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Sony HAR-LH500



 
 
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Old November 11th 03, 11:22 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim Hobbs
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Default Sony HAR-LH500

I've had my Sony hard disk recorder for about a month, and have
managed to load about 200 CD's into it. Tonight it has decided that
all my files are in PCM format when they are actually ATRAC. Hence I
get nothing but white noise.

Obviously it's going back to the shop tomorrow, but I just wondered if
anyone else had this problem with their machine?

I think I'll make my own PC-based solution...
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Old November 16th 03, 07:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default Sony HAR-LH500

Ouch... that's nasty...

Have you tried accessing the player through the M-Crew software? How
about adding new albums as ATRAC's onto it?

I've had mine for about a month, too. Got around 190 albums on there
with no issues so far... (cue frantic touching of wood...)

I'm generally pretty impressed with mine. I played around with a
PC-based solution prior to this, but couldn't get round the issue of
having at least one fan (in the PSU) running, which spoilt the
listening experience. As a result I've got a Keycorp 12" monitor sat
here doing nothing, if you're interested....?!

GP.

Tim Hobbs wrote in message . ..
I've had my Sony hard disk recorder for about a month, and have
managed to load about 200 CD's into it. Tonight it has decided that
all my files are in PCM format when they are actually ATRAC. Hence I
get nothing but white noise.

Obviously it's going back to the shop tomorrow, but I just wondered if
anyone else had this problem with their machine?

I think I'll make my own PC-based solution...

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Old November 16th 03, 07:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default Sony HAR-LH500

Ouch... that's nasty...

Have you tried accessing the player through the M-Crew software? How
about adding new albums as ATRAC's onto it?

I've had mine for about a month, too. Got around 190 albums on there
with no issues so far... (cue frantic touching of wood...)

I'm generally pretty impressed with mine. I played around with a
PC-based solution prior to this, but couldn't get round the issue of
having at least one fan (in the PSU) running, which spoilt the
listening experience. As a result I've got a Keycorp 12" monitor sat
here doing nothing, if you're interested....?!

GP.

Tim Hobbs wrote in message . ..
I've had my Sony hard disk recorder for about a month, and have
managed to load about 200 CD's into it. Tonight it has decided that
all my files are in PCM format when they are actually ATRAC. Hence I
get nothing but white noise.

Obviously it's going back to the shop tomorrow, but I just wondered if
anyone else had this problem with their machine?

I think I'll make my own PC-based solution...

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Old November 16th 03, 08:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim Hobbs
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Default Sony HAR-LH500

On 16 Nov 2003 12:19:22 -0800, (GoogolPost)
wrote:

Ouch... that's nasty...

Have you tried accessing the player through the M-Crew software? How
about adding new albums as ATRAC's onto it?

SNIP

As a result I've got a Keycorp 12" monitor sat
here doing nothing, if you're interested....?!

GP.


Yes, the first indication that it was buggered was that the M-Crew
software hung and then wouldn't let me compress the latest added CD.
Then I realised that it was claiming that the first 170 CD's were in
PCM format, when I knew they weren't. When I played them I got white
noise, so the player clearly believed that they were PCM and was
trying to play them as such.

The latest added CD's play fine, but I cannot convert them to ATRAC
from M-Crew because the button is greyed out for some reason.

I may be able to delete all the albums (one by one, because M-Crew
won't let me) and then start again, but as you can imagine I am not
confident about doing that. I figure that right now I've got a good
chance of getting a refund and doing something else. Leave it any
longer and I'll be into getting it repaired (which won't work, because
it seems certain it's a software bug).

There are some motherboards out there without fans, and they can be
powered by external solid state transformers. The Shuttle box I am
getting does have a fan, but it is very quiet. The box will be tucked
away (several feet from the speakers) so I'm hoping it's not a big
problem.

I don't need the monitor thanks - I'm hoping to pick up a decent size
flat telly shortly after Crimbo...

--
Tim Hobbs
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Old November 16th 03, 08:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim Hobbs
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Default Sony HAR-LH500

On 16 Nov 2003 12:19:22 -0800, (GoogolPost)
wrote:

Ouch... that's nasty...

Have you tried accessing the player through the M-Crew software? How
about adding new albums as ATRAC's onto it?

SNIP

As a result I've got a Keycorp 12" monitor sat
here doing nothing, if you're interested....?!

GP.


Yes, the first indication that it was buggered was that the M-Crew
software hung and then wouldn't let me compress the latest added CD.
Then I realised that it was claiming that the first 170 CD's were in
PCM format, when I knew they weren't. When I played them I got white
noise, so the player clearly believed that they were PCM and was
trying to play them as such.

The latest added CD's play fine, but I cannot convert them to ATRAC
from M-Crew because the button is greyed out for some reason.

I may be able to delete all the albums (one by one, because M-Crew
won't let me) and then start again, but as you can imagine I am not
confident about doing that. I figure that right now I've got a good
chance of getting a refund and doing something else. Leave it any
longer and I'll be into getting it repaired (which won't work, because
it seems certain it's a software bug).

There are some motherboards out there without fans, and they can be
powered by external solid state transformers. The Shuttle box I am
getting does have a fan, but it is very quiet. The box will be tucked
away (several feet from the speakers) so I'm hoping it's not a big
problem.

I don't need the monitor thanks - I'm hoping to pick up a decent size
flat telly shortly after Crimbo...

--
Tim Hobbs
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Old November 17th 03, 07:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
GoogolPost
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Default Sony HAR-LH500

When I tried with a PC-based solution I was using a VIA C3 chip - an
800MHz fanless jobbie. It worked well - it was certainly fast enough
for an MP3 player... Maybe I should've tried harder to get a fanless
CPU... Problem I had was that I had a CD writer in there too; they
tend to use quite a bit of power when they're writing and took the
total load over the 55W I could've got from a typical fanless PSU.

Thinking about it - I think if I was to try a PC solution again I'd
try and use mainly laptop components (HD drive, writer, etc) to keep
the load down.

Bit of a shame about the HAR-LH500, though. It's fairly quick, but you
still end up investing a lot of time copying albums to it - not
something you want to disappear at the whim of a bug...


There are some motherboards out there without fans, and they can be
powered by external solid state transformers. The Shuttle box I am
getting does have a fan, but it is very quiet. The box will be tucked
away (several feet from the speakers) so I'm hoping it's not a big
problem.

I don't need the monitor thanks - I'm hoping to pick up a decent size
flat telly shortly after Crimbo...

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Old November 17th 03, 07:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
GoogolPost
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Posts: 3
Default Sony HAR-LH500

When I tried with a PC-based solution I was using a VIA C3 chip - an
800MHz fanless jobbie. It worked well - it was certainly fast enough
for an MP3 player... Maybe I should've tried harder to get a fanless
CPU... Problem I had was that I had a CD writer in there too; they
tend to use quite a bit of power when they're writing and took the
total load over the 55W I could've got from a typical fanless PSU.

Thinking about it - I think if I was to try a PC solution again I'd
try and use mainly laptop components (HD drive, writer, etc) to keep
the load down.

Bit of a shame about the HAR-LH500, though. It's fairly quick, but you
still end up investing a lot of time copying albums to it - not
something you want to disappear at the whim of a bug...


There are some motherboards out there without fans, and they can be
powered by external solid state transformers. The Shuttle box I am
getting does have a fan, but it is very quiet. The box will be tucked
away (several feet from the speakers) so I'm hoping it's not a big
problem.

I don't need the monitor thanks - I'm hoping to pick up a decent size
flat telly shortly after Crimbo...

 




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