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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote in message American industry did wonderfully out of it, esp not having to worry about air raids. We did have problems with German submarines off the east coast and in the Gulf of Mexico. Only very briefly. Fortunately that corresponded almost precisely with the period during which Bletchley Park lost access to the Shark Enigma traffic. Things would have turned out very differently had Doenitz still been attacking Atlantic convoys during that time. Despite all of which the RAF dropped a far greater percentage of tonnage of bombs in Europe than the USAAC/USAAF. Yes, but we were basically fighting two wars against two different world powers, in two different major oceans and on two different major continents, all at the same time. As were we, of course - with the added disadvantage of our enemy simultaneously beating the crap out of our industry. d |
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Eeyore wrote: I do wish you'd give up talking about your country like it is the world - thought only the septics did that. Australia uses essentially the same IEC standards as we do but by another name. So you're agreeing two core mains extension leads are illegal in the UK? -- *Eschew obfuscation * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Ian Jackson wrote: Eeyore writes Ian Jackson wrote: So 240V is 'normal'. Try telling Chinese manufacturers of cheap wall warts that ! I had one that would audibly buzz around 250V. Oh yes! At work, I got involved in investigating why one simple type of Far Eastern wall wart was failing with an O/C primary (thermal fuse problem). It was because there was simply nowhere near enough iron in the transformer. Even with no load, a plot of I/P current vs I/P volts rapidly shot off into outer space at 230V. We concluded that it was either really designed for 220V or for 60Hz. Crazy ! A little known one is that in Mexico the line voltage is 127V. It's great for burning out US guitar amp power TXs ! Especially those brands who think the US voltage is 110V. Graham |
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Phil Allison wrote: "Ian Jackson" Oh yes! At work, I got involved in investigating why one simple type of Far Eastern wall wart was failing with an O/C primary (thermal fuse problem). It was because there was simply nowhere near enough iron in the transformer. Even with no load, a plot of I/P current vs I/P volts rapidly shot off into outer space at 230V. ** Nearly all compact transformer type AC adaptors operate the iron core well into magnetic saturation making for a rather high Imag value at rated AC voltage. Often the off load VA consumption figure is the same as the on load one. I have a Samsung (cable company supplied) set top box that has a standy button. The power consumption is the same in either on or standy at 17W. CRETINS ! Graham |
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Arny Krueger wrote: "Eeyore" wrote American industry did wonderfully out of it, esp not having to worry about air raids. We did have problems with German submarines off the east coast and in the Gulf of Mexico. That's true, I recall that now. The East coast was by far the worst though and was a case of total negligence by the USN since they refused to accept British intercept info. Despite all of which the RAF dropped a far greater percentage of tonnage of bombs in Europe than the USAAC/USAAF. Yes, but we were basically fighting two wars against two different world powers, in two different major oceans and on two different major continents, all at the same time. So were WE ! The Burma War is often called the 'forgotten war'. Graham |
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Don Pearce wrote: Arny Krueger wrote: "Eeyore" wrote in American industry did wonderfully out of it, esp not having to worry about air raids. We did have problems with German submarines off the east coast and in the Gulf of Mexico. Only very briefly. Fortunately that corresponded almost precisely with the period during which Bletchley Park lost access to the Shark Enigma traffic. Things would have turned out very differently had Doenitz still been attacking Atlantic convoys during that time. Not totally true. The USN poo-poo'd UK intelligence intercepts as well. Probably I think because we couldn't risk telling them how we got it at that time (before the US entered the war). Walls have ears you know. Graham |
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Don Pearce wrote: Arny Krueger wrote: Yes, but we were basically fighting two wars against two different world powers, in two different major oceans and on two different major continents, all at the same time. As were we, of course - with the added disadvantage of our enemy simultaneously beating the crap out of our industry. All the more amazing that Hitler's first defeat was Britain. Graham |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Eeyore wrote: I do wish you'd give up talking about your country like it is the world - thought only the septics did that. Australia uses essentially the same IEC standards as we do but by another name. So you're agreeing two core mains extension leads are illegal in the UK? Please read what I said. Graham |
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Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote: Arny Krueger wrote: "Eeyore" wrote in American industry did wonderfully out of it, esp not having to worry about air raids. We did have problems with German submarines off the east coast and in the Gulf of Mexico. Only very briefly. Fortunately that corresponded almost precisely with the period during which Bletchley Park lost access to the Shark Enigma traffic. Things would have turned out very differently had Doenitz still been attacking Atlantic convoys during that time. Not totally true. The USN poo-poo'd UK intelligence intercepts as well. Probably I think because we couldn't risk telling them how we got it at that time (before the US entered the war). Walls have ears you know. Graham Sure, that too - but it doesn't negate what I wrote. d |
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Eeyore wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Eeyore wrote: I do wish you'd give up talking about your country like it is the world - thought only the septics did that. Australia uses essentially the same IEC standards as we do but by another name. So you're agreeing two core mains extension leads are illegal in the UK? Please read what I said. I did. -- *Rehab is for quitters. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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