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Dave Plowman (News) July 16th 14 04:13 PM

Balanced to unbalanced.
 
Have a quite old M-Audio DAC feeding TV sound via Toslink to the Hi-Fi,
which works ok. But the actual audio level is a bit low compared to the
radio tuner, CD, etc. The output level from the TV is fixed.

The DAC has both XLR balanced and 1/4" jack unbalanced outputs. Thought
this odd 'till I looked inside - it uses discrete transistors to drive
both, and both can be used at the same time.

Levels are nominally +4dBu balanced, -10 dBu unbalanced.

To use the XLRs as unbalanced, you'd normally short cold and ground. But
I'm not sure this would be a good idea with its drivers - and don't want
to risk damaging it.

Any cheap solution to do what I want - ie about 6 dB or so of gain over
the unbalanced outputs?

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Jim Lesurf[_2_] July 16th 14 04:49 PM

Balanced to unbalanced.
 
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
Have a quite old M-Audio DAC feeding TV sound via Toslink to the Hi-Fi,
which works ok. But the actual audio level is a bit low compared to the
radio tuner, CD, etc. The output level from the TV is fixed.


The DAC has both XLR balanced and 1/4" jack unbalanced outputs. Thought
this odd 'till I looked inside - it uses discrete transistors to drive
both, and both can be used at the same time.


Levels are nominally +4dBu balanced, -10 dBu unbalanced.


To use the XLRs as unbalanced, you'd normally short cold and ground. But
I'm not sure this would be a good idea with its drivers - and don't want
to risk damaging it.


Any cheap solution to do what I want - ie about 6 dB or so of gain over
the unbalanced outputs?


If I read that correctly, just using the +ve balanced against ground should
give you -2 dBu. i.e. more than 6dB above the unbalanced output's -10dBu.
Leave the -ve unconnected. I'm assuming the output isn't floating isolated
balanced.

Jim

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Dave Plowman (News) July 16th 14 05:27 PM

Balanced to unbalanced.
 
In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
Have a quite old M-Audio DAC feeding TV sound via Toslink to the Hi-Fi,
which works ok. But the actual audio level is a bit low compared to the
radio tuner, CD, etc. The output level from the TV is fixed.


The DAC has both XLR balanced and 1/4" jack unbalanced outputs. Thought
this odd 'till I looked inside - it uses discrete transistors to drive
both, and both can be used at the same time.


Levels are nominally +4dBu balanced, -10 dBu unbalanced.


To use the XLRs as unbalanced, you'd normally short cold and ground.
But I'm not sure this would be a good idea with its drivers - and
don't want to risk damaging it.


Any cheap solution to do what I want - ie about 6 dB or so of gain
over the unbalanced outputs?


If I read that correctly, just using the +ve balanced against ground
should give you -2 dBu. i.e. more than 6dB above the unbalanced output's
-10dBu. Leave the -ve unconnected. I'm assuming the output isn't
floating isolated balanced.


Thanks Jim - I'll give that a try.

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Dave Plowman (News) July 17th 14 09:00 AM

Balanced to unbalanced.
 
OT to the thread, but the PS in this DAC is unusual. Uses a 1 amp 9 volt
AC wallwart. Internal PS seems to be conventional, ie not SMPS, but there
are two 1 amp voltage regulators, plus and minus 15v, and the main
smoothing caps are marked as 35v.

How do they do this?

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