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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0000, "Keith G"
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test

test test

The echo seems to work ok.


My newsreader news.eternal-september.org is playing up and won;t allow me to
reply to some posts here - hence replying to my own reply which seemed to
have worked! Now to see if it will allow me to post this!

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:07:05 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Keith G" wrote in message
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test

test test

The echo seems to work ok.


My newsreader news.eternal-september.org is playing up and won;t allow me to
reply to some posts here - hence replying to my own reply which seemed to
have worked! Now to see if it will allow me to post this!

I'm using eternal september too. I haven't noticed any problems apart
from the odd failure to open any kind of connection at all.

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:07:05 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

test

test test

The echo seems to work ok.


My newsreader news.eternal-september.org is playing up and won;t allow me
to
reply to some posts here - hence replying to my own reply which seemed to
have worked! Now to see if it will allow me to post this!

I'm using eternal september too. I haven't noticed any problems apart
from the odd failure to open any kind of connection at all.


I tried to reply to Bob Latham and got refused with the reason 'header too
long' being given on a number of occasions and 'duplicate message' on
others. Nothing has/had been changed or is out of the ordinary on this
machine!

My reply to Bob was along the lines that the cheap USB decks (includes a not
so cheap Denon model, I believe) would be well up to creating a maybe
somewhat 'lesser' copy of the music for on the move; I would not need a cdr
replacement for occasions when I would actually play the LP. Also to add I
don't have any problem with Linn decks.

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:07:05 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

test

test test

The echo seems to work ok.


My newsreader news.eternal-september.org is playing up and won;t allow me
to
reply to some posts here - hence replying to my own reply which seemed to
have worked! Now to see if it will allow me to post this!

I'm using eternal september too. I haven't noticed any problems apart
from the odd failure to open any kind of connection at all.


I tried to reply to Bob Latham and got refused with the reason 'header too
long' being given on a number of occasions and 'duplicate message' on
others. Nothing has/had been changed or is out of the ordinary on this
machine!

My reply to Bob was along the lines that the cheap USB decks (includes a
not so cheap Denon model, I believe) would be well up to creating a maybe
somewhat 'lesser' copy of the music for on the move; I would not need a
cdr replacement for occasions when I would actually play the LP. Also to
add I don't have any problem with Linn decks.

Just tried a direct reply to Bob again and it still won't have it - no idea
what's going on!

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:30:48 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:07:05 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

test

test test

The echo seems to work ok.


My newsreader news.eternal-september.org is playing up and won;t allow me
to
reply to some posts here - hence replying to my own reply which seemed to
have worked! Now to see if it will allow me to post this!

I'm using eternal september too. I haven't noticed any problems apart
from the odd failure to open any kind of connection at all.


I tried to reply to Bob Latham and got refused with the reason 'header too
long' being given on a number of occasions and 'duplicate message' on
others. Nothing has/had been changed or is out of the ordinary on this
machine!

My reply to Bob was along the lines that the cheap USB decks (includes a not
so cheap Denon model, I believe) would be well up to creating a maybe
somewhat 'lesser' copy of the music for on the move; I would not need a cdr h
replacement for occasions when I would actually play the LP. Also to add I
don't have any problem with Linn decks.

OK. I've never seen anything like that. Quite often it is a problem
with the programme you are using - all of a sudden it decides to start
posting illegal characters.

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:30:48 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:07:05 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

test

test test

The echo seems to work ok.


My newsreader news.eternal-september.org is playing up and won;t allow
me
to
reply to some posts here - hence replying to my own reply which seemed
to
have worked! Now to see if it will allow me to post this!

I'm using eternal september too. I haven't noticed any problems apart
from the odd failure to open any kind of connection at all.


I tried to reply to Bob Latham and got refused with the reason 'header too
long' being given on a number of occasions and 'duplicate message' on
others. Nothing has/had been changed or is out of the ordinary on this
machine!

My reply to Bob was along the lines that the cheap USB decks (includes a
not
so cheap Denon model, I believe) would be well up to creating a maybe
somewhat 'lesser' copy of the music for on the move; I would not need a
cdr h
replacement for occasions when I would actually play the LP. Also to add I
don't have any problem with Linn decks.

