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It's official - LPs are on the up again!
Well OK, that's what my mate SN says on the basis that he bumped into a
friend buying vinyl in a charity shop at the same he (SN) was buying vinyl in the same charity shop! :-) Actually, he does say that more people are mentioning it in the shop lately and buying needles - which they apparently do rather a lot of! (There was summat else interesting/relevant he said that I would have mentioned here, but it's gone now!) Anyway, he brung me a bag of odds and sods: James Last, Latin Brass, Stereo Samplers &c. - almost all virtually *unplayed* the other night when he returned my spare Lenco deck, which I had replinthed in a kitchen worktop sample: http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/LencoLast.jpg Earlier this evening, I slung it down unchecked/unexamined, hooked it up to me new (but *slated*, apparently) Denon SS amp's 'Phono In' and popped a record on..... Wah! Bliss! (Even with a poop Goldring G800 and the record dragging against the curtain - see pic!) I don't give a rat's what levels they achieve with modern 'music replay' technology in the future - *nothing* will ever shift the humble LP from my No. 1 slot! :-) |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message om... People are having vinyl parties as well you know. We used to have shellac parties when we were kids, and make 78prm records of Joe Loss into flowerpots by leaving them in the sun (there used to be sun in the UK then) and shaping them. The older kids used them for skeet shooting :-((((( I also know that many releases are not on vinyl, but the problem often is the time. Let us not get into a situation where CDs etc, are all only 45 minutes long so it will fit on an lp. Most CD's issued on vinyl seem to become double albums, with a gatefold sleeve, additional pictures and information which is either omitted from the CD booklet or printed too small to be read without the aid of a microscope. For classical music, the capacity of the CD is ideal. But for the majority of pop/chart recordings, *far* too long. Hence the need to include "remixes", fillers and alternative versions ad infinitum. A 20-30 minute listening stint to this kind of music is enough, as the artistic quality of the titles depreciates with the running order. They have their place, but at the current state of the art, if the recording is done correctly, cds etc, are better than vinyl. Yes indeed. There is no question about that. Unfortunately, the wheel has turned too far to be able to go back to fidelity mastering in some genres of CD production. Iain |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
Iain Churches wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message om... People are having vinyl parties as well you know. We used to have shellac parties when we were kids, and make 78prm records of Joe Loss into flowerpots by leaving them in the sun (there used to be sun in the UK then) and shaping them. The older kids used them for skeet shooting :-((((( We still have sunshine in the UK, and all the data is available to show that the summers weren't long and hot, Christmas wasn't always white, and Wagon Wheels weren't any bigger than they are now. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...ata/index.html And now I know I can do something useful with my stack of 78s.... -- Eiron. |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"Eiron" wrote in message ... Iain Churches wrote: "Brian Gaff" wrote in message om... People are having vinyl parties as well you know. We used to have shellac parties when we were kids, and make 78prm records of Joe Loss into flowerpots by leaving them in the sun (there used to be sun in the UK then) and shaping them. The older kids used them for skeet shooting :-((((( We still have sunshine in the UK, and all the data is available to show that the summers weren't long and hot, Christmas wasn't always white, and Wagon Wheels weren't any bigger than they are now. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...ata/index.html Yes. Of course. It just seems like that:-) But even nostaligia is not what it used to be. And now I know I can do something useful with my stack of 78s.... Tha might not be prudent. Good collectable shellacs go for several hundred pounds a piece. A pal of mine has an unplayed 78rpm of Elvis Presley, "All Shook Up" It has its original sealing sticker, in a brown paper cover "Alphonse Carey - Records, Sheet Music and fine Pianos - Newbury. So sort befoe you shoot:-) Iain |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message om... People are having vinyl parties as well you know. I also know that many releases are not on vinyl, but the problem often is the time. Let us not get into a situation where CDs etc, are all only 45 minutes long so it will fit on an lp. CDs go on far too long, which is why CD players have remote controls - so it's possible to zip through one in about 10/12 minutes without keep getting up! :-) They have their place, but at the current state of the art, if the recording is done correctly, cds etc, are better than vinyl. Ducks under table to avoid tomato. No, the ducks are in the back garden - this was taken from the back step just now: http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/Ducks.jpg We get them every year for a few months - regular as clockwork! |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"Iain Churches" wrote For classical music, the capacity of the CD is ideal. But for the majority of pop/chart recordings, *far* too long. You can say that again! |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
