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Rob April 16th 08 07:55 PM

Faulty switch
 
Can anyone tell whether this switch might be faulty:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/things

It's the input selector switch, and the amplifier can only switch
between two of the four sources.

Thanks, Rob

Serge Auckland[_2_] April 16th 08 08:10 PM

Faulty switch
 
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell whether this switch might be faulty:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/things

It's the input selector switch, and the amplifier can only switch between
two of the four sources.

Thanks, Rob



If the amplifier can only select two of the four sources, then, unless the
wiring is at fault, almost by definition it must be the switch. If you look
at the switch photo, there is no wear on two of the contacts, indicating
that the switch is not making contact. However, the switch looks like it is
a six-way switch, and you say there are four inputs, so perhaps it is being
mechanically stopped and therefore there's no wear as the contacts have
never been used.

My conclusion therefore is that it's not obvious from the photos whether the
switch is faulty. As you have gone this far in removing the switch, I
suggest you just replace it.

S.

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Rob April 20th 08 08:59 AM

Faulty switch
 
Serge Auckland wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell whether this switch might be faulty:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/things

It's the input selector switch, and the amplifier can only switch
between two of the four sources.

Thanks, Rob



If the amplifier can only select two of the four sources, then, unless
the wiring is at fault, almost by definition it must be the switch. If
you look at the switch photo, there is no wear on two of the contacts,
indicating that the switch is not making contact. However, the switch
looks like it is a six-way switch, and you say there are four inputs, so
perhaps it is being mechanically stopped and therefore there's no wear
as the contacts have never been used.

My conclusion therefore is that it's not obvious from the photos whether
the switch is faulty. As you have gone this far in removing the switch,
I suggest you just replace it.

S.


Many thanks - apparently the input switch is a weak point on these
amplifiers, and this is not the first time it's been replaced. It's just
that it doesn't *look* broken (no me!).

Can you tell from the photo how many poles it has? There aren't any
model markings on the case, and the only source I've found is:

http://www.partridgeelectronics.co.uk/switchesetc.htm

(Lorin switches, half way down the page).

Thanks, Rob

Don Pearce April 20th 08 09:21 AM

Faulty switch
 
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:59:55 +0100, Rob
wrote:

Serge Auckland wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell whether this switch might be faulty:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/things

It's the input selector switch, and the amplifier can only switch
between two of the four sources.

Thanks, Rob



If the amplifier can only select two of the four sources, then, unless
the wiring is at fault, almost by definition it must be the switch. If
you look at the switch photo, there is no wear on two of the contacts,
indicating that the switch is not making contact. However, the switch
looks like it is a six-way switch, and you say there are four inputs, so
perhaps it is being mechanically stopped and therefore there's no wear
as the contacts have never been used.

My conclusion therefore is that it's not obvious from the photos whether
the switch is faulty. As you have gone this far in removing the switch,
I suggest you just replace it.

S.


Many thanks - apparently the input switch is a weak point on these
amplifiers, and this is not the first time it's been replaced. It's just
that it doesn't *look* broken (no me!).

Can you tell from the photo how many poles it has? There aren't any
model markings on the case, and the only source I've found is:

http://www.partridgeelectronics.co.uk/switchesetc.htm

(Lorin switches, half way down the page).

Thanks, Rob


What you really need is two pole four way. They have used a two pole
six way, and disabled two of the ways.

The Lorin 2P/6W version half way down the page looks OK. Choose on the
basis of what looks like it will fit best, though.



--
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http://www.pearce.uk.com

tony sayer April 20th 08 10:34 AM

Faulty switch
 
In article , Don Pearce
scribeth thus
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:59:55 +0100, Rob
wrote:

Serge Auckland wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell whether this switch might be faulty:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/things

It's the input selector switch, and the amplifier can only switch
between two of the four sources.

Thanks, Rob


If the amplifier can only select two of the four sources, then, unless
the wiring is at fault, almost by definition it must be the switch. If
you look at the switch photo, there is no wear on two of the contacts,
indicating that the switch is not making contact. However, the switch
looks like it is a six-way switch, and you say there are four inputs, so
perhaps it is being mechanically stopped and therefore there's no wear
as the contacts have never been used.

My conclusion therefore is that it's not obvious from the photos whether
the switch is faulty. As you have gone this far in removing the switch,
I suggest you just replace it.

S.


Many thanks - apparently the input switch is a weak point on these
amplifiers, and this is not the first time it's been replaced. It's just
that it doesn't *look* broken (no me!).

Can you tell from the photo how many poles it has? There aren't any
model markings on the case, and the only source I've found is:

http://www.partridgeelectronics.co.uk/switchesetc.htm

(Lorin switches, half way down the page).

Thanks, Rob


What you really need is two pole four way. They have used a two pole
six way, and disabled two of the ways.

The Lorin 2P/6W version half way down the page looks OK. Choose on the
basis of what looks like it will fit best, though.




You could fit something -better- they've never been all that good in
quality....
--
Tony Sayer



Don Pearce April 20th 08 10:59 AM

Faulty switch
 

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:34:50 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Don Pearce
scribeth thus
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:59:55 +0100, Rob
wrote:

Serge Auckland wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell whether this switch might be faulty:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/things

It's the input selector switch, and the amplifier can only switch
between two of the four sources.

Thanks, Rob


If the amplifier can only select two of the four sources, then, unless
the wiring is at fault, almost by definition it must be the switch. If
you look at the switch photo, there is no wear on two of the contacts,
indicating that the switch is not making contact. However, the switch
looks like it is a six-way switch, and you say there are four inputs, so
perhaps it is being mechanically stopped and therefore there's no wear
as the contacts have never been used.

