Dave Plowman = Nutcase
 

Phil Allison wrote:

Cerainly, there are some Shure mic haters out there

Have you EVER looked at the frequency response ? It's an abomination. When I ran
my rig I REFUSED to use Shure mics. Potential clients often asked if I had
Shures but I told them the truth and we had lots of compliments at the end of
the day.

Graham


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Dave Plowman = Nutcase
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Live sound has different priorities - actual quality often coming well
down the list.

Because so many gullible people continue to use SM58s !

Graham

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Don Pearce wrote:

"TonyL" wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You're a prat. You'll never see one used for vocals in a recording
studio. Live sound has different priorities - actual quality often
coming well down the list. So add that to all the other things you
don't know.

I don't get to see Mr. Allisons posts directly but I did see a fragment in
your post.

Surely, accurate fidelity might not always be desirable. There might be
circumstances where the characteristic sound of a SM 58 might be required
to get a "live" on-stage sound. I'm also thinking of the common practice of
getting feeds from mics placed in front of overdriven guitar amp speakers.
Hardly "accurate fidelity" but much better than the dry output from an
electric guitar.

In my opinion....

When you are miking a solo voice or an individual instrument, you can
regard the mic as part of the "sound" of that source.

Maybe. Perhaps more so with vocalists who have 'unusual' intonation.


But once you are after catching an ensemble sound, you need flat and
transparent.

100% agreed.

Graham


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Dave Plowman = Nutcase
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

You're unlikely to need the noise cancelling properties of a 58 to mic up
a cabinet.

LOL ! FWIW the Shure Freaks say you must use an SM57 for miking guitars
anyway. It's 'almost' as bad as a '58 but misses some of the more extreme
failures.


For that job pretty well any half decent mic will do which can
handle the SPL.

Handling the SPL is critical in that application. Not to mention placement.
Cone edge placement for example will pick up more harmoics as a rough and
ready rule. Those people who hang the mic from the cord in front of the
speaker should be hanged themselves for total ignorance of mic use. Yummy,
look at the response 90 degrees off-axis.

Graham


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Eeyore wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

You're unlikely to need the noise cancelling properties of a 58 to mic up
a cabinet.

LOL ! FWIW the Shure Freaks say you must use an SM57 for miking guitars
anyway. It's 'almost' as bad as a '58 but misses some of the more extreme
failures.

The SM57 is suitable for miking up a cabinet. It's a general purpose
dynamic cardioid mic. But then miking up a cabinet is not a particularly
demanding task. A great many mics can be used for this. Each will
produce its own colouration, as will choosing which part of the cabinet
to point it at.

The SM58 is a variant of the SM57 designed specifically for close vocal
use. It has a built-in windshield, which is not entirely effective, and
has a built in LF roll-off filter to compensate for proximity effect.
That's why anything more than 6 inches from an SM58 sounds so bass light.

Both mics were designed over 50 years ago, at about the time microgroove
records and FM radio were just getting started, and most people still
used 78s and AM.

They both have pronounced peaks and troughs in their frequency
responses, especially in the 'presence' region, causing a distinctive
and obvious colouration.


--
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Dave Plowman = Nutcase
 

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:07:11 +0100, Richard Lamont
wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

You're unlikely to need the noise cancelling properties of a 58 to mic up
a cabinet.

LOL ! FWIW the Shure Freaks say you must use an SM57 for miking guitars
anyway. It's 'almost' as bad as a '58 but misses some of the more extreme
failures.

The SM57 is suitable for miking up a cabinet. It's a general purpose
dynamic cardioid mic. But then miking up a cabinet is not a particularly
demanding task. A great many mics can be used for this. Each will
produce its own colouration, as will choosing which part of the cabinet
to point it at.

The SM58 is a variant of the SM57 designed specifically for close vocal
use. It has a built-in windshield, which is not entirely effective, and
has a built in LF roll-off filter to compensate for proximity effect.
That's why anything more than 6 inches from an SM58 sounds so bass light.

Both mics were designed over 50 years ago, at about the time microgroove
records and FM radio were just getting started, and most people still
used 78s and AM.

They both have pronounced peaks and troughs in their frequency
responses, especially in the 'presence' region, causing a distinctive
and obvious colouration.

Yup - and this rather goes against the idea that they are general
purpose mics. They are in fact specialist mics - one trick ponies, if
you like. A general purpose mic will have a wide, flat response and
very low noise, not to mention selectable patterns.

d

Dave Plowman = Nutcase
 

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
Cerainly, there are some Shure mic haters out there

Have you EVER looked at the frequency response ? It's an abomination.
When I ran my rig I REFUSED to use Shure mics. Potential clients often
asked if I had Shures but I told them the truth and we had lots of
compliments at the end of the day.

