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"David Looser" wrote in message
...
"Jim Lesurf" wrote

David, please take care never to send a CD to Keith. Not fair to try and
push him into doing what he actually said, or break his word, even
at the cost to you of a CD!


Don't worry Jim, there's very little chance that I'd ever send Keith a CD
:-)


Er, no - there's *no* chance you would get to send me a CD, but you can send
one to your whiny *old biddy* chum, if you like - I've still got his address
from when I sent him a *pristine* set of Quad FM3/33/303 manuals and
literature (including console cut-out templates, IIRC) a few years back.

(Probably worth between 35 and 50 quid on eBay at the time - unsmartest move
I ever made, it turns out..!! ;-)

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In article , David Looser
wrote:
"Jim Lesurf" wrote

David, please take care never to send a CD to Keith. Not fair to try
and push him into doing what he actually said, or break his word, even
at the cost to you of a CD!


Don't worry Jim, there's very little chance that I'd ever send Keith a
CD
:-)

No shock/horror here at that. :-)

Should say that my previous posting was - as the eagles say - "for the
avoidance of all doubt". Just trying to cover Keith in case at some future
point the eagles find his postings on the archives are are muddled into
action against him by what he said. Only raised the matters in the first
place with the intent of avoiding him from digging a hole for himself with
them. Not surprised by his reactions.

Slainte,

Jim

--
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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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In article , Keith G

wrote:

"David Looser" wrote in message
...
"Jim Lesurf" wrote

David, please take care never to send a CD to Keith. Not fair to try
and push him into doing what he actually said, or break his word,
even at the cost to you of a CD!


Don't worry Jim, there's very little chance that I'd ever send Keith a
CD
:-)


Er, no - there's *no* chance you would get to send me a CD, but you can
send one to your whiny *old biddy* chum, if you like - I've still got
his address from when I sent him a *pristine* set of Quad FM3/33/303
manuals and literature (including console cut-out templates, IIRC) a
few years back.

Must confess I don't recall that. A number of people have given me copies
of those manuals, etc, along with other info from many other people. cf
below. So hardly a surprise if I can't recall, I'm afraid.


(Probably worth between 35 and 50 quid on eBay at the time - unsmartest
move I ever made, it turns out..!! ;-)

If your only concern is money, yes. Odd if you didn't know that at the
time.

However since you raise this I should point out something for any 'new
readers' of this group. May also help Keith to dry his tears over his lost
fortune and cheer up a little... ;-

I have for decades systematically collected documentation on old audio kit.
This serves two purposes.

One is to let me help others who have old kit they wish to use / maintain /
service / restore. I provide info and help when I can. I don't charge.
Happy to help if I manage.

The other is to publish info about audio kit and its history and technology
on the web. Again so that others can access it without any payment to me.

Anyone who sends me documents should know these are the reasons I collect
such material. I don't pay for it because I don't charge others for it. I
don't deal in either documents or kit. (FWIW Nor do I do any repairs, etc,
for others for money.)

As well as doing this to help those with kit, and promote an interest in
audio history, etc, I also do it because I'd like the 'pioneers' who
developed UK audio kit to have what they did more widely known and
appreciated. Many of them are now dead, others retired and unknown. Seems
to me only fair their work should get some coverage.

When I started doing this (decades ago, now!) the info was 'fading away' as
firms closed, paperwork binned, and people died or forgot. Most magazines
and writers took little interest in most old kit.

So I started collecting and making info available. Pleased to say others
have also done this and people now have a greater appreciation of the
topic. Ahem, including those with a special interest in euphemism well
established /euphemism audio technology like valves, vinyl, horn
speakers, etc. Happy to help when I can, even when I don't always share
their preferences. No charge. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

--
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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Er, no - there's *no* chance you would get to send me a CD, but you can
send one to your whiny *old biddy* chum, if you like - I've still got
his address from when I sent him a *pristine* set of Quad FM3/33/303
manuals and literature (including console cut-out templates, IIRC) a
few years back.

One who sells equipment without the manual? I hate those...

(Probably worth between 35 and 50 quid on eBay at the time - unsmartest
move I ever made, it turns out..!! ;-)

Some time ago, I misplaced the manual for my FM3. Quad sent me a new one
for free.

--
*A closed mouth gathers no feet.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Er, no - there's *no* chance you would get to send me a CD, but you can
send one to your whiny *old biddy* chum, if you like - I've still got
his address from when I sent him a *pristine* set of Quad FM3/33/303
manuals and literature (including console cut-out templates, IIRC) a
few years back.

One who sells equipment without the manual? I hate those...


Personally, I think you're going to struggle to find *anyone* who gives a
monkey's about that.

