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UnsteadyKen July 8th 08 01:25 AM

H-CAT and doppler control
 

I came accross this manufacturer
http://www.h-cat.com/
The technique sounds convincing but the
technical explanation is way over my head.
Has anyone experienced this brand and could
an expert type have a look at the bumf, and
give a verdict, does it make sense or is it
a solution to a none problem?

Ta.

--
Ken

David Looser July 8th 08 07:17 AM

H-CAT and doppler control
 
"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
m...

I came accross this manufacturer
http://www.h-cat.com/
The technique sounds convincing but the
technical explanation is way over my head.
Has anyone experienced this brand and could
an expert type have a look at the bumf, and
give a verdict, does it make sense or is it
a solution to a none problem?


Having looked at the website I was immediately put off by the huge amount of
bull**** on it, I got bored long before I got to anything that might
actually say anything definitive about what the thing *actually* is, he
seems a lot keener to say what it *isn't*! I simply don't trust
manufacturers who think that that is a good way to advertise their products.

David.




Phil Allison July 8th 08 07:30 AM

H-CAT and doppler control
 

"UnsteadyKen"

I came accross this manufacturer
http://www.h-cat.com/
The technique sounds convincing but the
technical explanation is way over my head.



** Have you got a ring through your nose ??

Leave a trail of bull**** behind you ?



...... Phil







Arny Krueger July 8th 08 10:25 AM

H-CAT and doppler control
 
"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
m

I came across this manufacturer
http://www.h-cat.com/
The technique sounds convincing but the
technical explanation is way over my head.


I think you may be underestimating yourself. You could very well *not* be
experiencing any problems with your own logic abilities or knowledge. The
web page in question is pretty much 100% double-talk. Or if you will, BS.




Dave Plowman (News) July 8th 08 01:21 PM

H-CAT and doppler control
 
In article ,
UnsteadyKen wrote:
I came accross this manufacturer
http://www.h-cat.com/
The technique sounds convincing but the
technical explanation is way over my head.


That's the idea of gobbledygook. ;-)

--
*My designated driver drove me to drink

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

UnsteadyKen July 8th 08 03:32 PM

H-CAT and doppler control
 
Phil Allison said:

** Have you got a ring through your nose ??

Leave a trail of bull**** behind you ?


No, just curious about that page. I read it several times
and despite all the seeming info and tech talk I couldn't grasp
WTF it all meant.
--
Ken

UnsteadyKen July 8th 08 03:36 PM

H-CAT and doppler control
 
Arny Krueger said:

Or if you will, BS.


Thanks Arny, it puzzled me, a whole page of info
and I couldn't get any concrete facts from it.

--
Ken

UnsteadyKen July 8th 08 03:38 PM

H-CAT and doppler control
 
Dave Plowman (News) said:

That's the idea of gobbledygook. ;-)


But it is an a very fine example of it, don't you agree?

--
Ken

UnsteadyKen July 8th 08 03:41 PM

H-CAT and doppler control
 
David Looser said:

he
seems a lot keener to say what it *isn't*! I simply don't trust
manufacturers who think that that is a good way to advertise their products.


Thats how I saw it, reminded me of "This is not a scam make thousands
through paypal, etc"
Maybe it's an offshoot of Peter Belt industries.

--
Ken

Adrian C July 8th 08 03:42 PM

H-CAT and doppler control
 
UnsteadyKen wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) said:

That's the idea of gobbledygook. ;-)


But it is an a very fine example of it, don't you agree?


Could be hiding something. Like their patent infringments.

Sounds a load of "Head-Related Transfer Functions" to me...

--
Adrian C

keithr July 10th 08 10:01 PM

H-CAT and doppler control
 

"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
m...

I came accross this manufacturer
http://www.h-cat.com/
The technique sounds convincing but the
technical explanation is way over my head.
Has anyone experienced this brand and could
an expert type have a look at the bumf, and
give a verdict, does it make sense or is it
a solution to a none problem?


100% extra virgin snake oil, the old technique, invent a problem and then
provide an expensive solution to it.

They can't even get their physics right:-

" There is only one other place in nature where this caliber of accuracy
occurs - and that is when sound waves travel through air at constant speed
of Mach One."

Certainly sound waves travel at mach 1, but mach 1 is not a constant speed,
it depends on the density of the medium which is why you sound like Mickey
Mouse with a lung full of helium, and, in air, it varies with the local
temperature and pressure.

As for an analogue amplifier producing doppler effects, well I suppose there
is one born every minute.

Keith



Phil Allison July 11th 08 01:03 AM

H-CAT and doppler control
 

"keithr"

They can't even get their physics right:-

" There is only one other place in nature where this caliber of accuracy
occurs - and that is when sound waves travel through air at constant speed
of Mach One."

Certainly sound waves travel at mach 1, but mach 1 is not a constant
speed, it depends on the density of the medium which is why you sound like
Mickey Mouse with a lung full of helium, and, in air, it varies with the
local temperature and pressure.



** The speed of sound (or Mach 1) varies with the temperature of air (or any
gas) alone - pressure and or density have NO effect.

At the altitudes where passenger jets cruise, the air is very cold so the
Mach 1 speed is lower than at ground level.

Fact is, a sound wave moves forward at a speed just below the average
molecular speed of the molecules of the gas - cold molecules move slower
as do heavier ones at the same temperature.



....... Phil






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