In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
I used the term "freelance" (editor understood)
which implies an understanding of the concepts
and previous editing skills and training.

I have seen film editors who had previously used Steinbecks
and perhaps U-matic Lo-Band systems working fast and
accurately with Avid or Lightworks, after a very short
initiation indeed. They are well-known, and rightly so, as
intuitive systems.

But after a few minutes?

Similarly, any sound editor should be at home with ProTools
after a very short time indeed.

I might have a different definition of 'at home' than you.

--
*Prepositions are not words to end sentences with *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
I used the term "freelance" (editor understood)
which implies an understanding of the concepts
and previous editing skills and training.

I have seen film editors who had previously used Steinbecks
and perhaps U-matic Lo-Band systems working fast and
accurately with Avid or Lightworks, after a very short
initiation indeed. They are well-known, and rightly so, as
intuitive systems.

But after a few minutes?

It certainly doesn't take long. The large number
of levels of undo mean that even someone new to Avid,
Lightworks, or ProTools can work at offline level with
confidence.

Similarly, any sound editor should be at home with ProTools
after a very short time indeed.

I might have a different definition of 'at home' than you.

Dave. Ya gotta practice:-)

Iain.

Iain Churches wrote:
"Don Pearce" wrote in message
et...
Iain Churches wrote:

So is there only one level of undo in Audition. Don?

Even the early versions of audio workstations from
Opus, New England Digital, Fairlight etc offered 99 layers.

No, there are many levels (100 I think), but you must go back through them
in the reverse order you applied the changes. You can't select one several
levels back to undo, while leaving more recent ones intact.


Don.
Dyaxis, Fairlight and ProTools are my editors of choice I was
wondering in Audition, does one have the opportunity to set
the "slope" of the the edit, ie the duration of the splice
in frames or mS ? Some classical edits require a very long
transition from take to take to make them work successfully.

Iain






Yes, that is certainly there. Actually punching works particularly
nicely, I find.

d

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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Iain Churches wrote:

Don.
Dyaxis, Fairlight and ProTools are my editors of choice I was
wondering in Audition, does one have the opportunity to set
the "slope" of the the edit, ie the duration of the splice
in frames or mS ? Some classical edits require a very long
transition from take to take to make them work successfully.


Yes, that is certainly there. Actually punching works particularly nicely,
I find.


I knew a very skilled music editor in the UK, Suzie Taylor,
who used to mark all her edits "on the fly" with a technique
whereby she pre-empted the cut by making the downstroke
to the keyboard just a little early and with a sharp rebound,
just as one might hit the underside of a cymbal with a stick.
It worked very well indeed. Then she pressed a three key
sequence which she had stored as a macro: "Auto-Edit",
"Wind to top of Segment", "Play".for the splices to be
executed, and played back: Rarely was there anything
that needed to be trimmed afterwards.


Iain

"Malcolm H" wrote in message
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This is a spin-off from an earlier thread in which Graham posted the
following link:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multime...Edit-Pro.shtml

This link points to a download of the original Syntrillium Cool Edit Pro
audio editing program as it was before Syntrillium was acquired by Adobe
Systems in 2003. It is a 21 day trial version requiring a license for full
activation. Adobe appear to be trying to charge $299 for a full license
which (from memory) is substantially more that Syntrillium used to charge.

Does anybody know how I can get a license for this program at a sensible
price? I have been a licensed user of Cool Edit 2000 for many years.

I know Adobe are offering their version called Adobe Audition but this is
a horrible bloated program which has eliminated all the simple elegance of
the original Syntrillium product.

Malcolm

I recall that an early "evaluation" copy of Syntrillium was distributed
on computer magazine cover-disks. It had all of the features of
the licenced product, but you had to choose which features you
wanted active each time you started the programme.
--
Graham.

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"Graham." wrote in message
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I recall that an early "evaluation" copy of Syntrillium was distributed
on computer magazine cover-disks. It had all of the features of
the licenced product, but you had to choose which features you
wanted active each time you started the programme.
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I suspect you are talking about Cool Edit 2000, not Cool Edit Pro here. The
"evaluation" copy is in fact the real thing, it just needs registration to
make it work properly. Installing CE2k is a two-part process, first install
the "evaluation" program, then install the "unlock" program, which requires
a licence number. Occasionally on launching CE2k the "unlock" program fails
to run correctly and so it starts up in "evaluation" mode with the "choose
the features you want to use" screen, I just close it and re-open it which
cures the problem. There are other limitations to using it in evaluation
mode apart from the restriction on features, one is an increasingly
desperate nag window, the other is a restriction on saving files.

David.