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Iain Churches[_2_] February 4th 08 08:10 AM

WTB: VU Meters
 

I would be interested to buy good second-hand VU meters by
Ernest Turner or Sifam.


Ernest Turner
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...tTurner702.jpg


Sifam
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...SIFAM_AL20.jpg


--
Iain



Dave Plowman (News) February 4th 08 06:39 PM

WTB: VU Meters
 
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

I would be interested to buy good second-hand VU meters by
Ernest Turner or Sifam.



Ernest Turner
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...tTurner702.jpg



Sifam
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...SIFAM_AL20.jpg


Keep an eye on Ebay - do a search and save that. You'll then get emails if
anything matching that search comes up. Those and PPM movements do come up
from time to time.

Sifam seem to be a strange company - I contacted them about a replacement
or repair for the meter on a Ferrograph test set and got a pretty
unhelpful reply.

--
*I get enough exercise just pushing my luck.

Dave Plowman London SW
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Eeyore February 5th 08 04:57 AM

WTB: VU Meters
 


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Sifam seem to be a strange company - I contacted them about a replacement
or repair for the meter on a Ferrograph test set and got a pretty
unhelpful reply.


Unhelpful in what way ? Do you expect a large company to be interested in
making a loss on a one-off repair ?

Graham


Eeyore February 5th 08 04:58 AM

WTB: VU Meters
 


Iain Churches wrote:

I would be interested to buy good second-hand VU meters by
Ernest Turner or Sifam.

Ernest Turner
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...tTurner702.jpg

Sifam
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...SIFAM_AL20.jpg


Those SIFAMs are current product. In fact they only made them like that
to pander to modern 'retro' styling ! What on earth makes you think
there's any NOS ?

Graham


Iain Churches[_2_] February 5th 08 08:22 AM

WTB: VU Meters
 


"Eeyore" wrote in message
...

Iain Churches wrote:

I would be interested to buy good second-hand VU meters by
Ernest Turner or Sifam.

Ernest Turner
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...tTurner702.jpg

Sifam
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...SIFAM_AL20.jpg


Those SIFAMs are current product. In fact they only made them like that
to pander to modern 'retro' styling !


I have spoken with Sifam about these, and asked
for a quote. They still make the retro AL20
because it was used in a large percentage of UK
built studio and broadcast equipment - much of which is
being refurbished as the meters were taken out for use
in some other piece of equipment - so there is a demand.

Ernest Turner is no longer in business unfortunately as their
meters are the most sought after.

What on earth makes you think
there's any NOS ?


I narrowly missed buying a box of ten pieces NOS 1962
just before Christmas.

Iain




Iain Churches[_2_] February 5th 08 08:26 AM

WTB: VU Meters
 


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

I would be interested to buy good second-hand VU meters by
Ernest Turner or Sifam.



Ernest Turner
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...tTurner702.jpg



Sifam
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...SIFAM_AL20.jpg


Keep an eye on Ebay - do a search and save that. You'll then get emails if
anything matching that search comes up. Those and PPM movements do come up
from time to time.


Thanks Dave. I did that a month ago.
The Ernest Turner is the best of the best.
They are very hard to find these days.

Sifam seem to be a strange company - I contacted them about a replacement
or repair for the meter on a Ferrograph test set and got a pretty
unhelpful reply.


I got a spare meter from them for my Ferrograph RTS without
any difficulty (though this was some time ago)

Make contact with:

Dawn Blackburn
Marketing Co-Ordinator
Sifam Instruments Limited
Woodland Road
TORQUAY
TQ2 7AY

Tel: 01803 407689
Fax: 01803 407699
Email:
www.sifam.com



Best regards
Iain





Eeyore February 5th 08 01:01 PM

WTB: VU Meters
 


Iain Churches wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Iain Churches wrote:

I would be interested to buy good second-hand VU meters by
Ernest Turner or Sifam.

Ernest Turner
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...tTurner702.jpg

Sifam
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...SIFAM_AL20.jpg


Those SIFAMs are current product. In fact they only made them like that
to pander to modern 'retro' styling !


