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Keith G[_2_] February 4th 10 01:09 PM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 

OK, here's a nice little tidbit for the techies in here, if anyone wants
it - I've got a couple of these little Tubey mic preamps:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/MicPreAmp.jpg


Which you will see have a 'third knob' for 'ART's new V3 (Variable Valve
Voicing) Technology'...???

I've always ignored it and used it 'Flat' but what does it do? What's
actually happening/being done to the signal when it is turned through the
various 'instruments'? (I'll have to have a fiddle with it sometime!)

There's more info on this eBay auction for a similar item:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ART-Tube-MP-St...em335 9dabccd


Also, see: 'Excellent as a Tube DI XLR and 1/4" Inputs' - does this mean I
would/could run a keyboard or (dare I suggest it) a digital piano through
one of these with some expectations of success?

(Swim's joanna is buzzing due to splits in the soundboard, apparently -
might mean summat digital is a quick and easy solution for simple backing
trax for the time being, if and when necessary!!)

TIA, as usual.....



bcoombes February 4th 10 01:45 PM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 
Keith G wrote:

OK, here's a nice little tidbit for the techies in here, if anyone wants
it - I've got a couple of these little Tubey mic preamps:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/MicPreAmp.jpg


Which you will see have a 'third knob' for 'ART's new V3 (Variable Valve
Voicing) Technology'...???


Interesting, the 64 dollar question is does the 'flat' setting on the VVV knob
actually bypass the processing circuitry completely...I'm a pure path fan
myself. I realise the other settings could be useful but then I know sod all
about mics and recording.

--
Bill Coombes

Keith G[_2_] February 4th 10 02:49 PM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Keith G wrote:

OK, here's a nice little tidbit for the techies in here, if anyone wants
it - I've got a couple of these little Tubey mic preamps:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/MicPreAmp.jpg


Which you will see have a 'third knob' for 'ART's new V3 (Variable Valve
Voicing) Technology'...???


Interesting, the 64 dollar question is does the 'flat' setting on the VVV
knob actually bypass the processing circuitry completely...I'm a pure path
fan myself. I realise the other settings could be useful but then I know
sod all about mics and recording.



Right on the money, Bill - I think the recent Neumann has prompted me to
revisit the recording side (of which I also know diddly-dick) and I have
suddenly *noticed* those voicing knobs!!

I'm prompted to consider upping the game a bit with a better (Neumann or
what then?) pre-amp and power supply and found this on my travels:

http://www.micshop.com/


Now, mutual lack of mic and recording knowledge notwithstanding, ain't that
a *lovely* sight?

:-)



Brian Gaff February 4th 10 06:35 PM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 
There is no such thing as flat, bypassing all the circuitry. There is always
some capacitance etc, in any circuit.

Brian

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"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Keith G wrote:

OK, here's a nice little tidbit for the techies in here, if anyone wants
it - I've got a couple of these little Tubey mic preamps:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/MicPreAmp.jpg


Which you will see have a 'third knob' for 'ART's new V3 (Variable Valve
Voicing) Technology'...???


Interesting, the 64 dollar question is does the 'flat' setting on the VVV
knob actually bypass the processing circuitry completely...I'm a pure path
fan myself. I realise the other settings could be useful but then I know
sod all about mics and recording.

--
Bill Coombes




Iain Churches[_2_] February 4th 10 06:40 PM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

OK, here's a nice little tidbit for the techies in here, if anyone wants
it - I've got a couple of these little Tubey mic preamps:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/MicPreAmp.jpg


Which you will see have a 'third knob' for 'ART's new V3 (Variable Valve
Voicing) Technology'...???

I've always ignored it and used it 'Flat' but what does it do? What's
actually happening/being done to the signal when it is turned through the
various 'instruments'? (I'll have to have a fiddle with it sometime!)


Having a fiddle with it will probably tell you immediately what
the presets are. Perthaps they have built in EQ and or compression?

There's more info on this eBay auction for a similar item:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ART-Tube-MP-St...em335 9dabccd


Also, see: 'Excellent as a Tube DI XLR and 1/4" Inputs' - does this mean
I would/could run a keyboard or (dare I suggest it) a digital piano
through one of these with some expectations of success?


Yes. Switch off the phantom before plugging in or out.
There is a gain control bottom left.

