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Jim Lesurf[_2_] August 17th 10 04:46 PM

dilemma, speaker decision for different amplifiers
 
In article , notme
wrote:
hello everyone i am in a lucky position as a relative left me all his
gear(before he departed for other shores) amplifiers with valves in them
the biggest being a beard 100, leak tl20, musical fidelity with huge
black knobs and separate power,scott 299, quad 2,quad33/303 (which i am
using at the moment).


My first reaction is that it is a shame that he didn't also leave you some
upper case letters - and a return key to apply and create paragraphs. 8-]
However maybe you had to write your posting on something like a tiny phone
with no shift or return keys. Alas, the way your posting appears makes it
hard for me to read and that may reduce my ability to decypher the details.
But I will try to give a response in a format closer to normal written
English - ahem or at least as close as I personally can manage. :-)

cf below.

[snip]

i am a bit puzzled about this the lowest power amplifier (leak tl20) i
think is 10 w1tts and when i have hocked it up to the 352 i have to be
conscious of the neighbours, if 10 watts is that loud 25 watts would
rightly have the neighbours complaining,


First point to note is that 25 watts with the same speakers isn't that much
louder than 10. And such ratings can sometimes be misleading.

Second is that how loud the speakers sound will depend on their rated
'sensitivity' not just any power rating. And, as above, a factor of two or
so won't make as much difference as you may think.

Hence from what you write I'd suspect that you would find a fair range
of speakers would give you as much loudness as you (and your neighbours!)
wish. All you'd need to do is adjust the volume control to suit.

So the bottom line is that the choice mainly depends on what *you* decide
you like the sound of, playing *your* taste in music at the level *you*
prefer in the acoustic of the room *you* are using.

To advise, others here may find it useful if you say something about your
taste in music and how much you'd expect to pay for new speakers. Also any
preferences between floor standing or stand mounted types, etc.

If you liked the 352s before the rasping, then you might consider seeing if
they can be repaired. If so, Monitor Audio may be worth asking about that.
Alternatively, others here may be able to point you at someone else who can
supply replacements or repair them. I'm sure MA would also happily tell you
which of their current models they'd urge you to buy. :-)


Slainte,

Jim

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Dave Plowman (News) August 18th 10 10:58 PM

dilemma, speaker decision for different amplifiers
 
In article ,
Fed Up Lurker wrote:
My first reaction is that it is a shame that he didn't also leave you
some upper case letters - and a return key to apply and create
paragraphs. 8-] However maybe you had to write your posting on
something like a tiny phone with no shift or return keys. Alas, the
way your posting appears makes it hard for me to read and that may
reduce my ability to decypher the details. But I will try to give a
response in a format closer to normal written English - ahem or at
least as close as I personally can manage. :-)


Whoa Jim, are you feeling stressed?


That 'style' of writing would stress a saint.

The posters question was easily understood........


If you can be bothered deciphering it. Personally, I couldn't.

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David Looser August 19th 10 07:15 AM

dilemma, speaker decision for different amplifiers
 
"Fed Up Lurker" wrote

Whoa Jim, are you feeling stressed?
The posters question was easily understood........


But only after the reader had done the work that the OP was too lazy to do,
such as dividing the post into paragraphs, finding the beginnings and ends
of sentences and expanding the abbreviations into actual words.

David.



Jim Lesurf[_2_] August 19th 10 09:18 AM

dilemma, speaker decision for different amplifiers
 
In article , Fed Up Lurker
wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , notme
wrote:
hello everyone i am in a lucky position as a relative left me all his
gear(before he departed for other shores) amplifiers with valves in
them the biggest being a beard 100, leak tl20, musical fidelity with
huge black knobs and separate power,scott 299, quad 2,quad33/303
(which i am using at the moment).


My first reaction is that it is a shame that he didn't also leave you
some upper case letters - and a return key to apply and create
paragraphs. 8-]


Whoa Jim, are you feeling stressed? The posters question was easily
understood........


You may be assuming my eyesight is as good as yours. :-) That seems
unlikely as it is nowdays a major problem for me to see well enough to do
simple tasks like soldering, and poorly laid out text (quite literally)
makes my eyes hurt and water. *Physically* hard to read. My point therefore
is that it is a matter of 'good manners' and showing consideration for
others to think about how you ask them to read and help you.



If you liked the 352s before the rasping, then you might consider
seeing if they can be repaired. If so, Monitor Audio may be worth
asking about that.