OK. I've never seen anything like that. Quite often it is a problem
with the programme you are using - all of a sudden it decides to start
posting illegal characters.


It's a bit unnerving when it just decides to fight you and you haven't made
any changes to the programme (settings etc.)!

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:40:41 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:30:48 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:07:05 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

test

test test

The echo seems to work ok.


My newsreader news.eternal-september.org is playing up and won;t allow
me
to
reply to some posts here - hence replying to my own reply which seemed
to
have worked! Now to see if it will allow me to post this!

I'm using eternal september too. I haven't noticed any problems apart
from the odd failure to open any kind of connection at all.


I tried to reply to Bob Latham and got refused with the reason 'header too
long' being given on a number of occasions and 'duplicate message' on
others. Nothing has/had been changed or is out of the ordinary on this
machine!

My reply to Bob was along the lines that the cheap USB decks (includes a
not
so cheap Denon model, I believe) would be well up to creating a maybe
somewhat 'lesser' copy of the music for on the move; I would not need a
cdr h
replacement for occasions when I would actually play the LP. Also to add I
don't have any problem with Linn decks.

OK. I've never seen anything like that. Quite often it is a problem
with the programme you are using - all of a sudden it decides to start
posting illegal characters.


It's a bit unnerving when it just decides to fight you and you haven't made
any changes to the programme (settings etc.)!



Just had a quick poke around google for forums discussing Microsoft
Mail as a newsreader. I know these places tend to distill all the
problems, but I would say you have got off lightly so far.

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:40:41 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:30:48 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:07:05 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0000, "Keith G"

wrote:


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

test

test test

The echo seems to work ok.


My newsreader news.eternal-september.org is playing up and won;t allow
me
to
reply to some posts here - hence replying to my own reply which seemed
to
have worked! Now to see if it will allow me to post this!

I'm using eternal september too. I haven't noticed any problems apart
from the odd failure to open any kind of connection at all.


I tried to reply to Bob Latham and got refused with the reason 'header
too
long' being given on a number of occasions and 'duplicate message' on
others. Nothing has/had been changed or is out of the ordinary on this
machine!

My reply to Bob was along the lines that the cheap USB decks (includes a
not
so cheap Denon model, I believe) would be well up to creating a maybe
somewhat 'lesser' copy of the music for on the move; I would not need a
cdr h
replacement for occasions when I would actually play the LP. Also to add
I
don't have any problem with Linn decks.

OK. I've never seen anything like that. Quite often it is a problem
with the programme you are using - all of a sudden it decides to start
posting illegal characters.


It's a bit unnerving when it just decides to fight you and you haven't
made
any changes to the programme (settings etc.)!



Just had a quick poke around google for forums discussing Microsoft
Mail as a newsreader. I know these places tend to distill all the
problems, but I would say you have got off lightly so far.


My problem is I've no idea how to fix anything like this. I'm heavily
dependent on these progs working properly as it seems to have done up 'til
now!

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Keith G said...

My problem is I've no idea how to fix anything like this. I'm heavily
dependent on these progs working properly as it seems to have done up 'til
now!

Give Gravity a try, much easier to set up, configure and use than WM.
http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/


--
Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

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"Bob Latham" wrote

The comment about my Linn LP12/Ittok wasn't aimed at you, more the
puritans who don't seem to understand that it is possible to prefer
something that isn't perfect to that which supposedly is.

Where on earth do you get the idea that those of us who prefer CD are
"puritans"?

Compared to LP CD is cheaper, easier to get hold of, easier to store and
play. Furthermore it doesn't require so much care in handling and is usable
in portable and car players.

Compared to all that LP would have to be significantly better in performance
terms to be worth bothering with. Given that it's actually worse there's no
contest IMO.

David.

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"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
m...
Keith G said...

My problem is I've no idea how to fix anything like this. I'm heavily
dependent on these progs working properly as it seems to have done up
'til
now!

Give Gravity a try, much easier to set up, configure and use than WM.
http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/


Thanks Ken, I'll try to set up a separate newsfeed account alongside
eternal-september.

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"Bob Latham" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:

My reply to Bob was along the lines that the cheap USB decks (includes a
not so cheap Denon model, I believe) would be well up to creating a
maybe somewhat 'lesser' copy of the music for on the move; I would not
need a cdr replacement for occasions when I would actually play the LP.
Also to add I don't have any problem with Linn decks.

