having to replace existing radios.

David.

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:30:25 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

They'll go to a shop and say "I fancy one of those new DAB radios. Can
you slot one in here?" The shop will say "Yes" or "No". Probably
"Yes", as they have the necessary adapters to hand.


What proportion of the car-owning population is going to go to the trouble
and expense of doing that? A negligible proportion IMO. A much more
pertinent question is how many new cars are being factory-fitted with DAB
radios?

I have a very ordinary vehicle which came with a very ordinary radio.
I recently spent a very moderate amount on replacing it. The shop
fitted it for "free". After watching it done, I'm glad I didn't shop
around for a discount price and self-install. They had the necessary
adapters and the expertise. If there had been an affordable DAB unit
on offer, I'd have considered it.

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Well I did when buying a new radio for the old car and think it was
worth it. The reception round London is far better than FM - and
without that annoying multi-path distortion that plagues mobile FM
reception.

Around -your- bit of London..

'My bit' must include as far as Hampstead, then. Noticed some horrendous
multi-path there just the other day. On R3.


Which to me in a car sounds far worse than low bitrates on DAB.

To you maybe.. but your one of only Two people I know who have DAB in
their cars, both after fits, and the other one is a Radio station
manager..

Doncha love people commenting on things they have no experience of?

No one else I know of has DAB in their Car. Two have fixed table
receivers mains driven...

Hardly mass market penetration is it?..

Dunno why you're asking me that. I never said it was.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
And all the rep mobiles and commercials, HGV's etc aren't going to be
changed are they?..

Why would they be? There will be plenty warning about any switch off
date giving time for makers to fit them as standard - rep mobiles are
changed every three years or so.


Yes Dave .. but FM switch off will be a long time away. And what's the
driver for it?.

Err, why are you asking me? Did you read my response to the OP?

After that I was merely answering questions or points put to me, as it
were.

TV spectrum being flogged off maybe, but the FM band?..

As I said I don't think it will happen in the foreseeable future.

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