Snag is some vocalists demand a '58 for live stuff. And an unhappy
performer being forced into using something they don't want is not a good
idea.

But I doubt our Phil has any experience of working with talent. He
wouldn't last two minutes with his attitude.

Only thing I do choose a 58 for is a snare drum - one on top and one
underneath. The peculiar frequency response quite suits it.

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Dave Plowman = Nutcase
 

"Richard Lamont"

** Strewth !!!!!!!!!

- another mind numbingly stupid pommy ****HEAD !!


The SM58 is a variant of the SM57 designed specifically for close vocal
use. It has a built-in windshield, which is not entirely effective, and
has a built in LF roll-off filter to compensate for proximity effect.


** ******** !!

Both mics have a strong proximity effect at close range.


That's why anything more than 6 inches from an SM58 sounds so bass light.


** ********.


Both mics were designed over 50 years ago, at about the time microgroove
records and FM radio were just getting started, and most people still
used 78s and AM.


** As massive " red-herrings " go, that particularly ASININE one

has got to take the ****ING CAKE !!!!!



They both have pronounced peaks and troughs in their frequency
responses,

** More asinine ******** !!


especially in the 'presence' region, causing a distinctive
and obvious colouration.


** Same alleged "coloration " exists in the vast majority

vocal mics ever sold - including the famous Sennnheiser 421.

Know nothing ****S like this pommy puke should all just

go stick their pointy AUTISTIC heads in a gas oven and suck.

ASAP.



..... Phil

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "


** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic example of ALL that is
wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is wrong with the UK.

The whole planet just loathes pommies.





...... Phil

Dave Plowman = Nutcase
 

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:37:16 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:

The SM58 is a variant of the SM57 designed specifically for close vocal
use. It has a built-in windshield, which is not entirely effective, and
has a built in LF roll-off filter to compensate for proximity effect.


** ******** !!

Both mics have a strong proximity effect at close range.


Of course they do, they are cardioids - that's why they have the LF
roll-off filter, so they have a better response up close. They are
down about 10dB at 50Hz in the far field.

d

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:40:32 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:


"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "


** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic example of ALL that is
wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is wrong with the UK.

The whole planet just loathes pommies.



Ah - that would explain all the tourists, then. I always wondered why
they seem to be smiling all the time; must actually be grimaces of
hatred.

d

Don Pearce Criminally Stupid pile of Pommy SHIT
 

" Don Pearce Criminally Stupid pile of Pommy **** "

"Phil Allison"


The SM58 is a variant of the SM57 designed specifically for close vocal
use. It has a built-in windshield, which is not entirely effective, and
has a built in LF roll-off filter to compensate for proximity effect.


** ******** !!

Both mics have a strong proximity effect at close range.

Of course they do, they are cardioids ....


** Stupid, utterly literal word for word interpreation

- no appreciation of context.





..... Phil

Dave Plowman = Nutcase
 

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
** Same alleged "coloration " exists in the vast majority

vocal mics ever sold - including the famous Sennnheiser 421.

Just another reason to keep 'vocal' mics for vocal, oh potty mouthed one.

Know nothing ****S like this pommy puke should all just
go stick their pointy AUTISTIC heads in a gas oven and suck.
ASAP.

But we do apparently know not to use 'vocal' mics for general purpose.
What's your excuse for being so ignorant?

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

"Don Pearce Total ****ing ****" "

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "


** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic example of ALL that
is
wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is wrong with the UK.

The whole planet just loathes pommies.


Ah - that would explain all the tourists, then.


** Tourists are all dumb as dog ****, autistic pukes.

They only come to see the iconic sights - ancient architechuture as per the
marketing brochures.

Throngs of vile, stinking, rude as hell pommy ****heads only spoil the
fantasy.

Only the most gullible ever come back for a second dose.




..... Phil

Dave Plowman = Nutcase
 

"Richard Lamont"

** Strewth !!!!!!!!!

- another mind numbingly stupid pommy ****HEAD !!


The SM58 is a variant of the SM57 designed specifically for close vocal
use. It has a built-in windshield, which is not entirely effective, and
has a built in LF roll-off filter to compensate for proximity effect.


** ******** !!

Both mics have a strong proximity effect at close range.