I don't use music on the move much Keith but I am looking towards getting
my music on a NAS box and an ethernet connection to some reader that gives
spdif out to feed my Arcam AV8.


OK.




The comment about my Linn LP12/Ittok wasn't aimed at you, more the
puritans who don't seem to understand that it is possible to prefer
something that isn't perfect to that which supposedly is.


No worries, I didn't take the comment personally - my remark meant quite
simply I'm not a Linn-basher and although I don't use Linn myself I've got
no problem with anyone who does and/or is enthusiastic about it!

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"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
m...
Keith G said...

My problem is I've no idea how to fix anything like this. I'm heavily
dependent on these progs working properly as it seems to have done up
'til
now!

Give Gravity a try, much easier to set up, configure and use than WM.
http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/



What news server address do I use, Ken?

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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Bob Latham" wrote

The comment about my Linn LP12/Ittok wasn't aimed at you, more the
puritans who don't seem to understand that it is possible to prefer
something that isn't perfect to that which supposedly is.

Where on earth do you get the idea that those of us who prefer CD are
"puritans"?

Compared to LP CD is cheaper, easier to get hold of, easier to store and
play. Furthermore it doesn't require so much care in handling and is
usable in portable and car players.

Compared to all that LP would have to be significantly better in
performance terms to be worth bothering with. Given that it's actually
worse there's no contest IMO.


David no sane person could contest your arguments about the superiority of
CD over LP in many respects but the truth for some of us is nothing beats
putting on a record. It's almost a certainty that virtually every 'vinylist'
has a collection of CDs as well: there are hundreds here in various places
about the house....

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:34:15 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
om...
Keith G said...

My problem is I've no idea how to fix anything like this. I'm heavily
dependent on these progs working properly as it seems to have done up
'til
now!

Give Gravity a try, much easier to set up, configure and use than WM.
http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/



What news server address do I use, Ken?



Same one you do now

news.eternal-september.org

And then fill in your user name and password.

d

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"Keith G" wrote

David no sane person could contest your arguments about the superiority of
CD over LP in many respects but the truth for some of us is nothing beats
putting on a record. It's almost a certainty that virtually every
'vinylist' has a collection of CDs as well: there are hundreds here in
various places about the house....


I don't dispute that. Most of us, I guess, have collections of both. I was
merely curious as to why Bob calls those of us who don't find that "nothing
beats putting on a record" "puritans". A bit like a classic car enthusiast
calling someone who prefers the reliabilty and convenience of a modern car a
"purist".

David.

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:34:15 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
. com...
Keith G said...

My problem is I've no idea how to fix anything like this. I'm heavily
dependent on these progs working properly as it seems to have done up
'til
now!

Give Gravity a try, much easier to set up, configure and use than WM.
http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/



What news server address do I use, Ken?



Same one you do now

news.eternal-september.org

And then fill in your user name and password.


Done that and struggling to get any newsgroups now! WTF does "it is
necessary to force the client to send authentication data" mean?

Told you I was dependent on these programs running without causing any
problems!

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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

David no sane person could contest your arguments about the superiority
of CD over LP in many respects but the truth for some of us is nothing
beats putting on a record. It's almost a certainty that virtually every
'vinylist' has a collection of CDs as well: there are hundreds here in
various places about the house....


I don't dispute that. Most of us, I guess, have collections of both. I was
merely curious as to why Bob calls those of us who don't find that
"nothing beats putting on a record" "puritans". A bit like a classic car
enthusiast calling someone who prefers the reliabilty and convenience of a
modern car a "purist".


I think he is referring to a preference for the 'pure' sound claimed by CD
advocates - ie free of the inherent colouration and and artefacts of LPs.

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:56:18 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:34:15 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
.com...
Keith G said...

My problem is I've no idea how to fix anything like this. I'm heavily
dependent on these progs working properly as it seems to have done up
'til
now!

Give Gravity a try, much easier to set up, configure and use than WM.
http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/



What news server address do I use, Ken?



Same one you do now

news.eternal-september.org

And then fill in your user name and password.