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Keith G wrote: CDs go on far too long, which is why CD players have remote controls - so it's possible to zip through one in about 10/12 minutes without keep getting up! :-) Ah - the Classic FM syndrome. -- *A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"Keith G" wrote I don't give a rat's what levels they achieve with modern 'music replay' technology in the future - *nothing* will ever shift the humble LP from my No. 1 slot! :-) OK, not strictly true - I meant 'chosen music replay' - I actually listen to more radio than anything else, as I have it on all day long and very often listen into the wee small hours when some of the most sublime stuff is on. (Hence posts here at silly o' clock, sometimes!) I don't know how it happens, but Classic FM usually goes very good indeed in the evenings while Radio 3 is getting far too good at broadcasting a 'Cello Masterclass' or some such *talky* thing just when you don't need it! |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
Eiron wrote:
People are having vinyl parties as well you know. We used to have shellac parties when we were kids, and make 78prm records of Joe Loss into flowerpots by leaving them in the sun (there used to be sun in the UK then) and shaping them. The older kids used them for skeet shooting :-((((( We still have sunshine in the UK, and all the data is available to show that the summers weren't long and hot, Christmas wasn't always white, and Wagon Wheels weren't any bigger than they are now. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...ata/index.html But the sun was hotter. It's a while since I've seen melted tarmac running in the gutters. Ian |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
In article , Keith G
scribeth thus "Keith G" wrote I don't give a rat's what levels they achieve with modern 'music replay' technology in the future - *nothing* will ever shift the humble LP from my No. 1 slot! :-) OK, not strictly true - I meant 'chosen music replay' - I actually listen to more radio than anything else, as I have it on all day long and very often listen into the wee small hours when some of the most sublime stuff is on. (Hence posts here at silly o' clock, sometimes!) I don't know how it happens, but Classic FM usually goes very good indeed in the evenings while Radio 3 is getting far too good at broadcasting a 'Cello Masterclass' or some such *talky* thing just when you don't need it! Yes Classic FM has its moments but is processed to death and as you say Radio 3 is too much rabbit.. What's needed is a Radio Three and a half which they could put on digital assuming that we had a good digital radio system... -- Tony Sayer |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"tony sayer" wrote in message
... Yes Classic FM has its moments but is processed to death and as you say Radio 3 is too much rabbit.. I can't stand Classic FM. Not only is it processed to death as you say, but it also interrupts the music far too often for those indescribably awful adverts (why are radio adverts so much more irritating than TV ones?). But I also agree that there is far too much rabbit on R3, particularly in the evenings. What's needed is a Radio Three and a half which they could put on digital assuming that we had a good digital radio system... Or change Radio 3 into a proper classical music station and put the rabbit on a new digital-only station? David. |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Keith G scribeth thus "Keith G" wrote I don't give a rat's what levels they achieve with modern 'music replay' technology in the future - *nothing* will ever shift the humble LP from my No. 1 slot! :-) OK, not strictly true - I meant 'chosen music replay' - I actually listen to more radio than anything else, as I have it on all day long and very often listen into the wee small hours when some of the most sublime stuff is on. (Hence posts here at silly o' clock, sometimes!) I don't know how it happens, but Classic FM usually goes very good indeed in the evenings while Radio 3 is getting far too good at broadcasting a 'Cello Masterclass' or some such *talky* thing just when you don't need it! Yes Classic FM has its moments but is processed to death and as you say Radio 3 is too much rabbit.. The 'horns' help no end with the 'processed' sound, I find.... |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
On Sat, 16 May 2009 10:02:19 +0100, "David Looser"
wrote: Hi! Or change Radio 3 into a proper classical music station and put the rabbit on a new digital-only station? David. Well, why not sign up to the Friends of Radio 3 at http://www.for3.org/ They have had some success in reducing the rabbit and other tendencies (my hates would include foreign pop (AKA world) music. Cheers David |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
In article ,
