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the_constructor[_2_] February 17th 12 10:25 AM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 
I have been given a Kenwood Hi-Fi system. Yes it is old and yes it does
work, well partly anyway. Amp with CD player

These are the parts included:
All Kenwood
T-85L Tuner
DP-950 CD player
GE-850 Graphic equaliser
A-85 Amplifier

I have been informed by a chap on eBay that I need a special cable to link
the Tuner and the Graphic Equaliser to the amplifier. Apparently the amp
sends control cables to the other parts in order to switch them on etc.

I was wondering if, long shot I know, if anyone knew anything about this
system and if they could give any further info on the cables so that I could
possibly make some if I can find the components required.

Kindest regards,

Jim G




Dave Plowman (News) February 17th 12 11:13 AM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 
Worth Googling for the service manual or circuit diagram. Most older ones
are out there somewhere.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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dennis@home[_2_] February 17th 12 12:48 PM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 


"the_constructor" wrote in message
...
I have been given a Kenwood Hi-Fi system. Yes it is old and yes it does
work, well partly anyway. Amp with CD player

These are the parts included:
All Kenwood
T-85L Tuner
DP-950 CD player
GE-850 Graphic equaliser
A-85 Amplifier

I have been informed by a chap on eBay that I need a special cable to link
the Tuner and the Graphic Equaliser to the amplifier. Apparently the amp
sends control cables to the other parts in order to switch them on etc.

I was wondering if, long shot I know, if anyone knew anything about this
system and if they could give any further info on the cables so that I
could
possibly make some if I can find the components required.


Many moons ago I recall having a play with a Kenwood system.
It had control cables which I think were 3.5 mm stereo jacks at each end
that went between the units.
I don't think there was anything special about them.
Have a look on the back of the units and you should find the sockets IIRC.


Ian Iveson[_2_] February 17th 12 04:38 PM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 
On Feb 17, 11:25*am, "the_constructor"
wrote:
I have been given a Kenwood Hi-Fi system. Yes it is old and yes it does
work, well partly anyway. Amp with CD player

These are the parts included:
All Kenwood
T-85L Tuner
DP-950 CD player
GE-850 Graphic equaliser
A-85 Amplifier

I have been informed by a chap on eBay that I need a special cable to link
the Tuner and the Graphic Equaliser to the amplifier. Apparently *the amp
sends control cables to the other parts in order to switch them on etc.

I was wondering if, long shot I know, if anyone knew anything about this
system and if they could give any further info on the cables so that I could
possibly make some if I can find the components required.

Kindest regards,

Jim G


There are both audio and control cables between these units.

Just looking at an A-54 amp, it has two pairs of phono connectors for
preamp out and power amp in. Your graphic equaliser should use all of
these. On the A-54, there appears to be no bypass within the amp, so
if you want the amp to work without the EQ, you will need to connect
the centres of the preamp out phonos to the centres of the power amp
ins.

For the control links, some Kenwoods use mini jacks, but some
including this A-54 use cables with flat multipin connectors. AFAIK
only two conductors are connected on each connector, so the system
might be the same as that with mini jacks. So, if you have the flat
connectors, then you will need to obtain original cables, or wire up
yourself, possibly using single wires with single pins. Manuals are
easy to find, and show the connections. Check the fuses if there are
any.

Ian




geoff February 19th 12 08:28 PM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 
In message ,
the_constructor writes
I have been given a Kenwood Hi-Fi system. Yes it is old and yes it does
work, well partly anyway. Amp with CD player

These are the parts included:
All Kenwood
T-85L Tuner
DP-950 CD player
GE-850 Graphic equaliser
A-85 Amplifier

I have been informed by a chap on eBay that I need a special cable to link
the Tuner and the Graphic Equaliser to the amplifier. Apparently the amp
sends control cables to the other parts in order to switch them on etc.

I have, tucked away upstairs, a similar system I bought in Indonesia 25
years ago.; The amp is an A-45 , but, I presume more or less the same.
It has both power and control cables linking the tuner, amp and GE
modules

I'll take a look tomorrow


--
geoff

the_constructor[_2_] February 19th 12 09:45 PM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message ,
the_constructor writes
I have been given a Kenwood Hi-Fi system. Yes it is old and yes it does
work, well partly anyway. Amp with CD player

These are the parts included:
All Kenwood
T-85L Tuner
DP-950 CD player
GE-850 Graphic equaliser
A-85 Amplifier

I have been informed by a chap on eBay that I need a special cable to link
the Tuner and the Graphic Equaliser to the amplifier. Apparently the amp
sends control cables to the other parts in order to switch them on etc.