Done that and struggling to get any newsgroups now! WTF does "it is
necessary to force the client to send authentication data" mean?

Told you I was dependent on these programs running without causing any
problems!


Pass on that one. I use Forte Agent which is about as simple as they
get.

d

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Keith G said...


What news server address do I use, Ken?

news.eternal-september.org
More details at: http://goo.gl/QqsIR

List of other free news servers if you are after a specific group.
http://freenews.maxbaud.net/

--
Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

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Keith G said...

Done that and struggling to get any newsgroups now! WTF does "it is
necessary to force the client to send authentication data" mean?

In Gravity go to menu...
Server
Properties
On that tab under News server Password
Untick "No password required" and then tick
"Log on using" and fill in your user name and password for E-September.

I've just set up an Eternal September account and those settings are
working as I am posting this reply through it, I hope!

--
Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

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"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
...
Keith G said...

Done that and struggling to get any newsgroups now! WTF does "it is
necessary to force the client to send authentication data" mean?

In Gravity go to menu...
Server
Properties
On that tab under News server Password
Untick "No password required" and then tick
"Log on using" and fill in your user name and password for E-September.

I've just set up an Eternal September account and those settings are
working as I am posting this reply through it, I hope!


Lovely job Ken, I'm in! Now all I got to do is find my way round - right now
all I'm getting is a lot of Ian wants to borrow a bandsaw posts! :-)

Many thanks.

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UnsteadyKen said...

I hope!

Yes, it worked.



--
Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote

David no sane person could contest your arguments about the superiority
of CD over LP in many respects but the truth for some of us is nothing
beats putting on a record. It's almost a certainty that virtually every
'vinylist' has a collection of CDs as well: there are hundreds here in
various places about the house....


I don't dispute that. Most of us, I guess, have collections of both. I
was merely curious as to why Bob calls those of us who don't find that
"nothing beats putting on a record" "puritans". A bit like a classic car
enthusiast calling someone who prefers the reliabilty and convenience of
a modern car a "purist".


I think he is referring to a preference for the 'pure' sound claimed by CD
advocates - ie free of the inherent colouration and and artefacts of LPs.

I see what you are driving at, and if CDs were a lot more expensive and less
convenient than LPs, and the ONLY reason for prefering them was the cleaner,
less coloured sound then he might have a point. I happily admit to
prefering the less coloured sound and lack of background noise of the CD;
and if I went to a lot of trouble and expense to get it then maybe, just
maybe, the term "puritan" might be justified. But since I don't have to it
isn't, quite the contrary in fact.

I would never describe the sound from a CD as "pure", an undistorted sine
wave is "pure", but it ain't music!

David.

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"David Looser" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"David Looser" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote

David no sane person could contest your arguments about the superiority
of CD over LP in many respects but the truth for some of us is nothing
beats putting on a record. It's almost a certainty that virtually every
'vinylist' has a collection of CDs as well: there are hundreds here in
various places about the house....


I don't dispute that. Most of us, I guess, have collections of both. I
was merely curious as to why Bob calls those of us who don't find that
"nothing beats putting on a record" "puritans". A bit like a classic car
enthusiast calling someone who prefers the reliabilty and convenience of
a modern car a "purist".


I think he is referring to a preference for the 'pure' sound claimed by
CD advocates - ie free of the inherent colouration and and artefacts of
LPs.

I see what you are driving at, and if CDs were a lot more expensive and
less convenient than LPs, and the ONLY reason for prefering them was the
cleaner, less coloured sound then he might have a point. I happily admit
to prefering the less coloured sound and lack of background noise of the
CD; and if I went to a lot of trouble and expense to get it then maybe,
just maybe, the term "puritan" might be justified. But since I don't have
to it isn't, quite the contrary in fact.

I would never describe the sound from a CD as "pure", an undistorted sine
wave is "pure", but it ain't music!


When it comes to talk of colouration of whatever music media I always have a
little thought for the amplification, playback equipment and
headphones/speakers being used. Whilst some may be purer than others, no-one
gets a totally 'pure' sound.

Then there's the room....

;-)

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Zero activity - oh Gawd is it me again? Another test then!

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Zero activity - oh Gawd is it me again? Another test then!

OK apparently not!