Behringer ADCs, etc
 

I'm experimenting with a Behringer UCA202 ADC+DAC but I'm also interested
in some of their better models like the UMC202 which can provide 96k/24.
(Plus also perhaps alternative makes.)

Anyone had any experience of these for playing or recording via USB? And
any particular suggestions for a *UK* dealer I might buy from who will deal
via email/letter/etc rather than being an anonymous website into which you
have to poke credit card details? Be good to be able to talk to a dealer
who has a clue and can advise, etc.

FWIW I have a UCA202 and have got it working OK. But its limited to 48k/16
and I'd like to experiment with something better as a way using my own
software to let me use my computers as audio test stations, etc. So this
isn't just for music - although that clearly matters! :-)

One aspect of the 'better' Behringer goes outside my experience as it uses
XLR+TRS jacks for input. Are these both going to be balanced? If so, do
they also float so you can't just use +ve against ground? I'm not familiar
with such 'prosumer' kit that is clearly aimed at people who want a 'small
studio' rather than domestic hifi.

I've tried to send an email to Behringer via their website forms as they
seem to have no public email address. I'll see if I get any reply.

Cheers,

Jim

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Behringer ADCs, etc
 

On 24/01/2014 11:41 PM, Jim Lesurf wrote:
I'm experimenting with a Behringer UCA202 ADC+DAC but I'm also interested
in some of their better models like the UMC202 which can provide 96k/24.
(Plus also perhaps alternative makes.)

Anyone had any experience of these for playing or recording via USB? And
any particular suggestions for a *UK* dealer I might buy from who will deal
via email/letter/etc rather than being an anonymous website into which you
have to poke credit card details? Be good to be able to talk to a dealer
who has a clue and can advise, etc.

FWIW I have a UCA202 and have got it working OK. But its limited to 48k/16
and I'd like to experiment with something better as a way using my own
software to let me use my computers as audio test stations, etc. So this
isn't just for music - although that clearly matters! :-)

One aspect of the 'better' Behringer goes outside my experience as it uses
XLR+TRS jacks for input. Are these both going to be balanced? If so, do
they also float so you can't just use +ve against ground? I'm not familiar
with such 'prosumer' kit that is clearly aimed at people who want a 'small
studio' rather than domestic hifi.

I've tried to send an email to Behringer via their website forms as they
seem to have no public email address. I'll see if I get any reply.

Cheers,

Jim


**I just recieved my one of these:

http://quantasylum.com/content/Products/QA400.aspx

So far, I cannot get it to work with my desktop (64 bit Win 7), but that
is not unexpected, since I often experience issues with this machine.
When I get a chance, I'll try it with my laptop (32 bit Win XP Pro) and
report.

--
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Behringer ADCs, etc
 

In article , Trevor Wilson
wrote:
On 24/01/2014 11:41 PM, Jim Lesurf wrote:
I'm experimenting with a Behringer UCA202 ADC+DAC but I'm also
interested in some of their better models like the UMC202 which can
provide 96k/24. (Plus also perhaps alternative makes.)


**I just recieved my one of these:

http://quantasylum.com/content/Products/QA400.aspx

So far, I cannot get it to work with my desktop (64 bit Win 7), but that
is not unexpected, since I often experience issues with this machine.
When I get a chance, I'll try it with my laptop (32 bit Win XP Pro) and
report.

Interesting. :-) Thanks for pointing it out. It looks useful from my POV
in having unbalanced phonos for in and out rather than balanced XLR/jacks.
So more convenient for work with domestic kit.

However I'd not be wanting their software for any test/analysis processes
as I'd write my own. (Indeed, I've have already started on that.) So the
key details for me would be things like if it shows up as a fairly standard
USBAudio set of inputs and outputs. If so, I can then use it with Linux and
RO. If not, no use to me. I'll see if I can contact them or find out more.

The Behringer UCA202 does so show, and I've already used it for test
recordings and signals using RISC OS. The problem being it is limited to a
max of 48k/16. I've now had an auto-reply from Behringer along the lines of
"We'll reply soon" so am hoping for more substance in a day or two.