That's why anything more than 6 inches from an SM58 sounds so bass light.


** ********.


Both mics were designed over 50 years ago, at about the time microgroove
records and FM radio were just getting started, and most people still
used 78s and AM.


** As massive " red-herrings " go, that particularly ASININE one

has got to take the ****ING CAKE !!!!!


They both have pronounced peaks and troughs in their frequency
responses,

** More asinine ******** !!


especially in the 'presence' region, causing a distinctive
and obvious colouration.


** Same alleged "coloration " exists in the vast majority

vocal mics ever sold - including the famous Sennnheiser 421.

Know nothing ****S like this pommy puke should all just

go stick their pointy AUTISTIC heads in a gas oven and suck.

ASAP.




..... Phil

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:21:40 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:


"Don Pearce Total ****ing ****" "

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "


** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic example of ALL that
is
wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is wrong with the UK.

The whole planet just loathes pommies.


Ah - that would explain all the tourists, then.


** Tourists are all dumb as dog ****, autistic pukes.

They only come to see the iconic sights - ancient architechuture as per the
marketing brochures.

Throngs of vile, stinking, rude as hell pommy ****heads only spoil the
fantasy.

Only the most gullible ever come back for a second dose.


Oh I do like the fact that you just used the word "come" rather than
"go". Even you get things right sometimes.

d

Don Pearce Criminally Stupid pile of Pommy SHIT
 

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:15:15 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:


" Don Pearce Criminally Stupid pile of Pommy **** "

"Phil Allison"


The SM58 is a variant of the SM57 designed specifically for close vocal
use. It has a built-in windshield, which is not entirely effective, and
has a built in LF roll-off filter to compensate for proximity effect.


** ******** !!

Both mics have a strong proximity effect at close range.

Of course they do, they are cardioids ....


** Stupid, utterly literal word for word interpreation

- no appreciation of context.


The context here is that Shure build these mics specifically for close
vocal work. They build in a highpass filter to allow them to give a
reasonably flat output despite the huge proximity effect. Try and
understand how this works.

d

Don Pearce Criminally Stupid pile of Pommy SHIT
 

" Don Pearce Criminally Stupid pile of Pommy **** "


The SM58 is a variant of the SM57 designed specifically for close
vocal
use. It has a built-in windshield, which is not entirely effective,
and
has a built in LF roll-off filter to compensate for proximity effect.


** ******** !!

Both mics have a strong proximity effect at close range.

Of course they do, they are cardioids ....


** Stupid, utterly literal word for word interpretation

- no appreciation of context.


The context here is...


** Like all autistics retards, Don simply has no ****ing idea what the
relevant context is.

( it's only three words )

There is no point in informing him of it, cos he simply cannot see it.

Be like trying to explain the Mona Lisa to a man blind from birth.




...... Phil

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a6662f3.13144765@localhost...
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:21:40 +1000, "Phil Allison"

wrote:


"Don Pearce Total ****ing ****" "

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "


** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic
example of ALL that
is
wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is wrong
with the UK.

The whole planet just loathes pommies.


Ah - that would explain all the tourists, then.


** Tourists are all dumb as dog ****, autistic pukes.

They only come to see the iconic sights - ancient
architechuture as per the
marketing brochures.

Throngs of vile, stinking, rude as hell pommy ****heads
only spoil the
fantasy.

Only the most gullible ever come back for a second dose.


Oh I do like the fact that you just used the word "come"
rather than
"go". Even you get things right sometimes.

d

Why do you (and others) persist in attempting rational
conversation with this dysfunctional, sad little man? There
is *nothing* to be gained by being the current target of his
vile, vitriolic abuse and surely you must have better things
to do e.g. empty the cat tray, remove belly button lint,
watch paint dry etc ;-)

Cheers TT

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:39:42 +0800, "TT"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a6662f3.13144765@localhost...
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:21:40 +1000, "Phil Allison"

wrote:


"Don Pearce Total ****ing ****" "

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "


** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic
example of ALL that
is
wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is wrong
with the UK.

The whole planet just loathes pommies.


Ah - that would explain all the tourists, then.


** Tourists are all dumb as dog ****, autistic pukes.

They only come to see the iconic sights - ancient
architechuture as per the
marketing brochures.

Throngs of vile, stinking, rude as hell pommy ****heads
only spoil the
fantasy.

Only the most gullible ever come back for a second dose.


