"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , David Looser
scribeth thus
"Bill Taylor" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:31:38 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:



I'm not sure I agree with that. A mobile phone is a personal phone, a
fixed-line phone belongs to a premises; though I grant that this
distinction
is more relevant to businesses. Also of course a fixed-line phone is
much
cheaper to use, and isn't going to fail because the batteries have gone
flat
or there isn't a signal.

You obviously haven't looked at BTs prices recently. £13.29 P.M.
standing charge, 10.9p connection charge and 6.4p per minute daytime
calls. Most mobile contracts are much cheaper than that.

Oh no they aren't!

David.



For some the overall package may well be cheaper .. can you explain why
my 28 YO daughter and all her mates despite being in permanent
residences don't have landline phones anymore?..

An extra 13 or 14 odd quid a month can bring you a lot of extra calling
time..

After you have the mobile which for most all young people these days is
a must have..
--

Please read the line I responded to: "Most mobile contracts are much cheaper
than that".

Nobody has seen fit to try and justify that claim, merely given me anecdotes
about what choices various young adults have made. I don't know your
daughter, or her mates, so it's not for me to explain any of the things they
might choose to do, but I suspect you have given the answer yourself:- if a
mobile is a "must-have" then, unless you make a very large number of calls,
it's probably cheaper not to have a landline as well.

As I said at the beginning of this sub-thread a mobile is a personal phone,
a landline belongs to the premises. Do you think call-centres should hand
out mobile phones to all their operators and ditch the landlines?

David.

In article , David Looser
scribeth thus
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , David Looser
scribeth thus
"Bill Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:31:38 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:



I'm not sure I agree with that. A mobile phone is a personal phone, a
fixed-line phone belongs to a premises; though I grant that this
distinction
is more relevant to businesses. Also of course a fixed-line phone is
much
cheaper to use, and isn't going to fail because the batteries have gone
flat
or there isn't a signal.

You obviously haven't looked at BTs prices recently. £13.29 P.M.
standing charge, 10.9p connection charge and 6.4p per minute daytime
calls. Most mobile contracts are much cheaper than that.

Oh no they aren't!

David.



For some the overall package may well be cheaper .. can you explain why
my 28 YO daughter and all her mates despite being in permanent
residences don't have landline phones anymore?..

An extra 13 or 14 odd quid a month can bring you a lot of extra calling
time..

After you have the mobile which for most all young people these days is
a must have..
--

Please read the line I responded to: "Most mobile contracts are much cheaper
than that".

Nobody has seen fit to try and justify that claim, merely given me anecdotes
about what choices various young adults have made. I don't know your
daughter, or her mates, so it's not for me to explain any of the things they
might choose to do, but I suspect you have given the answer yourself:- if a
mobile is a "must-have" then, unless you make a very large number of calls,
it's probably cheaper not to have a landline as well.

Shes out an about on sales calls all day but even in the office she
tends to use the mobile..


As I said at the beginning of this sub-thread a mobile is a personal phone,
a landline belongs to the premises.

So what's the difference twixt a mobile and a cordless;-?..

Do you think call-centres should hand
out mobile phones to all their operators and ditch the landlines?

I think you'll find they use a lot of differing routes these days over
mobile interconnects and fibre VoIP type connects not simple copper
lines..

More than likely they'll need a headset;!..

David.



Umm missed a bit there remoteing onto the main PC via a notebook so
screen isn't that good.

Anyways a lot of people now need mobiles and only keep their BT line for
BB but I rather think that if they could do without it then they would.

I get around 600 mins a month on the mobile which is more then I need
and these days with the call connection and setup charge from VM and I
don't think BT are any better, I either use the mobile or the VoIP
provider much cheaper than convention Landline and the VoIP service has
been excellent..

As to most mobile contracts you can get SIM only contract even the ones
from Voda give 600 mins a month and unlimited texts for 15 a month Inc
VAT..

How many inclusive mins do you get on a simple BT phone line only?..

Openreach bloke told me the other month there're only seemingly
installing lines now for broadband connections..
--
Tony Sayer

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:13:59 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , David Looser
scribeth thus
"Bill Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:31:38 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:



I'm not sure I agree with that. A mobile phone is a personal phone, a
fixed-line phone belongs to a premises; though I grant that this
distinction
is more relevant to businesses. Also of course a fixed-line phone is
much
cheaper to use, and isn't going to fail because the batteries have gone
flat
or there isn't a signal.

You obviously haven't looked at BTs prices recently. £13.29 P.M.
standing charge, 10.9p connection charge and 6.4p per minute daytime
calls. Most mobile contracts are much cheaper than that.

Oh no they aren't!

David.



For some the overall package may well be cheaper .. can you explain why
my 28 YO daughter and all her mates despite being in permanent
residences don't have landline phones anymore?..

An extra 13 or 14 odd quid a month can bring you a lot of extra calling
time..

After you have the mobile which for most all young people these days is
a must have..
--

Please read the line I responded to: "Most mobile contracts are much cheaper
than that".

Nobody has seen fit to try and justify that claim,......

You are quite right. I should have used the word "many" instead of
"most". But I see no point in getting involved in silly semantic
arguments when you have completely missed the point, which is that
land lines are expensive things to run, and often more expensive than
mobiles.

If I didn't want the convenience of a broadband connection it would
save me about £400 a year to ditch the landline.

Obviously, circumstance alter cases, and businesses making large
volumes of calls will have completely different requirements and costs
than an individual making a small number of calls.

Bill