My conclusion therefore is that it's not obvious from the photos whether
the switch is faulty. As you have gone this far in removing the switch,
I suggest you just replace it.

S.


Many thanks - apparently the input switch is a weak point on these
amplifiers, and this is not the first time it's been replaced. It's just
that it doesn't *look* broken (no me!).

Can you tell from the photo how many poles it has? There aren't any
model markings on the case, and the only source I've found is:

http://www.partridgeelectronics.co.uk/switchesetc.htm

(Lorin switches, half way down the page).

Thanks, Rob


What you really need is two pole four way. They have used a two pole
six way, and disabled two of the ways.

The Lorin 2P/6W version half way down the page looks OK. Choose on the
basis of what looks like it will fit best, though.




You could fit something -better- they've never been all that good in
quality....


And if it were me, I'd leave all six positions active and bring a few
extra bits of coax out the back for plugging other stuff in.

d

--

d

David Looser April 20th 08 01:14 PM

Faulty switch
 
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...


You could fit something -better- they've never been all that good in
quality....
--

Cheap switches like those should never be used for low-level audio
switching. Either use a far better one (with gold plated contacts, which is
expensive) or electronic switching.

David.



Rob April 20th 08 02:38 PM

Faulty switch
 
Don Pearce wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:34:50 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Don Pearce
scribeth thus
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:59:55 +0100, Rob
wrote:

Serge Auckland wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell whether this switch might be faulty:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/things

It's the input selector switch, and the amplifier can only switch
between two of the four sources.

Thanks, Rob

If the amplifier can only select two of the four sources, then, unless
the wiring is at fault, almost by definition it must be the switch. If
you look at the switch photo, there is no wear on two of the contacts,
indicating that the switch is not making contact. However, the switch
looks like it is a six-way switch, and you say there are four inputs, so
perhaps it is being mechanically stopped and therefore there's no wear
as the contacts have never been used.

My conclusion therefore is that it's not obvious from the photos whether
the switch is faulty. As you have gone this far in removing the switch,
I suggest you just replace it.

S.

Many thanks - apparently the input switch is a weak point on these
amplifiers, and this is not the first time it's been replaced. It's just
that it doesn't *look* broken (no me!).

Can you tell from the photo how many poles it has? There aren't any
model markings on the case, and the only source I've found is:

http://www.partridgeelectronics.co.uk/switchesetc.htm

(Lorin switches, half way down the page).

Thanks, Rob
What you really need is two pole four way. They have used a two pole
six way, and disabled two of the ways.

The Lorin 2P/6W version half way down the page looks OK. Choose on the
basis of what looks like it will fit best, though.



You could fit something -better- they've never been all that good in
quality....


I've just ordered a new switch - actually 4 for £2.50 inc - so it's not
much ventured, apart from the not inconsiderable hassle of soldering
everything together. Can anyone recommend a better quality switch? I
gather Alps are not bad, but for volume pots?

And if it were me, I'd leave all six positions active and bring a few
extra bits of coax out the back for plugging other stuff in.

d


Good point, thanks - I may well.

Rob


Jim Lesurf[_2_] April 21st 08 08:28 AM

Faulty switch
 
In article , Rob
wrote:



I've just ordered a new switch - actually 4 for £2.50 inc - so it's not
much ventured, apart from the not inconsiderable hassle of soldering
everything together. Can anyone recommend a better quality switch? I
gather Alps are not bad, but for volume pots?


My experience of Alps is that both their pots and switches are excellent.
The ones I chose for my own amps still work perfectly after 20+ years of
daily use. You may have to choose their more expensive models, though...

Slainte,

Jim

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Iain Churches[_2_] April 21st 08 09:42 AM

Faulty switch
 


"Rob" wrote in message
...
Don Pearce wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:34:50 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Don Pearce
scribeth thus
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:59:55 +0100, Rob
wrote:

Serge Auckland wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell whether this switch might be faulty:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/things

It's the input selector switch, and the amplifier can only switch
between two of the four sources.

Thanks, Rob

If the amplifier can only select two of the four sources, then,
unless the wiring is at fault, almost by definition it must be the
switch. If you look at the switch photo, there is no wear on two of
the contacts, indicating that the switch is not making contact.
However, the switch looks like it is a six-way switch, and you say
there are four inputs, so perhaps it is being mechanically stopped
and therefore there's no wear as the contacts have never been used.

My conclusion therefore is that it's not obvious from the photos
whether the switch is faulty. As you have gone this far in removing
the switch, I suggest you just replace it.

S.

Many thanks - apparently the input switch is a weak point on these
amplifiers, and this is not the first time it's been replaced. It's
just that it doesn't *look* broken (no me!).

Can you tell from the photo how many poles it has? There aren't any
model markings on the case, and the only source I've found is:

http://www.partridgeelectronics.co.uk/switchesetc.htm

(Lorin switches, half way down the page).

Thanks, Rob
What you really need is two pole four way. They have used a two pole
six way, and disabled two of the ways.

The Lorin 2P/6W version half way down the page looks OK. Choose on the
basis of what looks like it will fit best, though.



You could fit something -better- they've never been all that good in
quality....


I've just ordered a new switch - actually 4 for £2.50 inc - so it's not
much ventured, apart from the not inconsiderable hassle of soldering
everything together. Can anyone recommend a better quality switch? I
gather Alps are not bad, but for volume pots?


I usually go for Elma, gold plated:

http://www.elma.com/Europe/English/P...itches_30.aspx

The Lorlin is pretty cheap and cheerful:-)

Iain




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