I have, tucked away upstairs, a similar system I bought in Indonesia 25
years ago.; The amp is an A-45 , but, I presume more or less the same. It
has both power and control cables linking the tuner, amp and GE modules

I'll take a look tomorrow


--
geoff


Many thanks Geoff. Look forward to hearing from you soon

Jim G



Adrian C February 19th 12 10:10 PM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 
On 19/02/2012 21:28, geoff wrote:
In message ,
the_constructor writes
I have been given a Kenwood Hi-Fi system. Yes it is old and yes it does
work, well partly anyway. Amp with CD player

These are the parts included:
All Kenwood
T-85L Tuner
DP-950 CD player
GE-850 Graphic equaliser
A-85 Amplifier

I have been informed by a chap on eBay that I need a special cable to
link
the Tuner and the Graphic Equaliser to the amplifier. Apparently the amp
sends control cables to the other parts in order to switch them on etc.

I have, tucked away upstairs, a similar system I bought in Indonesia 25
years ago.; The amp is an A-45 , but, I presume more or less the same.
It has both power and control cables linking the tuner, amp and GE modules

I'll take a look tomorrow


A quick google image search found this for the A-85. Note socket bottom
right labelled T-85.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/pict2140jpg.jpg/

http://www.avforums.com/forums/attac...8112009050.jpg

And above for the A-82. Similar connector, labelled as a power connector
- and also separate control connections. I don't see the latter in the
T-85 picture unless they are off-photo.... so it's integrated as
suggested by the OP.

Of course, a service manual will be on the webs somewere to reveal all.
It's an illusive thing at present, mouse is complaining of too much wiggle.

--
Adrian C

Adrian C February 19th 12 10:50 PM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 
On 19/02/2012 23:10, Adrian C wrote:

Of course, a service manual will be on the webs somewere to reveal all.
It's an illusive thing at present, mouse is complaining of too much wiggle.


Following page claims the A-93 is similar

http://www.hifi-wiki.com/index.php/Kenwood_A-85

A user manual for this is here.

http://inform3.kenwoodusa.com/manuals/midim93.pdf

--
Adrian C

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] February 20th 12 12:00 AM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 
Adrian C wrote:


Of course, a service manual will be on the webs somewere to reveal all.
It's an illusive thing at present,


You mean its casting spells to conceal itself? Wow! 54th level sorceror
and all that?


mouse is complaining of too much wiggle.


I'll pass over that...

Arfa Daily February 20th 12 05:17 PM

O T: Kenwood Hi-Fi System Help ?
 


"the_constructor" wrote in message
o.uk...

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message ,
the_constructor writes
I have been given a Kenwood Hi-Fi system. Yes it is old and yes it does
work, well partly anyway. Amp with CD player

These are the parts included:
All Kenwood
T-85L Tuner
DP-950 CD player
GE-850 Graphic equaliser
A-85 Amplifier

I have been informed by a chap on eBay that I need a special cable to
link
the Tuner and the Graphic Equaliser to the amplifier. Apparently the amp
sends control cables to the other parts in order to switch them on etc.

I have, tucked away upstairs, a similar system I bought in Indonesia 25
years ago.; The amp is an A-45 , but, I presume more or less the same. It
has both power and control cables linking the tuner, amp and GE modules

I'll take a look tomorrow


--
geoff


Many thanks Geoff. Look forward to hearing from you soon

Jim G



I seem to recall that the control cable is basically a set of loop-through
3.5 mm jack to 3.5 mm jack. I used to repair a lot of these systems for a
company some years back, and I have it amongst the cobwebs of my mind, that
these systems are very critical of the 'order' in which the individual items
are bussed. I'm thinking particularly of the graphic and tape deck, which I
seem to recall are particularly 'strange' in the way that they interconnect.
If you don't get everything right, the remote control doesn't work. I
remember keeping a copy of the user manual filed away, with a hand-drawn
diagram of my own, so odd was it. If you have any issues with getting it all
to work, shout me direct, or on here, and I'll see if I can fish out the
diagrams, as I'm sure I must still have them.

Arfa



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