Oh I do like the fact that you just used the word "come"
rather than
"go". Even you get things right sometimes.

d

Why do you (and others) persist in attempting rational
conversation with this dysfunctional, sad little man? There
is *nothing* to be gained by being the current target of his
vile, vitriolic abuse and surely you must have better things
to do e.g. empty the cat tray, remove belly button lint,
watch paint dry etc ;-)

Cheers TT


It's like prodding snakes. Sometimes you just get bored and fancy some
fun.

d

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "
You seem very familiar with that word. Was it your diagnosis?

** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic example of ALL
that is wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is wrong with
the UK.

Don't work in the 'recording industry', pet.

The whole planet just loathes pommies.

Strange. Why do so many from OZ come here to work, then? The place is
crawling with them. Only in the jobs no one else wants, of course.

--
*Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "

You seem very familiar with that word. Was it your diagnosis?


** Being a "psychopath " is not a medical condition.

You ridiculous, know nothing, ****ing moron.



** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic example of ALL
that is wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is wrong with
the UK.

Don't work in the 'recording industry', pet.


** Retarded pommy pukes like YOU do not have jobs.


The whole planet just loathes pommies.

Strange. Why do so many from OZ come here to work, then?
The place is crawling with them.


** Absolute BULL****.




...... Phil

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...


** Retarded pommy pukes like YOU do not have jobs.
..... Philthy the unemployed


So please explain to Dave (and others) how you can't hold a
job down and have a home hobby business repairing toasters?

TT

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a6e7344.82817531@localhost...
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:39:42 +0800, "TT"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a6662f3.13144765@localhost...
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:21:40 +1000, "Phil Allison"

wrote:


"Don Pearce Total ****ing ****" "

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "


** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic
example of ALL that
is
wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is
wrong
with the UK.

The whole planet just loathes pommies.


Ah - that would explain all the tourists, then.


** Tourists are all dumb as dog ****, autistic pukes.

They only come to see the iconic sights - ancient
architechuture as per the
marketing brochures.

Throngs of vile, stinking, rude as hell pommy ****heads
only spoil the
fantasy.

Only the most gullible ever come back for a second dose.


Oh I do like the fact that you just used the word "come"
rather than
"go". Even you get things right sometimes.

d

Why do you (and others) persist in attempting rational
conversation with this dysfunctional, sad little man?
There
is *nothing* to be gained by being the current target of
his
vile, vitriolic abuse and surely you must have better
things
to do e.g. empty the cat tray, remove belly button lint,
watch paint dry etc ;-)

Cheers TT


It's like prodding snakes. Sometimes you just get bored
and fancy some
fun.

d

That's fine then ;-) I do occasionally "yank Philthy's
chain" myself as it can be a bit of fun. I was just
concerned that you were taking him too seriously and not as
the online joke he really is.

Cheers TT

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "

You seem very familiar with that word. Was it your diagnosis?


** Being a "psychopath " is not a medical condition.

Right. Is that what you've convinced yourself to stop taking your
medication?

You ridiculous, know nothing, ****ing moron.

Think you're repeating yourself...


** This TROLLING know nothing loser is a classic example of ALL
that is wrong with the recording industry and ALL that is wrong with
the UK.

Don't work in the 'recording industry', pet.


** Retarded pommy pukes like YOU do not have jobs.

Really? Wonder what paid for this rather valuable house?


The whole planet just loathes pommies.

Strange. Why do so many from OZ come here to work, then?
The place is crawling with them.


** Absolute BULL****.

All the pubs seem to have Australian barmen. Of course you don't need any
qualifications for that so ideally suited.




..... Phil

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

"Dave Plowman ( 100% Nut Case LIAR )

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath) "

You seem very familiar with that word. Was it your diagnosis?


** Being a "psychopath " is not a medical condition.

Right.


** Then no professional diagnosis is ever needed.

You anencephalic PUKE !!



You ridiculous, know nothing, ****ing moron.

Think you're repeating yourself...


** Facts like that are well worth repeating.



Don't work in the 'recording industry', pet.


** Retarded pommy pukes like YOU do not have jobs.

Really?

** Correct.



The whole planet just loathes pommies.

Strange. Why do so many from OZ come here to work, then?
The place is crawling with them.


** Absolute BULL****.

All the pubs seem to have Australian barmen.


** Aussies do like beer.

When they have enough of it - they generally like to find the nearest
pommy ****head available and beat the ****ing **** out of him.

Others here like to prey on moronic pommy backpackers -

with rifles and hunting knives.




...... Phil

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:39:30 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:

** Aussies do like beer.

When they have enough of it - they generally like to find the nearest
pommy ****head available and beat the ****ing **** out of him.