Have fun

Iain




bcoombes February 4th 10 06:46 PM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 
Brian Gaff wrote:
Keith G wrote:

OK, here's a nice little tidbit for the techies in here, if anyone wants
it - I've got a couple of these little Tubey mic preamps:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/MicPreAmp.jpg


Which you will see have a 'third knob' for 'ART's new V3 (Variable Valve
Voicing) Technology'...???


Interesting, the 64 dollar question is does the 'flat' setting on the VVV
knob actually bypass the processing circuitry completely...I'm a pure path
fan myself. I realise the other settings could be useful but then I know
sod all about mics and recording.



There is no such thing as flat, bypassing all the circuitry. There is always
some capacitance etc, in any circuit.


I was referring to the VVV processing circuit [fairly obviously]. In the pure
path sense bypassing is usually taken to mean removing source switching,
tone/loudness and balance controls from the circuit.

BTW, why do you top post? It's not big and it's not clever.


--
Bill Coombes

David Kennedy February 4th 10 07:51 PM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 
bcoombes wrote:

BTW, why do you top post? It's not big and it's not clever.


Did you miss this bit?

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in the display name may be lost.
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--
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http://www.anindianinexile.com

bcoombes February 4th 10 08:08 PM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 
David Kennedy wrote:
bcoombes wrote:

BTW, why do you top post? It's not big and it's not clever.


Did you miss this bit?

Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name may be lost.
Blind user, so no pictures please!



Maybe I did, how does that work then?

--
Bill Coombes

Keith G[_2_] February 4th 10 09:10 PM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

OK, here's a nice little tidbit for the techies in here, if anyone wants
it - I've got a couple of these little Tubey mic preamps:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/MicPreAmp.jpg


Which you will see have a 'third knob' for 'ART's new V3 (Variable Valve
Voicing) Technology'...???

I've always ignored it and used it 'Flat' but what does it do? What's
actually happening/being done to the signal when it is turned through the
various 'instruments'? (I'll have to have a fiddle with it sometime!)


Having a fiddle with it will probably tell you immediately what
the presets are. Perthaps they have built in EQ and or compression?



A fiddle it's going to have to be!! :-)



Also, see: 'Excellent as a Tube DI XLR and 1/4" Inputs' - does this mean
I would/could run a keyboard or (dare I suggest it) a digital piano
through one of these with some expectations of success?


Yes. Switch off the phantom before plugging in or out.
There is a gain control bottom left.

Have fun




OK, here's tonight's fun - Swim Bo got a Duets book today, so here she is
playing with hers... - never mind:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...derleyDuet.wav

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...heMoonDuet.wav


Hideous yet strangely compelling, eh?

:-)

I can't tell you what a faff they were to do with only two tracks to play
with and having to stretch tracks to match on one of them- first job was
record the bloody metronome (twice)!!

Now, breaking news: Amazon MP3 anyone?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/b/?ie=UTF8&n...l_7hr7gagohn_e


Or is it old hat?

(I wonder if they got mine and decided to start a new business section with
them???)




Arny Krueger February 5th 10 12:42 AM

Tubey techy tidbit.....
 
"Keith G" wrote in message


Also, see: 'Excellent as a Tube DI XLR and 1/4" Inputs'
- does this mean I would/could run a keyboard or (dare I
suggest it) a digital piano through one of these with
some expectations of success?


Yes. There's no need to worry about the phantom voltage setting because the
user manual states that the phantom power is only available on the XLR
input.

http://www.artproaudio.com/downloads...tubempstv3.pdf

"¼" INPUT JACK
The ¼" Input jack is for instrument and line level inputs. It has a high
input impedance to minimize any loading effects on instrument
pickups. It can also handle up to +22 dBu signals for line level signals.
Though not normally suggested, both input jacks can be used
simultaneously, in a pinch, to sum two signals. The signal present at
the XLR jack will tend to attenuate the signal of the ¼" input.

"XLR INPUT JACK
The XLR Input jack is primarily intended for microphone input, and as
such can furnish Phantom Power when needed. It can handle up to
+14 dBu signals, which is the hottest signal you would get out of any
microphone. For even hotter input signals, you should use the ¼" input
jack. The XLR Input jacks medium input impedance is extremely flat
over a wide frequency range, which allows it to be musically neutral to
virtually any microphone (one of the Tube MP Studio V3T's lesser
known secrets)




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