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Phil Allison March 9th 09 11:53 PM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 

"Arny Krueger"
"David Looser"
"Arny Krueger"

I didn't make up the lexicon of audio. ;-)


Maybe not, but you choose to use it.


Just like I choose to primarily read/write English of the 6 languages that
I am fluent in! ;-)

And I have never before met the term "dynamic range" applied to
loudspeakers, so as far as I am concerned in this context you did make it
up.


Thank whatever you will. I've used the term many times and never been
challenged until today.



** Since you have no valid case to justify such nonsensical use - it's
high time to quit.


I'll probably keep on using it...


** Like the smug, Septic ****head you are - naturally.



...... Phil







Eeyore March 10th 09 03:49 AM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 


Iain Churches wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Iain Churches wrote:
The LF isn't 'weak' - or at least not in a decent room - but not as
extended as would be the norm. They have a pretty sharp cutoff below
42
Hz.

When I was a 2E we carried the ELS down to studio III for some
tests. The general concensus was that the bass was weak, compared with
JBL, Tannoy, Lockwood etc etc. The bass drum sound was very odd,
no "thump" at all, just lots of "whack" as someone described it.

I'm afraid that's because you were used to the sound from those cabinet
speakers where the boxes have a voice of their own. Good deep male speech
proves it - an ELS is far more natural.

Tannoys and Lockwoods - which used the same drivers - were never known
for
their neutrality. Fine speakers though they were.


You do know Lockwood started off as coffin makers ?


Yes:-) I went to their factory in Harrow a couple of times.
They used the same handles on the Lockwood Major cabs
as they had previously used on the coffins.

One of my pals at Island Studios used to knock on the top
of the cabinet and in a Pink Floyd voice say: "Is there anybody
IN there?"


That's classic ! :~)

Graham


Iain Churches[_2_] March 10th 09 06:48 AM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Iain Churches wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote


You do know Lockwood started off as coffin makers ?


Yes:-) I went to their factory in Harrow a couple of times.
They used the same handles on the Lockwood Major cabs
as they had previously used on the coffins.

One of my pals at Island Studios used to knock on the top
of the cabinet and in a Pink Floyd voice say: "Is there anybody
IN there?"


That's classic ! :~)

Graham


It alway got a laugh:-)
Iain




Adrian C March 10th 09 04:49 PM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 
Eeyore wrote:
You do know Lockwood started off as coffin makers ?


http://www.lockwoodaudio.co.uk

only sez...

"The original Lockwood Company was formed in 1929 in Harrow,
specialising in display cabinets for museums and embassies in many
countries"

Well, I s'pose a coffin is a type of display case ... :-)

--
Adrian C

Dave Plowman (News) March 10th 09 05:15 PM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 
In article ,
Adrian C wrote:
You do know Lockwood started off as coffin makers ?


http://www.lockwoodaudio.co.uk


only sez...


"The original Lockwood Company was formed in 1929 in Harrow,
specialising in display cabinets for museums and embassies in many
countries"


I first heard of them as makers of studio furniture for the BBC - things
like the wood casing for control desks etc. They also made the cabinets
(or some of them) for the LSU10. It wasn't put about then they were coffin
makers.

--
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Don Pearce[_3_] March 10th 09 05:26 PM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:15:44 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Adrian C wrote:
You do know Lockwood started off as coffin makers ?


http://www.lockwoodaudio.co.uk


only sez...


"The original Lockwood Company was formed in 1929 in Harrow,
specialising in display cabinets for museums and embassies in many
countries"


I first heard of them as makers of studio furniture for the BBC - things
like the wood casing for control desks etc. They also made the cabinets
(or some of them) for the LSU10. It wasn't put about then they were coffin
makers.


Nice steady work though - you can see why they would do it (and why
they wouldn't necessarily talk about it to other customers too).

d

Iain Churches[_2_] March 10th 09 05:55 PM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 

"Adrian C" wrote in message
...
Eeyore wrote:
You do know Lockwood started off as coffin makers ?


http://www.lockwoodaudio.co.uk

only sez...

"The original Lockwood Company was formed in 1929 in Harrow, specialising
in display cabinets for museums and embassies in many
countries"

Well, I s'pose a coffin is a type of display case ... :-)


They also made very high quality broadcast and studio
furniture, console housings etc, so speaker cabinets were
probably a logical step for them, at a time before Tannoy
had a professional products division.


Iain



Iain Churches[_2_] March 10th 09 05:57 PM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:49b8b0a5.897928093@localhost...
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:15:44 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Adrian C wrote:
You do know Lockwood started off as coffin makers ?


http://www.lockwoodaudio.co.uk


only sez...


"The original Lockwood Company was formed in 1929 in Harrow,
specialising in display cabinets for museums and embassies in many
countries"


I first heard of them as makers of studio furniture for the BBC - things
like the wood casing for control desks etc. They also made the cabinets
(or some of them) for the LSU10. It wasn't put about then they were coffin
makers.


Nice steady work though - you can see why they would do it (and why
they wouldn't necessarily talk about it to other customers too).


I wonder if they hired a skeleton staff.
Ouch!

Iain



Dave Plowman (News) March 10th 09 09:25 PM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
They also made very high quality broadcast and studio
furniture, console housings etc, so speaker cabinets were
probably a logical step for them, at a time before Tannoy
had a professional products division.


Surely Tannoy started out as a pro manufacturer - making public address
equipment? Hence it being at one time a generic term?
Dunno where the famous dual concentric came from - I'd guess it was
originally made for some pro purpose like cinema use etc before ending up
in domestic speakers.

There's a bit of history here but doesn't cover non Hi-Fi stuff.

http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/olde...yspeakers.html

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*The e-mail of the species is more deadly than the mail *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Laurence Payne[_2_] March 12th 09 09:54 AM

Hi-Fi versus monitor speakers
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:18:31 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yeah, strange that the BBC seem to have a lot of Bose speakers then...
Brian


In what application? I've seen 802s pointing at the audience when
recording talk shows, a job those units are well suited for. What
else?


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