I bought a copy of 'Sound on Sound' on Friday for the first time in yonks
and had a look at the ads. One does mention a Steinberg UR22 which says it
is 24/192k. But gives almost no other details. Only 99 quid, though. Anyone
know about this?

Will Windows let you get a listing of the QA400's USB endpoint details,
etc? I don't use Windows so would need some details to know if it is stuck
in a 'Windows only' ghetto or not. Hence unless I can get info I'd need to
get a device so I can probe and test its USB interface.

Jim

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Behringer ADCs, etc
 

In article , Trevor Wilson
wrote:


**I just recieved my one of these:

http://quantasylum.com/content/Products/QA400.aspx

So far, I cannot get it to work with my desktop (64 bit Win 7), but that
is not unexpected, since I often experience issues with this machine.
When I get a chance, I'll try it with my laptop (32 bit Win XP Pro) and
report.

Have you made any progress with the above? I'd also be interested in if you
contacted quantasylum direct when buying it, and got a useful response from
anyone there. I've emailed them but had zero response. If it will do what I
want I'd buy one. But I need them to answer some questions. Failing that if
you get it working you may be able to say.

Similarly, as yet I've no more from Behringer. Just had their automated
"We'll get back to you within a working day"... last Friday.

I sometimes feel that some makers don't actually want to *sell* what they
make! :-/

FWIW I also looked at the specs of a 192k/24 ADC made by steinberg. But
only *one* of its two inputs had a line level option. And did this by
simply attenuating down to mic levels. Not so good for my purposes. I need
two inputs as synched stereo, decent line level. Unbalanced much preferred.
So the QA400 looks like a candidate.

Jim

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Behringer ADCs, etc
 

In article , Trevor Wilson
wrote:


**I just recieved my one of these:

http://quantasylum.com/content/Products/QA400.aspx

So far, I cannot get it to work with my desktop (64 bit Win 7), but that
is not unexpected, since I often experience issues with this machine.
When I get a chance, I'll try it with my laptop (32 bit Win XP Pro) and
report.

I've now exchanged emails with quantasylum. It seems that their device does
*not* use the standard Release 1/2 USB Audio protocols. If that's correct
it will be useless from my POV as I need to be able to write open programs
for platforms like Linux and RISC OS. Not be tied by a binary driver or
their own software. Shame as otherwise it looks good. I'd be interested to
hear how you get on with it.

FWIW I've now had an email from Behringer about their UMC202, etc. I've
asked them about this but not had a reply as yet. So I may just give up
waiting and buy one, fingers crossed.

I also emailed studiospares, but haven't yet had a response. I'll prod them
again, if only because I'd probably buy from them. Although the lack of
response makes me think maybe I'd be better looking elsewhere... :-/

Jim

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Focusrite 2.2 was Behringer ADCs, etc
 

Making progress with this seems like wading though treacle!

I've been exchanging discussions with someone who has an E-MU 0202 and it
looks like that doesn't fully work with Linux so is ruled out. No-one (inc
Studiospares) seem to be bothered to respond to emails from potential
buyers of the items I've been asking about.

At present the most likely bet seems to be the Focusrite scarlett 2i2.
However *they* have yet to answer an email I sent. But maybe they will
soon, who knows?

Failing any info I'll try and buy a 2i2. Which comes to the question of
which dealer? I'm reluctant to buy from Studiospares given their total
failure to show any sign they give a hoot for potential customers.

Anyone have experience with a UK retailer who sell things like this for
'prosumer studio/music' and who actually will *answer* emails. Even more,
then be willing to allow me to buy via letter+cheque rather than CC over a
website? Given the poor way people so far have reacted I admit I'm
reluctant to give any of them the trust of having my card details, etc.

Jim

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Focusrite 2.2 was Behringer ADCs, etc
 

In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus
Making progress with this seems like wading though treacle!

I've been exchanging discussions with someone who has an E-MU 0202 and it
looks like that doesn't fully work with Linux so is ruled out. No-one (inc
Studiospares) seem to be bothered to respond to emails from potential
buyers of the items I've been asking about.