I have spoken with Sifam about these, and asked
for a quote. They still make the retro AL20


There's no STILL about it. It's a NEW(ish) product from Sifam made to cater
for the NEW fad for retro styling.


because it was used in a large percentage of UK
built studio and broadcast equipment


Total nonsense. Sounds like a sales person was leading you up the garden
path. All the UK consoles I've ever seen have the AL19,29,39 / 22,32,42AF
style meter

Just ask them how long it's been in the catalogue.

Graham


Dave Plowman (News) February 5th 08 01:26 PM

WTB: VU Meters
 
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
Sifam seem to be a strange company - I contacted them about a
replacement or repair for the meter on a Ferrograph test set and got a
pretty unhelpful reply.


Unhelpful in what way ? Do you expect a large company to be interested in
making a loss on a one-off repair ?


Of course not. I just wanted to do business with them in the normal way.
They didn't seem interested. Not my usual experience of a small UK company.

--
*There's no place like www.home.com *

Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) February 5th 08 01:42 PM

WTB: VU Meters
 
In article i,
Iain Churches wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

I would be interested to buy good second-hand VU meters by
Ernest Turner or Sifam.



Ernest Turner
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...tTurner702.jpg



Sifam
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...SIFAM_AL20.jpg


Keep an eye on Ebay - do a search and save that. You'll then get
emails if anything matching that search comes up. Those and PPM
movements do come up from time to time.


Thanks Dave. I did that a month ago.


Other thing might be to use the scale from a broken one with a more common
voltmeter of the same basic style and movement. Of course I realise a
*true* VU has a very special movement - but many fitted to UK equipment
were only suitable for line up on steady tone where the ballistics aren't
so important. Some BBC spec tape recorders, for example.

The Ernest Turner is the best of
the best. They are very hard to find these days.


Indeed - the same applies the PPMs. The Ernest Turner movements are the
best too.

Sifam seem to be a strange company - I contacted them about a
replacement or repair for the meter on a Ferrograph test set and got a
pretty unhelpful reply.


I got a spare meter from them for my Ferrograph RTS without any
difficulty (though this was some time ago)


Make contact with:


Long since sorted. Can't remember who I spoke to on the phone - the name
gets forgotten long before the bones of the conversation.

Incidentally, I OCR'd and re-printed manuals for both the RTS2 and ATU1
and have the files for them stored. Ended up with a rather higher quality
product than the original duplicated ones.

Dawn Blackburn
Marketing Co-Ordinator
Sifam Instruments Limited
Woodland Road
TORQUAY
TQ2 7AY


Tel: 01803 407689
Fax: 01803 407699
Email:
www.sifam.com




Best regards
Iain


--
*Happiness is seeing your mother-in-law on a milk carton

Dave Plowman London SW
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Iain Churches[_2_] February 5th 08 03:06 PM

WTB: VU Meters
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article i,


Keep an eye on Ebay - do a search and save that. You'll then get
emails if anything matching that search comes up. Those and PPM
movements do come up from time to time.


Thanks Dave. I did that a month ago.


Other thing might be to use the scale from a broken one with a more common
voltmeter of the same basic style and movement. Of course I realise a
*true* VU has a very special movement - but many fitted to UK equipment
were only suitable for line up on steady tone where the ballistics aren't
so important. Some BBC spec tape recorders, for example.


The application I have for these meters requires proper VU ballistics.
There are lots of cheap Taiwanese copies but many of them have not
even taken the trouble to get the scale right on the face plate:-)

The Ernest Turner is the best of
the best. They are very hard to find these days.


Indeed - the same applies the PPMs. The Ernest Turner movements are the
best too.


The PPM which interest me is not the BBC type, but the EMI/Decca
meter, on which the red scale starts at +8dBm and goes to +12dBm

Sifam seem to be a strange company - I contacted them about a
replacement or repair for the meter on a Ferrograph test set and got a
pretty unhelpful reply.


I got a spare meter from them for my Ferrograph RTS without any
difficulty (though this was some time ago)


Make contact with:


Long since sorted. Can't remember who I spoke to on the phone - the name
gets forgotten long before the bones of the conversation.


But did you get your replacement meter?

Incidentally, I OCR'd and re-printed manuals for both the RTS2 and ATU1
and have the files for them stored. Ended up with a rather higher quality
product than the original duplicated ones.


I have original manuals for both the RTS and ATU.
It's still a very useful piece of equipment.

Iain





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