UKRA Charter
 

This is the ukra Charter:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.audio.html

(Allegedly...)


I have a few questions:

Can anyone point to the bit that says Poochie's ****y little recording job
is in *any way* on topic?

Who is going to *frown upon* the 'Old Arguments'?

Why aren't speaker cables included in the 'Old Arguments'?

Why do people claim that crossposting is *excluded* in the Charter, when it
isn't?

Where does it say that this newsgroup belongs to Poochie?

Why doesn't anyone discuss 'hi-fi audio equipmenmt'?

Why doesn't anyone exchange 'hi-fi audio equipment'?


All these questions need answers - enquiring minds need to know!!

(Or does anybody really GAS anymore...???)

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 20:52:03 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

This is the ukra Charter:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.audio.html

(Allegedly...)


I have a few questions:

Can anyone point to the bit that says Poochie's ****y little recording job
is in *any way* on topic?

Who is going to *frown upon* the 'Old Arguments'?

Why aren't speaker cables included in the 'Old Arguments'?

Why do people claim that crossposting is *excluded* in the Charter, when it
isn't?

Where does it say that this newsgroup belongs to Poochie?

Why doesn't anyone discuss 'hi-fi audio equipmenmt'?

Why doesn't anyone exchange 'hi-fi audio equipment'?


All these questions need answers - enquiring minds need to know!!

(Or does anybody really GAS anymore...???)


Keith for pity's sake give it a rest - this is really getting stupid
now. You don't like the bloke - fine. He is in your killfile. Also
fine, but this is starting to look like obsession.

Remember I told you I might start calling you Cato the Elder?

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a11bde3.128020984@localhost...
On Mon, 18 May 2009 20:52:03 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

This is the ukra Charter:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.audio.html

(Allegedly...)


I have a few questions:

Can anyone point to the bit that says Poochie's ****y little recording job
is in *any way* on topic?

Who is going to *frown upon* the 'Old Arguments'?

Why aren't speaker cables included in the 'Old Arguments'?

Why do people claim that crossposting is *excluded* in the Charter, when
it
isn't?

Where does it say that this newsgroup belongs to Poochie?

Why doesn't anyone discuss 'hi-fi audio equipmenmt'?

Why doesn't anyone exchange 'hi-fi audio equipment'?


All these questions need answers - enquiring minds need to know!!

(Or does anybody really GAS anymore...???)


Keith for pity's sake give it a rest - this is really getting stupid
now.


Sez who? You the *moderator* now? I'm blocking more important traffic or
summat?


You don't like the bloke - fine.


I think he's a turd; he thinks he's the group's *owner*....


He is in your killfile.


Yep, so is Arny, Florence Pain and Mr Loser - but I got no problem with any
of them as nobody *quotes* them and I don't get to see their bull****!! :-)


Also
fine, but this is starting to look like obsession.


Not really - just a bit of fun, but who cares - is there summat else going
on in here that I'm not getting to see? (Like, have *you* actually started a
thread or summat? :-)

Now, take the trouble to track the threads back and see who has *routinely*
started the crap - haven't seen you tell Poochie to 'give it a rest' have
I...?

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"Don Pearce" wrote


Keith for pity's sake give it a rest - this is really getting stupid
now. You don't like the bloke - fine. He is in your killfile. Also
fine, but this is starting to look like obsession.


Hey, tell ya what Don - even with my little bits of 'rumbunctiousness' and
desperate attempts to get genuine threads rolling, it's as boring as a chalk
sandwich in here - do you think it would be better if I quietly slipped
away* and let you pouncers and the lurking types get on with it?

I only came back because I'd been told by no less than 3 present posters
that it was dead and thought I'd fizz it into a bit of activity, but I've
hit a wall of hostility and I really don't need it - not from a bunch of
over-the-hill 'audio geeks' with nothing remotely interesting or original to
say!

???


* That's *flounce* in Poochie 'twistyspeak'!

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"Keith G" wrote in message
...


Now, take the trouble to track the threads back and see who has
*routinely* started the crap - haven't seen you tell Poochie to 'give it a
rest' have I...?

That's fairly hilarious coming from Keith! AFAICS it's *usually* Keith who
"starts the crap"

David.

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"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Don Pearce" wrote


Keith for pity's sake give it a rest - this is really getting stupid
now. You don't like the bloke - fine. He is in your killfile. Also
fine, but this is starting to look like obsession.


Hey, tell ya what Don - even with my little bits of 'rumbunctiousness' and
desperate attempts to get genuine threads rolling, it's as boring as a
chalk sandwich in here - do you think it would be better if I quietly
slipped away* and let you pouncers and the lurking types get on with it?



Wakey wakey Don - you're well past your normal 8 minutes response time and I
can see Poochie's about because my 'numbers are twinkling'! (Like: 'There's
new posts - oops, no there's not, kinda thing! :-)

What's it to be - unbridled ribaldry* with me around posting about whatever
TF I feel like or the dark, turgid, *silent* stillness of the planet under
the 'Red Weed' (Pucci Power)...??

Decide quickly, or I'll decide for you!


*that's not too shabby for this time of night, is it? ;-)

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"Keith G" wrote


What's it to be - unbridled ribaldry* with me around posting about
whatever TF I feel like or the dark, turgid, *silent* stillness of the
planet under the 'Red Weed' (Pucci Power)...??