At present the most likely bet seems to be the Focusrite scarlett 2i2.

Got one of they, what do you want to do with it?..

However *they* have yet to answer an email I sent. But maybe they will
soon, who knows?

Failing any info I'll try and buy a 2i2. Which comes to the question of
which dealer? I'm reluctant to buy from Studiospares given their total
failure to show any sign they give a hoot for potential customers.

Anyone have experience with a UK retailer who sell things like this for
'prosumer studio/music' and who actually will *answer* emails.

Don't know as we have a branch of this lot in Cambridge, Digital
village, so I tend to go there but the staff are very helpful anyway on
the phone, never mailed them...

Even more,
then be willing to allow me to buy via letter+cheque rather than CC over a
website? Given the poor way people so far have reacted I admit I'm
reluctant to give any of them the trust of having my card details, etc.



Http://www.dv247.com/computer-hardwa...rlett-2i2-usb-
audio-interface--90034

When I bought mine they bundled it with quite a nice microphone and pop
shield:)..

Jim


--
Tony Sayer

Focusrite 2.2 was Behringer ADCs, etc
 

On 10/02/2014 16:58, Jim Lesurf wrote:

Anyone have experience with a UK retailer who sell things like this for
'prosumer studio/music' and who actually will *answer* emails. Even more,

Visiosound seemed pretty good: http://www.visiosound.co.uk
I exchanged emails with their techie Ben Jessen about microphones.

--
Eiron.

Focusrite 2.2 was Behringer ADCs, etc
 

In article , tony sayer

wrote:
In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus
Making progress with this seems like wading though treacle!

I've been exchanging discussions with someone who has an E-MU 0202 and
it looks like that doesn't fully work with Linux so is ruled out.
No-one (inc Studiospares) seem to be bothered to respond to emails from
potential buyers of the items I've been asking about.

At present the most likely bet seems to be the Focusrite scarlett 2i2.

Got one of they, what do you want to do with it?..

Intially I want to experiment and see if I can use it OK with Linux and
RISC OS. From the web it 'looks promising' but I won't know until I can run
some USB Audio probe and test routines on one. If it follows the published
USB audio class standards it should work.

Once I can get past that successfully I want to do two things.

1) Experiment with using it to record and see how good the results may be.
The aim being that it will serve as an example I can write about for people
who want to make 96k/24 digital copies of their analogue LPs, etc. Using
the OS of their choice. i.e. not just Windows/Macs but also Linux, RISC OS
and any other system which can handle devices using the USB Audio
standards.

2) Develop some of the audio test and measurement programs I use so that I
can release them free and open source for others. Who could then use them
on 'any OS' to do their own audio checks on equipment. Initially I'd adapt
the 'scope/fft analyser' and 'sig gen' progs I have, but plan to add in IQ
tests (timing) wow and flutter, etc.

Erm... if I could maybe borrow yours for a week to try that'd help. :-)

Failing that or a reply from Focusrite I'll just have to cross my fingers,
buy one, and hope I can get it to work OK.



Anyone have experience with a UK retailer who sell things like this for
'prosumer studio/music' and who actually will *answer* emails.

Don't know as we have a branch of this lot in Cambridge, Digital
village, so I tend to go there but the staff are very helpful anyway on
the phone, never mailed them...

Even more, then be willing to allow me to buy via letter+cheque rather
than CC over a website? Given the poor way people so far have reacted I
admit I'm reluctant to give any of them the trust of having my card
details, etc.



Http://www.dv247.com/computer-hardwa...rlett-2i2-usb-
audio-interface--90034

When I bought mine they bundled it with quite a nice microphone and pop
shield:)..

OK, thanks. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Focusrite 2.2 was Behringer ADCs, etc
 

In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 10/02/2014 16:58, Jim Lesurf wrote:

Anyone have experience with a UK retailer who sell things like this
for 'prosumer studio/music' and who actually will *answer* emails.
Even more,

Visiosound seemed pretty good: http://www.visiosound.co.uk I exchanged
emails with their techie Ben Jessen about microphones.

Thanks. Noted. :-)

Jim

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