While, OTOH, *hundreds* will be interested to know I had two FM3/33/303
setups at the same time - here's one of them I got for 125 spons from the
local hifi shop (before they decided to put all secondhand trade-ins on
eBay):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...d%20-%2001.JPG


No problems with either of them except for a switch-on thump on one of them
which I cured with a new capacitor:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...d%20-%2005.JPG


....which I don't think is too shabby for someone with *zero* electronics
experience or training....

;-)

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Keith G Originally wrote:
----- Message -----
From: "Keith G"
Newsgroups: uk.rec.audio
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:15 PM
Subject: Another 'self-censoring' post! :-)




Maybe 'pointless' but it's good, cheap fun! ;-)



As can be seen, the clueless clique have been googling but not
efficiently. Even the self-proclaimed "professional" but he is
just a not very good hobbyist - Arny, leapt in once supplied
with a few clues.
And the two David's both easily led up the garden path did their
googling and as usual typed into search the clues but only garnered
info from the first page of results, primarily the notoriously
inaccurate Wikipedia.
All too predictable is that over the coming months they will continue
on their learning curve of how copy protection has evolved and how it
is now incorporated into copyright material. Then they will portray
they knew all along.

They are feeling vunerable and very silly so you must not be tempted
to perplex them further, do not ask why has Apple removed copy
protection from iTunes downloads? And as this is an audio group you
must not mention Macrovison strippers (though it is relevent) nor
HDCP handshaking. And just do not ask about Hauppauges clever USB
capture device - Just don't ask!
And for goodness sake under no circumstances mention remastered
scousers and copy protection, the clique will only spend sleepless
nights scouring red books. They are very old and easily befuddled.
There is even a poster who thinks "Scotch" is a nationality?
Do not mention that Scotch is an over-taxed alcoholic drinkypoo.

You bunch of big girls blouses must stop your bickering and learn
to love each other.

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"No Win No Fee" wrote

As can be seen, the clueless clique have been googling but not
efficiently.

Why don't you try finding out what the law *actually* says before posting?
As I said before it's a good idea to get your facts right before calling
other people names.
Not only are you gratuitously offensive, you are also *wrong* about
copyright. Contrary to what you appear to believe you don't become "right"
just by being able to insult others.

Oh, and by the way nether macrovision nor HDCP makes one iota of difference
to copyright law. Both, like DRM and SCMS, are simply mechanisms intended to
make it difficult to breach copyright. It's just as illegal to copy a
copyright recording whether any of these "copyright protection" mechanisms
are in use or not.

David.

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On 24/03/2011 15:59, No Win No Fee wrote:
Keith G Originally wrote:
----- Message -----
From: "Keith G"
Newsgroups: uk.rec.audio
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:15 PM
Subject: Another 'self-censoring' post! :-)




Maybe 'pointless' but it's good, cheap fun! ;-)



As can be seen, the clueless clique have been googling but not
efficiently. Even the self-proclaimed "professional" but he is
just a not very good hobbyist - Arny, leapt in once supplied
with a few clues.
And the two David's both easily led up the garden path did their
googling and as usual typed into search the clues but only garnered
info from the first page of results, primarily the notoriously
inaccurate Wikipedia.
All too predictable is that over the coming months they will continue
on their learning curve of how copy protection has evolved and how it
is now incorporated into copyright material. Then they will portray
they knew all along.

They are feeling vunerable and very silly so you must not be tempted
to perplex them further, do not ask why has Apple removed copy
protection from iTunes downloads? And as this is an audio group you
must not mention Macrovison strippers (though it is relevent) nor
HDCP handshaking. And just do not ask about Hauppauges clever USB
capture device - Just don't ask!
And for goodness sake under no circumstances mention remastered
scousers and copy protection, the clique will only spend sleepless
nights scouring red books. They are very old and easily befuddled.
There is even a poster who thinks "Scotch" is a nationality?
Do not mention that Scotch is an over-taxed alcoholic drinkypoo.

You bunch of big girls blouses must stop your bickering and learn
to love each other.

Now look here old chap, you musn't go round bursting the cliques little
bubble, it's the only thing that protects their fragile little lives.

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In article om,
resender wrote:
You bunch of big girls blouses must stop your bickering and learn
to love each other.

Now look here old chap, you musn't go round bursting the cliques little
bubble, it's the only thing that protects their fragile little lives.

You appear to be replying to yourself, old chap.

--
*If at first you don't succeed, avoid skydiving.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On 23/03/2011 18:55, David Looser wrote:
wrote


Yes, that's fine, I just don't happen to agree with the law.

So what do you think copyright law should be like?


I don't agree with copyright law - I don't think that people should own
anything at all.

Rob