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Phil Allison[_2_] June 30th 09 12:04 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 

"tony sayer"

Spoken like a true outback dweller. London's theatreland is crammed
with venues just yards apart, all demanding radio mics for their
performers.



** Massive RED HERRING !!


No Phil it isn't.



** Got any idea what a "red herring " is - cobber ??

Not bloody likely ........

( apologies to GBS )



...... Phil




Phil Allison[_2_] June 30th 09 12:08 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 

"tony sayer"
Phil Allison

Trantrec are UK based and offer high performance at a reasonable price
find them in the Canford catalogue...



** I looked there today - and could not see ANY low cost, multi-channel
UHF systems that were of true DIVERSITY type.

Post your example.


Might do for a start or better still phone their tech support who are
very good at that sort of thing..



** Purest ****ing gobbledegook.


BTW:

Anyone know how to get the messy stuff off one's clothing ??




..... Phil





Don Pearce[_3_] June 30th 09 12:13 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:08:31 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:


"tony sayer"
Phil Allison

Trantrec are UK based and offer high performance at a reasonable price
find them in the Canford catalogue...


** I looked there today - and could not see ANY low cost, multi-channel
UHF systems that were of true DIVERSITY type.

Post your example.


Might do for a start or better still phone their tech support who are
very good at that sort of thing..



** Purest ****ing gobbledegook.


BTW:

Anyone know how to get the messy stuff off one's clothing ??


Stop typing one-handed, then you won't have the problem in the first
place. In the meantime, nurse will clean you up later.

d

Don Pearce[_3_] June 30th 09 02:17 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:34:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article 4a52d642.1485793703@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
If you need range, go for a mic with a separate RF pack, not one built
in.


Only it it's not body worn. The body packs are allowed a higher ERP than
hand held ones - because the body soaks up RF. Some more than others.


True, you do need to pin it on your hat.

d

David Looser June 30th 09 02:21 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
David Looser wrote:
They may not have that sort of "clout", but theatre is an important
industry. I would have expected the big London theatres to put up more
of a fight with Ofcom. ISTM that this case is a good example of how the
current fashion for treating spectrum allocation as a matter of market
forces is failing society generally.


Theatres generally hire - so the problem isn't theirs.


Possibly the ones you know about do. In the world I inhabit theatre groups
generally own their own, they're pretty cheap these days after all.

ISTM that there are in fact two worlds when it comes to radio mics. The
world of TV studios and big London theatres, where performance is critical
and the world out here in the sticks where it's exceedingly unlikely that
there is another user of radio mics within interference range and where low
cost is a more important factor.

David.





Phil Allison[_2_] June 30th 09 02:54 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 

"Dave Plowman ( **** )"


** Peals before pommy SWINE - I know.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_her...y)#Red_herring


Oinkkkk...........



.... Phil





Serge Auckland[_2_] June 30th 09 03:03 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Serge Auckland
scribeth thus

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
All our OBs are really live. It's part of our profile of getting out
into
our Community. In effects what we do is to try and run as close as we
can
to
our normal programming schedule, but do it from a playing field, or as
in
last weekend, from Rougham airfield which was a WWII US Army Airforce
bomber
base just outside the town. There was the two-day Wings Wheels and Steam
Fair, with vintage aircraft flying, vintage cars and military vehicles
and
steam traction engines. Yes, it's bloody hard work but good fun.

I hadn't tried raising the antenna, I'll try that this weekend, - we've
got
two more OBs, and see what difference it makes.


What are you using for backhaul?..
S.

--
Tony Sayer


We use a pair of Tielines, http://www.tieline.com.au/ which are either
POTS
codecs where we have a telephone line, or as in this past weekend, we used
their 3G option which gave us a very solid link back to another codec in
the
studio. The link was up for 9 hours with no breakup. With POTS,


Lucky so may lines around where U want them;) Do they still have
problems with ADSL equipped lines?..


No, provided obviously you use the filter. Our receiving line is ADSL
equipped as are some of the lines we've used at the remote locations. Not
had a problem.

we have
linked 8,9,10 hours with zero problems. They have developed their own
proprietary algorithm which gives 15kHz mono of broadcast quality over a
POTS line, or 20kHz stereo over 3G /IP.


Bet that doesn't work too well once your away from the built up bit of
your neck of the woods. Every time I try to use the Voodofone dongle
thats it!.. back to GPRS:(..


Bury seems to be well provided for 3G, but my only experience is out on the
airfield, the nearest houses some 500m away. From home on my laptop, I get a
very limited signal, but still usable for web surfing and listening to our
internet stream.


--
Tony Sayer



S.

--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com


Dave Plowman (News) June 30th 09 03:05 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 
In article 4a5d1e5a.1504249890@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:34:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:


In article 4a52d642.1485793703@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
If you need range, go for a mic with a separate RF pack, not one built
in.


Only it it's not body worn. The body packs are allowed a higher ERP than
hand held ones - because the body soaks up RF. Some more than others.


True, you do need to pin it on your hat.


Yup. Or if you want the maximum range fit it to a pole of some sort to get
the advantage of ground plane.

In VHF days I remember using a mag mount transmission aerial on a car with
an ordinary body pack - and a four element Yagi as one receive aerial.
All last minute stuff. Using Microns. And got an estimated 1 mile range.
Just as well because we were running out of time. ;-)

I dunno what they do these days, but you could cover a (horse) racecourt
grandstand (using VHF) for presenters with a 4 element Yagi and and omni
mounted high for line of sight. At 10Mw output from the hand mics.

--
*Sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) June 30th 09 03:11 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 
In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
"Dave Plowman ( **** )"



** Peals before pommy SWINE - I know.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_her...y)#Red_herring



Oinkkkk...........


Philly baby, don't try and play with the big boys. You know it will end in
tears.

--
*Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Don Pearce[_3_] June 30th 09 03:21 PM

Which Radio Mic?
 
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:05:21 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article 4a5d1e5a.1504249890@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:34:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:


In article 4a52d642.1485793703@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
If you need range, go for a mic with a separate RF pack, not one built
in.

Only it it's not body worn. The body packs are allowed a higher ERP than
hand held ones - because the body soaks up RF. Some more than others.


True, you do need to pin it on your hat.


Yup. Or if you want the maximum range fit it to a pole of some sort to get
the advantage of ground plane.

In VHF days I remember using a mag mount transmission aerial on a car with
an ordinary body pack - and a four element Yagi as one receive aerial.
All last minute stuff. Using Microns. And got an estimated 1 mile range.
Just as well because we were running out of time. ;-)

I dunno what they do these days, but you could cover a (horse) racecourt
grandstand (using VHF) for presenters with a 4 element Yagi and and omni
mounted high for line of sight. At 10Mw output from the hand mics.


The shoulder held TV cameras they run up and down the touch line with
at footy matches use a 13GHz link back to the control room. The camera
has an omni antenna, and high up above the stand is a chap with a
handheld directional antenna that he keeps trained on the cameraman.
What a job...

d


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