Decide quickly, or I'll decide for you!



*PING*

Times up! I'll decide....

;-)

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In article , Keith G
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote


Keith for pity's sake give it a rest - this is really getting stupid
now. You don't like the bloke - fine. He is in your killfile. Also
fine, but this is starting to look like obsession.


Hey, tell ya what Don - even with my little bits of 'rumbunctiousness'
and desperate attempts to get genuine threads rolling, it's as boring
as a chalk sandwich in here - do you think it would be better if I
quietly slipped away* and let you pouncers and the lurking types get on
with it?

Tell me Kitty, what's so important about this group that you've made it
your life's work to make it a 'busy' one? Is it the only one you can find
on Usenet?

I only came back because I'd been told by no less than 3 present posters
that it was dead and thought I'd fizz it into a bit of activity, but
I've hit a wall of hostility and I really don't need it - not from a
bunch of over-the-hill 'audio geeks' with nothing remotely interesting
or original to say!

So your cosy little email knitting circle has folded?

--
*Acupuncture is a jab well done*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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Keith G wrote:
This is the ukra Charter:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.audio.html

(Allegedly...)


Not that I paid much attention in the first place - but that does look
different - has anyone edited it?

I think AV equipment should be 'allowed' as more people use it as part
of their audio only systems; technical posts are fine; merits etc of
valves/vinyl/digital/SS fine of course; discussion of manufacturers
fine; don't understand the point on crossposting.

I can't see how a discussion can take place without the inclusion of
these aspects. In fact a lot of the discussion is about all of this -
and the better for it.

And what do 'frown' and 'lengthy flame' mean?! Strikes me that a sort of
closed club mentality might have been the original idea.

The recent issue has been group enforcers - perhaps the charter needs
reviewing?

Rob

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"Rob" wrote in message
om...
Keith G wrote:
This is the ukra Charter:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.audio.html

(Allegedly...)


Not that I paid much attention in the first place - but that does look
different - has anyone edited it?



No idea.



I think AV equipment should be 'allowed' as more people use it as part of
their audio only systems; technical posts are fine; merits etc of
valves/vinyl/digital/SS fine of course; discussion of manufacturers fine;
don't understand the point on crossposting.


With you on all of that.



I can't see how a discussion can take place without the inclusion of these
aspects. In fact a lot of the discussion is about all of this - and the
better for it.


Yep.



And what do 'frown' and 'lengthy flame' mean?! Strikes me that a sort of
closed club mentality might have been the original idea.


I don't think so, not originally - I think the closed club mentality has
evolved over the years.



The recent issue has been group enforcers - perhaps the charter needs
reviewing?


Possibly, but attitudes need to be reviewed also - nowadays, oustide of the
industry, 'audio' is dead and no amount of hokey 'my vintage amplifier hums'
BS is going to save it. Normal 'hi-fi gear' in the form of SS amps and CDPs
(if such a thing is still being produced) is all much of a muchness, all
sounds the same (we are told) and never breaks down (unless it's high-ticket
Brit stuff built by Chavs or Roumanians in East Anglia somewhere). People
get all the 'audio' they want from a number of different sources, including
stuff like the Telly, AV amps, MP3 players and mobile phones - all of which
would be 'frowned upon' and is outside the Comfort Zone of the Quad Squad
and other wannabee 'engineers' who seek to rule this newsgroup today....

AFAIAC, the burning question is 'OT better than No T..??

IOW, does this group sit in silence like frogs in a pond for days on end
until a fly happens by, asking a *strictly audio* question (which are
typically ignored, in any case) or does it chatter like a tree full of
monkeys about anything and everything, trusting a common interest in 'audio'
to keep a general audio vein running through it?

Last time I looked, there were an impossible 1000 posts a day in the UK
motorcycle newsgroup - OK, 90% of them are along 'meetoo' lines, but
generally anything and everything on and off topic was (and is being,
presumably) discussed without ever losing (that's 'loosing' for the Yanks
here) sight of the fact the main subjects in the group are 'bikes and
'biking.

Why is there *so much fear here* that wattering on about various topics in
between times (between what?) would cause such a rift in the space/time
continuum?

I see and/or hear a hundred things a day which take my interest and I might
mention in a conversation; I have posted only one or two (to fizz things up)
that I thought might have been of interest here! But I'm all out of 'audio
issues' atm, so I can't feed the furnace with nice 'audio under-arm bowling'
that I know a few here like so much. In fact, the last question I posted
that was *strictly* audio (which new SS amp?) was virtually ignored - as are
most similar quesions from 'strangers', I have noticed?

Whatever....

I think it's all about *control* and I believe I know which maggot it is
that wants that control....

;-)

From my own POV it's academic - I think this group's about as fizzed up as
it's ever going to get; the question is do I bother to hang around for it? I
sure as hell ain't going to tolerate the hostility I'm gett ing here just to
see it starting to fire on all four and seeing Iain continually grind *a
certain other* individual into pulp time and time again loses (that's....
never mind) its appeal after a while,other than to study at great length the
*hypocrisy* of the one perpetuating the OT topic, simply because he a) can't
help himself or b) it suits him to do so....

:-)

EOT.