David Looser wrote: Yes Classic FM has its moments but is processed to death and as you say Radio 3 is too much rabbit.. I can't stand Classic FM. Not only is it processed to death as you say, but it also interrupts the music far too often for those indescribably awful adverts (why are radio adverts so much more irritating than TV ones?). But I also agree that there is far too much rabbit on R3, particularly in the evenings. I wonder if it's down to cost? Its peak audience will be during the day - and much of the rabbit would be cheap to make, compared to the cost of playing most music. What's needed is a Radio Three and a half which they could put on digital assuming that we had a good digital radio system... Or change Radio 3 into a proper classical music station and put the rabbit on a new digital-only station? -- *My designated driver drove me to drink Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"Keith G" wrote in message
... The 'horns' help no end with the 'processed' sound, I find.... But do they get rid of the adverts? David. |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
In article ,
Keith G wrote: Yes Classic FM has its moments but is processed to death and as you say Radio 3 is too much rabbit.. The 'horns' help no end with the 'processed' sound, I find.... More magical properties from Kitty. It would be some speaker which could un-compress an over compressed signal. Of course if they have a poor top end like most 'full range' drivers it might go some way to taming that. -- *The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article ,
David Looser wrote: For a normal domestic set-up I regard a phantom centre as preferable. Yup. The point of the centre speaker is to lock dialogue to the screen centre even for members of the audience who are well away from the sweet spot. Problem is that speech frequencies are the most critical to the ear so require a very good match for the third speaker. And most designed for this job - ie to fit underneath the screen etc - are more often made to withstand a thrashing. I bought a very expensive KEF centre speaker which was hopeless as a match. But now use it as a foldback speaker on pro stuff where a small - but *very* loud source is needed. ;-) -- *The most common name in the world is Mohammed * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... In article , David Looser wrote: For a normal domestic set-up I regard a phantom centre as preferable. Yup. The point of the centre speaker is to lock dialogue to the screen centre even for members of the audience who are well away from the sweet spot. Problem is that speech frequencies are the most critical to the ear so require a very good match for the third speaker. And most designed for this job - ie to fit underneath the screen etc - are more often made to withstand a thrashing. Indeed. Which is why in professional use the centre speaker will usually be identical to the L & R ones. And as we agree for domestic use a phantom centre is usually preferable. David. |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
In article , David Looser
scribeth thus "tony sayer" wrote in message ... Yes Classic FM has its moments but is processed to death and as you say Radio 3 is too much rabbit.. I can't stand Classic FM. Not only is it processed to death as you say, but it also interrupts the music far too often for those indescribably awful adverts (why are radio adverts so much more irritating than TV ones?). They simply pay for classic fm;!.. But I also agree that there is far too much rabbit on R3, particularly in the evenings. What's needed is a Radio Three and a half which they could put on digital assuming that we had a good digital radio system... Or change Radio 3 into a proper classical music station and put the rabbit on a new digital-only station? Thats wot I said;).. David. -- Tony Sayer |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"tony sayer" wrote They simply pay for classic fm;!.. You listening to David Mellor on CFM this afternoon (now)? He gets on my nerves a bit with his hall ting dell liver E, but his shows (and picks) are top notch! Caruso and Moreschi on 78s just now - *sublime*!! :-) |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
"Ian Iveson" wrote in message ... Eiron wrote: People are having vinyl parties as well you know. We used to have shellac parties when we were kids, and make 78prm records of Joe Loss into flowerpots by leaving them in the sun (there used to be sun in the UK then) and shaping them. The older kids used them for skeet shooting :-((((( We still have sunshine in the UK, and all the data is available to show that the summers weren't long and hot, Christmas wasn't always white, and Wagon Wheels weren't any bigger than they are now. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...ata/index.html But the sun was hotter. It's a while since I've seen melted tarmac running in the gutters. Or 78's melting on the garden table:-) Iain |
It's official - LPs are on the up again!
Iain Churches wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message om... People are having vinyl parties as well you know. We used to have shellac parties when we were kids, and make 78prm records of Joe Loss into flowerpots by leaving them in the sun (there used to be sun in the UK then) and shaping them. Plenty of sun today. My 78s are melting. The problem with making flowerpots from shellac is that they wilt and turn into discs on sunny days. -- Eiron. |
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