Others here like to prey on moronic pommy backpackers -

with rifles and hunting knives.



Australia just goes on getting more attractive and inviting with every
word, doesn't it?

d

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

In article 4a6adedc.175818171@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
** Aussies do like beer.

When they have enough of it - they generally like to find the
nearest pommy ****head available and beat the ****ing **** out of him.

Others here like to prey on moronic pommy backpackers -

with rifles and hunting knives.



Australia just goes on getting more attractive and inviting with every
word, doesn't it?

Indeed. Apart from those lethal Arachnids. Wonder if they're called Phil
too?

--
*Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:40:57 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article 4a6adedc.175818171@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
** Aussies do like beer.

When they have enough of it - they generally like to find the
nearest pommy ****head available and beat the ****ing **** out of him.

Others here like to prey on moronic pommy backpackers -

with rifles and hunting knives.



Australia just goes on getting more attractive and inviting with every
word, doesn't it?

Indeed. Apart from those lethal Arachnids. Wonder if they're called Phil
too?

Only the scummiest ones, I believe.

d

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a6adedc.175818171@localhost...
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:39:30 +1000, "Phil Allison"

wrote:

** Aussies do like beer.

When they have enough of it - they generally like to
find the nearest
pommy ****head available and beat the ****ing **** out of
him.

Others here like to prey on moronic pommy backpackers -

with rifles and hunting knives.



Australia just goes on getting more attractive and
inviting with every
word, doesn't it?

d

Please do not confuse my great country with the count
(silent O) you are having the delightful conversation with!
;-)

Cheers TT

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:35:41 +0800, "TT"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a6adedc.175818171@localhost...
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:39:30 +1000, "Phil Allison"

wrote:

** Aussies do like beer.

When they have enough of it - they generally like to
find the nearest
pommy ****head available and beat the ****ing **** out of
him.

Others here like to prey on moronic pommy backpackers -

with rifles and hunting knives.



Australia just goes on getting more attractive and
inviting with every
word, doesn't it?

d

Please do not confuse my great country with the count
(silent O) you are having the delightful conversation with!
;-)

Cheers TT


Don't worry - I've been there a few times, and I like it. Never once
met a Phil.

d

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

In article ,
TT wrote:
Australia just goes on getting more attractive and
inviting with every
word, doesn't it?

d

Please do not confuse my great country with the count
(silent O) you are having the delightful conversation with!
;-)

Doubt anyone does. ;-)

--
*Money isn‘t everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

TT wrote:
"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a6adedc.175818171@localhost...
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:39:30 +1000, "Phil Allison"

wrote:

** Aussies do like beer.

When they have enough of it - they generally like to
find the nearest
pommy ****head available and beat the ****ing **** out of
him.

Others here like to prey on moronic pommy backpackers -

with rifles and hunting knives.


Australia just goes on getting more attractive and
inviting with every
word, doesn't it?

d

Please do not confuse my great country with the count
(silent O) you are having the delightful conversation with!
;-)

Cheers TT


An interesting observation from filly, didn't they reckon that Milat had
an offsider?

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

TT wrote:
"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a6adedc.175818171@localhost...
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:39:30 +1000, "Phil Allison"

wrote:

** Aussies do like beer.

When they have enough of it - they generally like to
find the nearest
pommy ****head available and beat the ****ing **** out of
him.

Others here like to prey on moronic pommy backpackers -

with rifles and hunting knives.


Australia just goes on getting more attractive and
inviting with every
word, doesn't it?

d

Please do not confuse my great country with the count
(silent O) you are having the delightful conversation with!
;-)

Cheers TT


Have you not heard of the Allison Syndrome? It is a mental illness that
makes the sufferer compulsively accuse others of having a mental illness.

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

Phil Allison wrote:

Only the most gullible ever come back for a second dose.

A Zambian girl I know who travels a lot and mostly lives in the USA said of the
UK when we were chatting in a pub, "this country rocks". And she's not
gullible.

Graham


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due to the hugely increased level of spam please make the obvious adjustment to
my email address

"Dave Plowman (Psychopath)
 

"Eeyore" = " Pommy lunatic "

Phil Allison wrote:

Only the most gullible ever come back for a second dose.

A Zambian girl I know who travels a lot and mostly lives in the USA said
of the
UK when we were chatting in a pub, "this country rocks". And she's not
gullible.


** So what do all the Martians you meet in pubs say - Graham ??

ROTFLMAO !!



..... Phil