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Speaker drive unit replacement.



 
 
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Old October 5th 11, 10:07 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
David[_5_]
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Default Speaker drive unit replacement.

Hello,
I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am
not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number
is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no
replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not
surprised that they don't have spares.

Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously
replace both not just the blown one)?

Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the
specification of the speaker?

Full range or not?
Impedance?
Size?
Sensitivity?
Anything else?

Thank you

--
David

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Old October 5th 11, 10:59 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_2_]
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Default Speaker drive unit replacement.


"David"

I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and
am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part
number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no
replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not
surprised that they don't have spares.

Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously
replace both not just the blown one)?

Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the
specification of the speaker?

Full range or not?
Impedance?
Size?
Sensitivity?
Anything else?




** You a total ****ing moron ????

YOU have got two example speakers and so YOU know the answers to your
first three questions.

The folk at Panasonic spares have no examples and hence no bloody idea.

We have no idea either for the same bloody obvious reason.




.... Phil


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Old October 5th 11, 12:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Speaker drive unit replacement.

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David wrote:
Hello,
I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am
not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number
is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no
replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not
surprised that they don't have spares.


Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously
replace both not just the blown one)?


Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the
specification of the speaker?


Full range or not?
Impedance?
Size?
Sensitivity?
Anything else?


I very much doubt it uses anything fancy, so it would be more of a
question of getting something that physically fits. The power handling and
impedance are probably marked on the speaker. Or the power output of the
amp given in the handbook.

http://www.wilmslow-audio.co.uk/

would be a good start for a replacement.

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Old October 5th 11, 12:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David[_5_]
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Default Speaker drive unit replacement.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the
specification of the speaker?


Full range or not?
Impedance?
Size?
Sensitivity?
Anything else?


I very much doubt it uses anything fancy, so it would be more of a
question of getting something that physically fits. The power handling and
impedance are probably marked on the speaker. Or the power output of the
amp given in the handbook.

http://www.wilmslow-audio.co.uk/

would be a good start for a replacement.


Thank you Dave,

I'm fairly sure it's a 2x40 watts RMS amplifier but we haven't found the
handbook yet.
The piano is in everyday use so I was hoping that Panasonic would be able to
tell me the spec of the speaker before I dismantle it.
I shall open it up and have a look.

Thanks for the link.

Regards

David


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Old October 5th 11, 12:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David[_5_]
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
"David"

I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano
and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the
part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there
is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm
not surprised that they don't have spares.

Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously
replace both not just the blown one)?

Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the
specification of the speaker?

Full range or not?
Impedance?
Size?
Sensitivity?
Anything else?


** You a total ****ing moron ????


Well for now let's assume so.

YOU have got two example speakers and so YOU know the answers to your
first three questions.

The folk at Panasonic spares have no examples and hence no bloody idea.


Well I thought that maybe as they designed the piano that just maybe they
might know the spec.

We have no idea either for the same bloody obvious reason.


Which is why I asked which information I need to get a suitable replacement.

Thank you for your time.

David

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Old October 5th 11, 12:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches[_2_]
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"David" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and
am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part
number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no
replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not
surprised that they don't have spares.

Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously
replace both not just the blown one)?

Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the
specification of the speaker?

Full range or not?
Impedance?
Size?
Sensitivity?
Anything else?

Thank you

--
David

Only 1 in 10 people understand the binary system - the other half don't.



Hello David.

I am not familiar with the Technics PX20 but have had a similar problem
with a Roland stage piano, that is used professionally at 200 concerts a
year. The pianist uses the internal speakers as his own stage monitor, with
the line level output going to the PA mix.

He complained of a "fuzzy" sound. I took the speaker out. No direct
replacements were available from Roland. It was a smallish eliptical,
stamped 10W 8 Ohms, so I bought a pair of 8 Ohm replacements from
a local component shop, which had half a dozen different speakers, all
of which would have fitted perfectly. I took the salesmans' advice,
and bought the best built with the heaviest magnet. As it turned out,
it was not the most expensive. The manufacturer was, IIRC, Monacor.

