Keith G wrote:

(Didn't really think it was that simple, but then I've never stuck Blu
Tack or anything else to a headshell yet - the tongue *was* in the
cheek!! :-)

My Linn K9 came with a blob of black gunge to go between headshell and cartridge.
I hope it comes off as I've got a Shure to replace it with, when I get round to it.
Anyone know the nature of the substance?

--
Eiron

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:50:43 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

I think there is some onus on the user to pick a suitable tonearm/cartridge
combination for his own purposes or stick with manufacturer's
recommendations in the case of 'consumer' gear. It is important to keep a
perspective - over the last half century or so a lot of people have had a
lot of pleasure listening to records without getting their panties in a
bunch* over the Modulus Of Anything!!

Ah, but all that has only been possible because some engineer did get
his panties in a bunch. If nobody had, it would all be crap.

d
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"Eiron" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

(Didn't really think it was that simple, but then I've never stuck Blu
Tack or anything else to a headshell yet - the tongue *was* in the
cheek!! :-)

My Linn K9 came with a blob of black gunge to go between headshell and
cartridge.
I hope it comes off as I've got a Shure to replace it with, when I get
round to it.
Anyone know the nature of the substance?


Heatsink paste?

If you wanted only to replace the stylus on the K9 an AT95E stylus assembly
will fit - it won't look perfect but it will work perfectly well:

http://electronics.audiopervert.com/...eplacement.htm


(I confirmed that one for myself a while ago, just out of curiosity.)

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:50:43 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

I think there is some onus on the user to pick a suitable
tonearm/cartridge
combination for his own purposes or stick with manufacturer's
recommendations in the case of 'consumer' gear. It is important to keep a
perspective - over the last half century or so a lot of people have had a
lot of pleasure listening to records without getting their panties in a
bunch* over the Modulus Of Anything!!

Ah, but all that has only been possible because some engineer did get
his panties in a bunch. If nobody had, it would all be crap.



Other way round - the engineer (cartridge designer) only does his stuff -
almost certainly with completely unruffled underwear -
because of the people listening to records - no?

"Keith G" wrote

Other way round - the engineer (cartridge designer) only does his stuff -
almost certainly with completely unruffled underwear -
because of the people listening to records - no?


No.

The engineering comes first - *then* people use it to listen to records.

The first playback systems were engineered before there were any records to
listen to!

David.

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 23:31:14 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:50:43 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

I think there is some onus on the user to pick a suitable
tonearm/cartridge
combination for his own purposes or stick with manufacturer's
recommendations in the case of 'consumer' gear. It is important to keep a
perspective - over the last half century or so a lot of people have had a
lot of pleasure listening to records without getting their panties in a
bunch* over the Modulus Of Anything!!

Ah, but all that has only been possible because some engineer did get
his panties in a bunch. If nobody had, it would all be crap.



Other way round - the engineer (cartridge designer) only does his stuff -
almost certainly with completely unruffled underwear -
because of the people listening to records - no?


Chicken and egg? No, in this case it is very definitely engineer
first, listener second. And believe me, there is always a great deal
of ruffled underwear before the sleek g-string emerges from the
factory.

d

In article , Keith G
wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...

I think there is some onus on the user to pick a suitable
tonearm/cartridge combination

That means that the reviewers/designers/makers/sellers of the arm and
cartridge have to tell users the (correct) values for things like arm mass
and compliance and damping. This information generally seems not to be very
visible in my experience.


for his own purposes or stick with manufacturer's recommendations in the
case of 'consumer' gear.

That is fine if the user is happy to do as told by sellers, and that they
aren't talking twaddle for 'fashion' or indeed markup reasons.

It is important to keep a perspective - over the last half century or so
a lot of people have had a lot of pleasure listening to records without
getting their panties in a bunch* over the Modulus Of Anything!!

Indeed. And many may have missed getting results they might have preferred
as a result of not bothering to find out more or do simple checks. But it
is their time, money, and ears, so their choice. My main interest in that
is that any choices they make should be *informed* ones, by at least
knowing that it is possible to assess things and see when alternatives
might be worth considering.

I did enjoy playing music on my Dansette many decades ago. I am pleased
that since then I moved on, learned, and obtained systems that gave results
I now prefer. But if some people still enjoy using a Dansette then that is
fine with me. Just that I'd prefer them to know that there are
alternatives, and why they might be worth considering. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 23:31:14 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:50:43 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

I think there is some onus on the user to pick a suitable
tonearm/cartridge
combination for his own purposes or stick with manufacturer's
recommendations in the case of 'consumer' gear. It is important to keep
a
perspective - over the last half century or so a lot of people have had
a
lot of pleasure listening to records without getting their panties in a
bunch* over the Modulus Of Anything!!

Ah, but all that has only been possible because some engineer did get
his panties in a bunch. If nobody had, it would all be crap.



Other way round - the engineer (cartridge designer) only does his stuff -
almost certainly with completely unruffled underwear -
because of the people listening to records - no?


Chicken and egg? No, in this case it is very definitely engineer
first, listener second.



Read it again (as you would say) and see the words 'cartridge engineer' -
people were listening to records long before cartridges were invented.

(This is a *cartridge* thread... ;-)

"Keith G" wrote


Read it again (as you would say) and see the words 'cartridge engineer' -


OK, that should read *cartridge designer*....

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:17:47 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 23:31:14 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:50:43 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

I think there is some onus on the user to pick a suitable
tonearm/cartridge
combination for his own purposes or stick with manufacturer's
recommendations in the case of 'consumer' gear. It is important to keep
a
perspective - over the last half century or so a lot of people have had
a
lot of pleasure listening to records without getting their panties in a
bunch* over the Modulus Of Anything!!

Ah, but all that has only been possible because some engineer did get
his panties in a bunch. If nobody had, it would all be crap.



Other way round - the engineer (cartridge designer) only does his stuff -
almost certainly with completely unruffled underwear -
because of the people listening to records - no?


Chicken and egg? No, in this case it is very definitely engineer
first, listener second.



Read it again (as you would say) and see the words 'cartridge engineer' -
people were listening to records long before cartridges were invented.

(This is a *cartridge* thread... ;-)



Yes, but nobody got to listen to a cartridge play a record before an
engineer had sweated over it. Apart from the engineer himself, of
course. That goes for any product, of course. First you do the design
and engineering, then people get to use it. Can't be any other way,
really.

d