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BEAR November 10th 03 03:23 AM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
Hi all...

Got a new ISP and they actually have some decent newsgroup coverage, so
this is my first post here in probably a decade... HA!

Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same three
pin IEC connectors on the back? If so, what prevents anyone taking a US
110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond, and then someone plugging in a nice
British 240vac (that's what it is?) line cord with a British mains plug and
the same IEC on the unit, and POWW!!!

Just curious...

_-_-bear

BTW, I sure wish IEC connectors were locking... :- )

--
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http://www.bearlabs.com



dave November 10th 03 07:59 AM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 23:23:35 -0500, BEAR wrote:

Hi all...

Got a new ISP and they actually have some decent newsgroup coverage, so
this is my first post here in probably a decade... HA!

Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same three
pin IEC connectors on the back? If so, what prevents anyone taking a US
110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond, and then someone plugging in a nice
British 240vac (that's what it is?) line cord with a British mains plug and
the same IEC on the unit, and POWW!!!



Common sense + a desire not to destroy your hifi equipment?

dave November 10th 03 07:59 AM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 23:23:35 -0500, BEAR wrote:

Hi all...

Got a new ISP and they actually have some decent newsgroup coverage, so
this is my first post here in probably a decade... HA!

Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same three
pin IEC connectors on the back? If so, what prevents anyone taking a US
110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond, and then someone plugging in a nice
British 240vac (that's what it is?) line cord with a British mains plug and
the same IEC on the unit, and POWW!!!



Common sense + a desire not to destroy your hifi equipment?

Nath November 10th 03 11:43 AM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 23:23:35 -0500, BEAR wrote:

Hi all...

Got a new ISP and they actually have some decent newsgroup coverage,

so
this is my first post here in probably a decade... HA!

Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same

three
pin IEC connectors on the back? If so, what prevents anyone taking a US
110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond, and then someone

plugging in a nice
British 240vac (that's what it is?) line cord with a British mains plug

and
the same IEC on the unit, and POWW!!!



Common sense + a desire not to destroy your hifi equipment?


Common sense? What's that?

(whilst using a toaster in the bath)



Nath November 10th 03 11:43 AM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 23:23:35 -0500, BEAR wrote:

Hi all...

Got a new ISP and they actually have some decent newsgroup coverage,

so
this is my first post here in probably a decade... HA!

Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same

three
pin IEC connectors on the back? If so, what prevents anyone taking a US
110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond, and then someone

plugging in a nice
British 240vac (that's what it is?) line cord with a British mains plug

and
the same IEC on the unit, and POWW!!!



Common sense + a desire not to destroy your hifi equipment?


Common sense? What's that?

(whilst using a toaster in the bath)



Brod November 10th 03 12:04 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same three
pin IEC connectors on the back?


Yes!

If so, what prevents anyone taking a US 110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond, and then someone plugging in a nice British 240vac (that's what it is?) line cord with a British mains plug and the same IEC on the unit, and POWW!!!


Nothing!!

Except (if you're lucky) a label saying 110V and it's very common to
come across equipment that has detonated for just that reason.


Brod.


www.eurotherm.co.uk

Brod November 10th 03 12:04 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same three
pin IEC connectors on the back?


Yes!

If so, what prevents anyone taking a US 110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond, and then someone plugging in a nice British 240vac (that's what it is?) line cord with a British mains plug and the same IEC on the unit, and POWW!!!


Nothing!!

Except (if you're lucky) a label saying 110V and it's very common to
come across equipment that has detonated for just that reason.


Brod.


www.eurotherm.co.uk

Mike November 10th 03 04:16 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
BEAR writes:

Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same
three pin IEC connectors on the back? If so, what prevents anyone
taking a US 110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond,
and then someone plugging in a nice British 240vac (that's what it
is?) line cord with a British mains plug and the same IEC on the
unit, and POWW!!!


Absolutely nothing.
But it could be worse.
I have several appliances (old Technics integrated amp, Philips
portable radio, Teac cassette recorder) with a non-detachable
italian 6A mains plug and a 110-220V voltage selector.
Some PC also have a 110-220V selector, and some other have a
smarter PSU.

But even if you pay attention the worst could happen. Here in Italy,
you could have two kind of 3-phase system: 220V triangle (_normally_
without neutral) and 220V star (or 380V trangle) (_normally_ with
neutral). But especially if the 220V triangle is designed to have big
motors, there is also a neutral wire, and is used the same socket of
380V star.

BTW, I sure wish IEC connectors were locking... :- )


There is a locking IEC socket. Has a metal piece that pass behind the
plug and lock on a iron wire. The socket is not auto-locking, and works
with the lock open too.