No, not a good idea, there are numerous easy and affordable solutions to
the original posters question,


Well, the speakers probably wouldn't suit me. But the OP indicated he liked
them. So the question is really what suits him since people have varying
preferences.

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim Lesurf[_2_] August 19th 10 09:26 AM

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In article , David Looser
wrote:
"Fed Up Lurker" wrote

Whoa Jim, are you feeling stressed? The posters question was easily
understood........


But only after the reader had done the work that the OP was too lazy to
do, such as dividing the post into paragraphs, finding the beginnings
and ends of sentences and expanding the abbreviations into actual words.


FWIW I don't doubt that many people had no problem with reading the OPs
posting(s). However from personal experience I know that some people (i.e.
inc. me!) find such text very hard to read. Given the OP has said he is 72
years old it seems odd that this either didn't occur to him, or he didn't
give a damn. Maybe he assumes anyone who is retired and crumbling isn't
worth caring about as they wouldn't be able to help him. :-)

As I said earlier I can see that there are cases when decent formatting is
impractical - e.g. using a mobile device that isn't designed to produce
normal text. But the use of upper case letters and the return key on normal
keyboards aren't exactly brain surgery. 8-]

Despite that I did take the time to work though his posting and try to give
some useful comments. And I hope the info people have given him proves
helpful.

Slainte,

Jim

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Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html


David Looser August 19th 10 11:41 AM

dilemma, speaker decision for different amplifiers
 
"Jim Lesurf" wrote

However from personal experience I know that some people (i.e.
inc. me!) find such text very hard to read.


It's harder to read than a well written post for anyone!

Given the OP has said he is 72
years old it seems odd that this either didn't occur to him, or he didn't
give a damn.


I was surprised when he said that he was 72, as the post looked like the
sort of thing I'd expect from a teenager who was brought up on
text-messaging.

David.



Jim Lesurf[_2_] August 19th 10 02:15 PM

dilemma, speaker decision for different amplifiers
 
In article , David Looser
wrote:

I was surprised when he said that he was 72, as the post looked like the
sort of thing I'd expect from a teenager who was brought up on
text-messaging.


Maybe there is no 'half' symbol key on his phone, so he used '2' as being
the nearest to the meaning. :-)

Yes, it does read like text-messaging from a tiny mobile device, typed with
two thumbs. But the header says Forte Agent.

Slainte,

Jim

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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html


Dave Plowman (News) August 19th 10 03:37 PM

dilemma, speaker decision for different amplifiers
 
In article ,
David Looser wrote:
I was surprised when he said that he was 72, as the post looked like the
sort of thing I'd expect from a teenager who was brought up on
text-messaging.


Second childhood?

I rather dislike 'texting' from my phone, but of course sometimes it's
convenient. But if I can I'll do it from this computer. ;-)

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Ian Iveson August 22nd 10 04:48 AM

dilemma, speaker decision for different amplifiers
 
Jim Lesurf wrote:

I was surprised when he said that he was 72, as the post
looked like the
sort of thing I'd expect from a teenager who was brought
up on
text-messaging.


Maybe there is no 'half' symbol key on his phone, so he
used '2' as being
the nearest to the meaning. :-)

Yes, it does read like text-messaging from a tiny mobile
device, typed with
two thumbs. But the header says Forte Agent.


I've seen this kind of writing in books. American or Irish
maybe, can't remember. I think you're supposed to feel like
you're in the author's head, having his thoughts.

Freaky.

Who was the guy in Catch 22 who kept marbles in his mouth?
The stupidest-looking guy gets away with the biggest con.

Stream-of-consciousness is a nice touch...just for that
moment you can be the OP, feel the naive vulnerability
directly in your head, beyond question.

"im old and stupid why dont you try con me out of my
inheritance im so easy you dont need to be careful just send
me some money on the sly"

Ian



Fed Up Lurker[_3_] August 22nd 10 05:53 PM

dilemma, speaker decision for different amplifiers
 

"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
news:i_1co.148015$qO1.143052@hurricane...
,snip

I've seen this kind of writing in books. American or Irish maybe, can't
remember. I think you're supposed to feel like you're in the author's
head, having his thoughts.

Freaky.

Who was the guy in Catch 22 who kept marbles in his mouth? The
stupidest-looking guy gets away with the biggest con.

Stream-of-consciousness is a nice touch...just for that moment you can be
the OP, feel the naive vulnerability directly in your head, beyond
question.


That was a very spiteful and pointless post.





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