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Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now
announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:39:08 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. Slainte, Jim I'm guessing you've read this, but for those who haven't: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researcha...the-tech.shtml d |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. Slainte, Jim Yes .. so those with poor and intermitted net connections will no doubt have dropped and interrupted listening. Pity as suggested they didn't up the rates on satellite, much simpler cheaper and less wiring and no need for the PC in the living room as well as neigh on national coverage.... -- Tony Sayer |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , tony sayer
wrote: In article , Jim Lesurf scribeth thus Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. Yes .. so those with poor and intermitted net connections will no doubt have dropped and interrupted listening. IIUC The 320kb will be provided as an 'HD Radio' alternative choice to a 'standard' lower rate. However I did experience about one or two 'interruptions' per hour with the 320kb experiment. So I'm hoping this aspect will be improved. I'm currently having my connection 'retrained' to see if that may help. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. The BBC spokesman on R4 PM yesterday said it involved a complete new route from source to listener. I find this very hard to believe. They played a clip on PM in 'normal and HD' which Eddie Mair said was like night and day. ;-) I was in the workshop - so only listening casually, albeit on a reasonable system fed from FreeView, and did think the HD clip had better ambience. But perhaps just the power of suggestion... -- *Not all men are annoying. Some are dead. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , Jim wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. The BBC spokesman on R4 PM yesterday said it involved a complete new route from source to listener. I find this very hard to believe. They played a clip on PM in 'normal and HD' which Eddie Mair said was like night and day. ;-) I was in the workshop - so only listening casually, albeit on a reasonable system fed from FreeView, and did think the HD clip had better ambience. But perhaps just the power of suggestion... It sounded good on the FM radio in the car while driving home. :-) -- Eiron. |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote: In article , Jim Lesurf wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. The BBC spokesman on R4 PM yesterday said it involved a complete new route from source to listener. I find this very hard to believe. If that was Rupert Brun I can't say I recall him saying exactly that. And I'm sure he knows how it is done. But I'll have a check on what he said when I can via... Listen Again. :-) My understanding (inc some info from the BBC) is that they are simply using the Coyopa systems with the higher rate settings. They played a clip on PM in 'normal and HD' which Eddie Mair said was like night and day. ;-) IIRC Rupert Brun then pointed out that although it may have been obvious in the studio, home listeners may not have been able to hear any difference as it needed a suitably (XHQ) route. I think the interview I heard was in the last 10 mins of the program. So I'd recommend others also give it a listen to find out what was said. I found what was said by Rupert Brun fairly decent. But I may have missed something as I heard it whilst doing something else. I was in the workshop - so only listening casually, albeit on a reasonable system fed from FreeView, and did think the HD clip had better ambience. Can't say I heard any difference in the demo on the program. But perhaps just the power of suggestion... Stay tuned. :-) Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , Eiron
wrote: On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , Jim wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. The BBC spokesman on R4 PM yesterday said it involved a complete new route from source to listener. I find this very hard to believe. They played a clip on PM in 'normal and HD' which Eddie Mair said was like night and day. ;-) I was in the workshop - so only listening casually, albeit on a reasonable system fed from FreeView, and did think the HD clip had better ambience. But perhaps just the power of suggestion... It sounded good on the FM radio in the car while driving home. :-) Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream? I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote: I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. I didn't notice any problems during "Pictures at an Exhibition" and enjoyed the sound quality. Stephen |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In message , Jim Lesurf
writes In article , Eiron wrote: On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , Jim wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. The BBC spokesman on R4 PM yesterday said it involved a complete new route from source to listener. I find this very hard to believe. They played a clip on PM in 'normal and HD' which Eddie Mair said was like night and day. ;-) I was in the workshop - so only listening casually, albeit on a reasonable system fed from FreeView, and did think the HD clip had better ambience. But perhaps just the power of suggestion... It sounded good on the FM radio in the car while driving home. :-) Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream? I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. In this context, what does 'HD' stand for? -- Ian |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:18:26 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:
Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream? I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. The two Proms concerts I listened to on the 'high quality' had no audible glitches. |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote: In message , Jim Lesurf writes In article , Eiron wrote: On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , Jim wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. In this context, what does 'HD' stand for? I think the BBC are going to call the new 320k stream(s) "HD Radio" to distinguish them from the established 192k/128k AAC streams. (Which I think will continue.) Presumably to avoid confusing non-'technical' listeners with numbers like "320kb/sec". :-) So just a name people can use. It was sometimes called 'XHQ' or 'XHX' [1] during the tests. But I suppose 'HD Radio' makes more sense as a way of describing this in the context of HD TV also being tested and rolled out. Reminds me of seeing a Peanuts cartoon from decades ago that referred to a "HiFi skip(ping) rope" to lampoon the way 'HiFi' was picked up as a buzz phrase when HiFi started to become known to people. ...and a few weeks ago I saw an advert for a carpet that was said to be an 'HD carpet' to try and tell us the pattern was very detailed. ;- Slainte, Jim [1] eXtra High Quality or eXtra High-quality eXperiment, I presume. -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:18:26 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote: In article , Eiron wrote: On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , Jim wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. The BBC spokesman on R4 PM yesterday said it involved a complete new route from source to listener. I find this very hard to believe. They played a clip on PM in 'normal and HD' which Eddie Mair said was like night and day. ;-) I was in the workshop - so only listening casually, albeit on a reasonable system fed from FreeView, and did think the HD clip had better ambience. But perhaps just the power of suggestion... It sounded good on the FM radio in the car while driving home. :-) Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream? I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. Can't remember if you said at the time, but were the gaps pauses, picking up again where you left off - or were they actually missing bits? d |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , Don Pearce
wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:18:26 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote: I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. Can't remember if you said at the time, but were the gaps pauses, picking up again where you left off - or were they actually missing bits? Good question. :-) They were (mainly) pauses despite it being a live stream... Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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In article , Chris
Isbell wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:18:26 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote: Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream? I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. The two Proms concerts I listened to on the 'high quality' had no audible glitches. Which concerts/pieces? Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus In article , Eiron wrote: On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , Jim wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. The BBC spokesman on R4 PM yesterday said it involved a complete new route from source to listener. I find this very hard to believe. They played a clip on PM in 'normal and HD' which Eddie Mair said was like night and day. ;-) I was in the workshop - so only listening casually, albeit on a reasonable system fed from FreeView, and did think the HD clip had better ambience. But perhaps just the power of suggestion... It sounded good on the FM radio in the car while driving home. :-) Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream? I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. Yes heard gaps and put that down to net congestion.. Which seems to be getting worse as time goes on... Slainte, Jim -- Tony Sayer |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus In article , Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Jim Lesurf writes In article , Eiron wrote: On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , Jim wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. In this context, what does 'HD' stand for? I think the BBC are going to call the new 320k stream(s) "HD Radio" to distinguish them from the established 192k/128k AAC streams. (Which I think will continue.) Presumably to avoid confusing non-'technical' listeners with numbers like "320kb/sec". :-) So just a name people can use. It was sometimes called 'XHQ' or 'XHX' [1] during the tests. But I suppose 'HD Radio' makes more sense as a way of describing this in the context of HD TV also being tested and rolled out. Reminds me of seeing a Peanuts cartoon from decades ago that referred to a "HiFi skip(ping) rope" to lampoon the way 'HiFi' was picked up as a buzz phrase when HiFi started to become known to people. ...and a few weeks ago I saw an advert for a carpet that was said to be an 'HD carpet' to try and tell us the pattern was very detailed. ;- They have HD radio in the USofA except it isn't that hi definition 96 K AAC IIRC... -- Tony Sayer |
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In message , tony sayer
writes In article , Jim Lesurf scribeth thus In article , Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Jim Lesurf writes In article , Eiron wrote: On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , Jim wrote: Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. In this context, what does 'HD' stand for? I think the BBC are going to call the new 320k stream(s) "HD Radio" to distinguish them from the established 192k/128k AAC streams. (Which I think will continue.) Presumably to avoid confusing non-'technical' listeners with numbers like "320kb/sec". :-) So just a name people can use. It was sometimes called 'XHQ' or 'XHX' [1] during the tests. But I suppose 'HD Radio' makes more sense as a way of describing this in the context of HD TV also being tested and rolled out. Reminds me of seeing a Peanuts cartoon from decades ago that referred to a "HiFi skip(ping) rope" to lampoon the way 'HiFi' was picked up as a buzz phrase when HiFi started to become known to people. ...and a few weeks ago I saw an advert for a carpet that was said to be an 'HD carpet' to try and tell us the pattern was very detailed. ;- They have HD radio in the USofA except it isn't that hi definition 96 K AAC IIRC... Yebbut..... HD is 'Hybrid Digital'. It could sound awful! -- Ian |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , tony sayer
wrote: In article , Jim Lesurf scribeth thus I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. Yes heard gaps and put that down to net congestion.. Which seems to be getting worse as time goes on... Which concerts? I'm curious to know if we may have heard gaps at the same times. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:49:25 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Chris Isbell wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:18:26 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote: Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream? I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they occurred. The two Proms concerts I listened to on the 'high quality' had no audible glitches. Which concerts/pieces? Slainte, Jim Proms 64 and 70. Guess my musical preferences.;-) Cheers, Chris. |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
In article , Chris
Isbell wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:49:25 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote: In article , Chris Isbell wrote: The two Proms concerts I listened to on the 'high quality' had no audible glitches. Which concerts/pieces? Slainte, Jim Proms 64 and 70. 64 = W.F.Bach, Arne, Pergolesi 70 = Handel, Vivaldi, Telemann, Porpora Guess my musical preferences.;-) Hmmm. Difficult. :-) Alas, your choice wasn't the same as mine. For the 320k stream test I used 67, 71, 74, and 76 (naturally), plus one of the Chamber Music proms. I guess the Chamber one (Music from Venice) might be closer to your taste than a lot of the rest. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Radio 3 'XHQ'
Le 18/10/2010 18:39, Jim Lesurf a écrit :
Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the iPlayer. Slainte, Jim Unfortunately not for us poor s*ds who live abroad..... -- Froggy "Les cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît." Michel Audiard, "Les Tontons Flingueurs" (1963) |
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