This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.

On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


.... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

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On 28/05/2011 09:20, mick wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

....and blind too.

Did someone call?

Actually if you listen to the commercial stations, and many bbc ones you
might be forgiven for thinking that real engineering of sound is a thing of
the past. its all left up to automatic computer controlled systems that make
a hash of it these days.

Brian

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"sender" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 28/05/2011 09:20, mick wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

...and blind too.

In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Did someone call?

Actually if you listen to the commercial stations, and many bbc ones you
might be forgiven for thinking that real engineering of sound is a
thing of the past. its all left up to automatic computer controlled
systems that make a hash of it these days.

Indeed. Although TV - with its much larger operating budget - is a bigger
offender than radio. With HD services being the worst.
There's lots of talk about producing a meter which gives a true indication
of loudness. Since 'they' apparently can't even read a PPM, what
difference will that make? In any case, the best 'meter' to use is ears.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Mon, 30 May 2011 09:59:54 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Did someone call?

Actually if you listen to the commercial stations, and many bbc ones you
might be forgiven for thinking that real engineering of sound is a
thing of the past. its all left up to automatic computer controlled
systems that make a hash of it these days.

Indeed. Although TV - with its much larger operating budget - is a bigger
offender than radio. With HD services being the worst.
There's lots of talk about producing a meter which gives a true indication
of loudness. Since 'they' apparently can't even read a PPM, what
difference will that make? In any case, the best 'meter' to use is ears.

Robert Orban has produced a meter that I find a pretty good estimation
of actual loudness. He has a free beta on his web site here

http://www.orban.com/meter/

I actually find local radio (BBC 94.9) the worst offenders. When a
talk programme inserts a bit of music, it appears to be routed through
the speech compressors - the result is virtually unlistenable and I
generally switch off at that point. Seasickness is the best
approximation I can give to the result.

Strange coincidence maybe, but misuse of Orban's Optimod system is
almost single-handedly responsible for all of the nastiness.

d

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Strange coincidence maybe, but misuse of Orban's Optimod system is
almost single-handedly responsible for all of the nastiness.

Indeed - some seem to think it will sort out anything stuffed into it. But
like any tool it needs a skilled operator for the best results.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"mick" wrote in message
eb.com...
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

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Mick (Working in a M$-free zone!)
Web: http://www.nascom.info
Filtering everything posted from googlegroups to kill spam.

Seems like the sorts of noises I might expect of Friends of Kieth. :-(

In article , Arny
Krueger
wrote:

"mick" wrote in message
eb.com...
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

-- Mick (Working in a M$-free zone!) Web:
http://www.nascom.info Filtering everything posted from googlegroups
to kill spam.

Seems like the sorts of noises I might expect of Friends of Kieth. :-(

Not sure which of the above your comment relates to. I'm also working in a
'house with no Windows', but I'm not sure Keith thinks I am his 'friend'
these days. So far as I am concerned, not using Windows is simply a matter
of personal choice. As is deciding what postings aren't worth responding
to... :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Brian Gaff
scribeth thus
Did someone call?

Actually if you listen to the commercial stations, and many bbc ones you
might be forgiven for thinking that real engineering of sound is a thing of
the past. its all left up to automatic computer controlled systems that make
a hash of it these days.

The computers as such only do what there're told to. Where a lot of the
audio problems are is audio MPEG coding of the source audio then sending
that down compressed lines and then processing that ....

... Not good .. as Captain Jack Sparrow would say;!...


Brian


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