This was 6 months and nearly 100 concerts ago.
All is well.

Iain



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Old October 5th 11, 01:31 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David[_5_]
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Default Speaker drive unit replacement.

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...

"David" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano
and
am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part
number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no
replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not
surprised that they don't have spares.

Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously
replace both not just the blown one)?

Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the
specification of the speaker?

Full range or not?
Impedance?
Size?
Sensitivity?
Anything else?

Thank you

--
David

Only 1 in 10 people understand the binary system - the other half don't.



Hello David.

I am not familiar with the Technics PX20 but have had a similar problem
with a Roland stage piano, that is used professionally at 200 concerts a
year. The pianist uses the internal speakers as his own stage monitor,
with
the line level output going to the PA mix.

He complained of a "fuzzy" sound. I took the speaker out. No direct
replacements were available from Roland. It was a smallish eliptical,
stamped 10W 8 Ohms, so I bought a pair of 8 Ohm replacements from
a local component shop, which had half a dozen different speakers, all
of which would have fitted perfectly. I took the salesmans' advice,
and bought the best built with the heaviest magnet. As it turned out,
it was not the most expensive. The manufacturer was, IIRC, Monacor.

This was 6 months and nearly 100 concerts ago.
All is well.

Iain


Thank you Iain,

I shall have a look inside and try to find a suitable match.

Regards

David


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Old October 5th 11, 02:49 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default Speaker drive unit replacement.


David wrote...

Size?


Assuming this is a similar model (SX-PX 20) then;
the service manual downloadable from...
http://elektrotanya.com/technics_sx-.../download.html
doesn't say much only...

Speaker 1 = 16cm 8ohm
Speaker 2 = 12cm 8 ohm
Speaker 3 = Horn tweeter 16ohm.

It does mention that there are Stereo Left and Right audio outputs on
RCA on the rear panel which if present on your model could possibly be
used if no luck with the speaker(s).


To download the SM you should click the small red left and right arrows
to the right of the cover image to view several ads, a "Get manual" link
will eventually show and it will then download.


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Old October 5th 11, 03:16 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David[_5_]
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Default Speaker drive unit replacement.

"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
om...

David wrote...

Size?


Assuming this is a similar model (SX-PX 20) then;
the service manual downloadable from...
http://elektrotanya.com/technics_sx-.../download.html
doesn't say much only...

Speaker 1 = 16cm 8ohm
Speaker 2 = 12cm 8 ohm
Speaker 3 = Horn tweeter 16ohm.

It does mention that there are Stereo Left and Right audio outputs on
RCA on the rear panel which if present on your model could possibly be
used if no luck with the speaker(s).


To download the SM you should click the small red left and right arrows
to the right of the cover image to view several ads, a "Get manual" link
will eventually show and it will then download.


Thank you Ken, that's fantastic.
I'll have a listen to see which speaker has blown (assuming it is a
speaker), but at least it's not stereo so only need to replace one.
Will let you all know how I get on.

David

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Old October 6th 11, 12:00 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_2_]
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Default Speaker drive unit replacement.


"David"
"Phil Allison"
"David"

I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano
and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the
part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there
is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm
not surprised that they don't have spares.

Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously
replace both not just the blown one)?

Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the
specification of the speaker?

Full range or not?
Impedance?
Size?
Sensitivity?
Anything else?


** You a total ****ing moron ????


Well for now let's assume so.



** No assumption needed here, folks.


YOU have got two example speakers and so YOU know the answers to your
first three questions.

The folk at Panasonic spares have no examples and hence no bloody idea.


Well I thought that maybe as they designed the piano ...


** ROTFLMAO !!!

The spare parts gal or dude is now the **designer ** ???

Think some guy in Japan or Taiwan has that title.



We have no idea either for the same bloody obvious reason.


Which is why I asked which information I need to get a suitable
replacement.



** My god you really are a LIVE ONE !!



...... Phil


 




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