Mike November 10th 03 04:16 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
BEAR writes:

Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same
three pin IEC connectors on the back? If so, what prevents anyone
taking a US 110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond,
and then someone plugging in a nice British 240vac (that's what it
is?) line cord with a British mains plug and the same IEC on the
unit, and POWW!!!


Absolutely nothing.
But it could be worse.
I have several appliances (old Technics integrated amp, Philips
portable radio, Teac cassette recorder) with a non-detachable
italian 6A mains plug and a 110-220V voltage selector.
Some PC also have a 110-220V selector, and some other have a
smarter PSU.

But even if you pay attention the worst could happen. Here in Italy,
you could have two kind of 3-phase system: 220V triangle (_normally_
without neutral) and 220V star (or 380V trangle) (_normally_ with
neutral). But especially if the 220V triangle is designed to have big
motors, there is also a neutral wire, and is used the same socket of
380V star.

BTW, I sure wish IEC connectors were locking... :- )


There is a locking IEC socket. Has a metal piece that pass behind the
plug and lock on a iron wire. The socket is not auto-locking, and works
with the lock open too.


Andy Evans November 10th 03 04:41 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
I'm thinking of going over to Neutrik Powercons.

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Andy Evans November 10th 03 04:41 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
I'm thinking of going over to Neutrik Powercons.

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
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Tim S Kemp November 10th 03 06:14 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
BTW, I sure wish IEC connectors were locking... :- )

Much safer for portable equipment to have a non locking cord as then if the
cord is tripped over then it detaches, minimising the risk of the equipment
falling from wherever it is and being damaged or injuring someone.


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Tim S Kemp November 10th 03 06:14 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
BTW, I sure wish IEC connectors were locking... :- )

Much safer for portable equipment to have a non locking cord as then if the
cord is tripped over then it detaches, minimising the risk of the equipment
falling from wherever it is and being damaged or injuring someone.


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Chris Morriss November 10th 03 08:15 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
In message , BEAR
writes
Hi all...

Got a new ISP and they actually have some decent newsgroup coverage, so
this is my first post here in probably a decade... HA!

Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same three
pin IEC connectors on the back? If so, what prevents anyone taking a US
110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond, and then
someone plugging in a nice
British 240vac (that's what it is?) line cord with a British mains plug and
the same IEC on the unit, and POWW!!!

Just curious...

_-_-bear

BTW, I sure wish IEC connectors were locking... :- )

--
_-_- BEAR Labs
- Custom Audio Equipment, Cables, Mods, Repairs -
http://www.bearlabs.com



Yep, pretty much a world-wide mains connector. I've seen a fair number
of pieces of test equipment blown up 'cause someone hadn't checked that
the 115-230V selector switch wasn't set correctly though.
--
Chris Morriss

Chris Morriss November 10th 03 08:15 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
In message , BEAR
writes
Hi all...

Got a new ISP and they actually have some decent newsgroup coverage, so
this is my first post here in probably a decade... HA!

Anyhow, just had a thought - does your gear over there use the same three
pin IEC connectors on the back? If so, what prevents anyone taking a US
110vac rig and sending it over to your side of the pond, and then
someone plugging in a nice
British 240vac (that's what it is?) line cord with a British mains plug and
the same IEC on the unit, and POWW!!!

Just curious...

_-_-bear

BTW, I sure wish IEC connectors were locking... :- )

--
_-_- BEAR Labs
- Custom Audio Equipment, Cables, Mods, Repairs -
http://www.bearlabs.com



Yep, pretty much a world-wide mains connector. I've seen a fair number
of pieces of test equipment blown up 'cause someone hadn't checked that
the 115-230V selector switch wasn't set correctly though.
--
Chris Morriss

Dave Plowman November 10th 03 11:25 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
In article ,
Andy Evans wrote:
I'm thinking of going over to Neutrik Powercons.


They are an excellent connector - we use them for pro transportable gear
where they are frequently disconnected and re-connected and I can't
remember a breakage or failure.

--
*Oh, what a tangled website we weave when first we practice *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman November 10th 03 11:25 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
In article ,
Andy Evans wrote:
I'm thinking of going over to Neutrik Powercons.


They are an excellent connector - we use them for pro transportable gear
where they are frequently disconnected and re-connected and I can't
remember a breakage or failure.

--
*Oh, what a tangled website we weave when first we practice *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Andy Evans November 11th 03 01:23 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
The round chassis cutouts are very tempting! Where do you get the best price on
these? Andy

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.

Andy Evans November 11th 03 01:23 PM

Stupid IEC AC mains plug Q
 
The round chassis cutouts are very tempting! Where do you get the best price on
these? Andy

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.


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