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Java Jive June 25th 12 09:53 PM

Backing Up My CDs
 
Having last year successfully backed up my vinyls, I now want to do
the same with my CDs, of which a have something over 200. Not only
will they then be backed up against, loss, theft, or damage, but also
could be played directly by a media player.

I plan to back up to *.WAV files, and scan the cover artwork.

Currently I'm using WinDAC32 for the ripping. It rips the tracks
fine and is well-configurable as regards the resulting file titles,
etc. The trouble is that is insists on using the database at ...

freedb.freedb.org

.... and this database doesn't have many, perhaps even most, of my CDs
listed. The first two I tried today were missing:

Audience Friends, Friends, Friend
Clannad The Ultimate Collection

Perhaps the 70s progressive rock band Audience not being there is no
surprise, but I would have expected a still relatively well-known band
like Clannad to be covered. This doesn't exactly bode well for the
rest of my collection!

Worse still, WinDAC32 won't even let my update the db with the CD
data.

Meanwhile, the data for both the above IS held at the
now-no-longer-free CDDB database for which I have long held a
developer ID (which is how I know).

Can anyone suggest a Windows for preference, or failing that perhaps
Linux, ripping program which:

!! Like WinDAC32, absolutely must allow ripping to wave files without
altering content.

!! Like WinDAC32, allows configuration of how the resulting files are
named, and saved in sub-directories.

++ Preferably allows me to use the CDDB database as well as the
freedb one.

+- Failing that, at least allows me to update the freedb database so
that I only have to set up the details once?

TIA.
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Java Jive June 26th 12 12:14 AM

Backing Up My CDs
 
Yet now suddenly they are coming up in WindDAC32, all present and
correct. Very strange.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:53:49 +0100, Java Jive
wrote:
... and this database doesn't have many, perhaps even most, of my CDs
listed. The first two I tried today were missing:

Audience Friends, Friends, Friend
Clannad The Ultimate Collection

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UnsteadyKen June 26th 12 01:05 AM

Backing Up My CDs
 

Java Jive wrote...

I plan to back up to *.WAV files, and scan the cover artwork.

I've tried most of the freeware CD rippers.
For accurate rips then Exact Audio Copy is very good.
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
But it is a pain to set up and work with, especially getting it to name
and tag the resulting files.

For a quick and easy solution have a look at Audio Grabber.
http://www.audiograbber.org/
This works well and is easier to set up than EAC but is still fiddly to
use.

I've ended up using a combination of Windows Media Player 11
and Mp3tag http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

WMP will name and place files as wanted, automatically adds album
artwork and is a pretty decent player and music organiser. It is
rumoured to use the All Music Guide to get the album info and this
works reasonably well but is very USA centric i.e. bog standard UK
albums are sometimes labelled (Import) etc. the biggest drawback is
that it is pretty hopeless at getting info for classical music, which
doesn't bother me much as I haven't ripped any of my classic stuff,
sacrilege:-)

Mp3tag is an essential bit of kit for tidying up and for renaming,
tagging and adding album artwork to albums and music for which the info
is not in any online database and downloaded music such as that from
Jamendo http://www.jamendo.com/en which is an endless source of
enjoyment.

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Jim Lesurf[_2_] June 26th 12 08:10 AM

Backing Up My CDs
 
In article , Java Jive
wrote:


Meanwhile, the data for both the above IS held at the now-no-longer-free
CDDB database for which I have long held a developer ID (which is how I
know).


Can anyone suggest a Windows for preference, or failing that perhaps
Linux, ripping program which:


!! Like WinDAC32, absolutely must allow ripping to wave files without
altering content.


!! Like WinDAC32, allows configuration of how the resulting files are
named, and saved in sub-directories.


++ Preferably allows me to use the CDDB database as well as the freedb
one.


+- Failing that, at least allows me to update the freedb database so
that I only have to set up the details once?


I don't know if it would suit, but someone mentioned 'abcde' to me a while
ago in a similar context. This seems to be a script system that uses
elements you can pick-and-mix.

Personally, I just use cdparanoia and then sox along with my own editing
tools. However my main interest in CD ripping has been home-recorded discs
which won't be on any 'database'.

As a BTW, I wonder if *any* ripping software can detect and process 'HDCD'
discs. I've continued to look into HDCD and it seems quite a murky area in
practice.

Slainte,

Jim

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Eiron[_3_] June 27th 12 09:44 PM

Backing Up My CDs
 
On 25/06/2012 22:53, Java Jive wrote:
Having last year successfully backed up my vinyls, I now want to do
the same with my CDs, of which a have something over 200. Not only
will they then be backed up against, loss, theft, or damage, but also
could be played directly by a media player.

I plan to back up to *.WAV files, and scan the cover artwork.

Currently I'm using WinDAC32 for the ripping. It rips the tracks
fine and is well-configurable as regards the resulting file titles,
etc. The trouble is that is insists on using the database at ...

freedb.freedb.org

... and this database doesn't have many, perhaps even most, of my CDs
listed. The first two I tried today were missing:

Audience Friends, Friends, Friend
Clannad The Ultimate Collection

Perhaps the 70s progressive rock band Audience not being there is no



You want to save prog albums as individual tracks?
I usually identify which tracks run into each other
and save each group of tracks as a separate file.
But I don't like clicks and gaps in my music.

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Java Jive June 27th 12 11:23 PM

Backing Up My CDs
 
Yes, I've already encountered this with Sgt Pepper, where some of the
tracks run into the next. It's a problem, but I'll solve it later,
for now, I have reasons for wanting to digitise my life as quickly and
simply as possible.

Currently doing about 20 CDs a day, so should finish in a fortnight or
so. The thing that really takes the time is scanning the artwork,
etc.

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:44:06 +0100, Eiron
wrote:

You want to save prog albums as individual tracks?
I usually identify which tracks run into each other
and save each group of tracks as a separate file.
But I don't like clicks and gaps in my music.

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