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Old February 16th 15, 01:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Sumatriptan
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Yesterday, I got a Dual 505 on Ebay for £77. I know there are Denons,
Thorens etc. around but I have a budget...

Here's why I chose it:

The price was right! I've seen them on sale for £120+ and another Dual
505 on Ebay for 'spares or repairs' went for £60 just after I snagged mine.

A reputation for solid, long lasting performance. Made in Germany before
manufacturing went to China in 2000.

Unlike the 506, the headshell will take standard cartridges which brings
me to..

It has a M55E cartridge which the seller tells me was recently fitted.

Comes with Dual's ultra low mass tone arm.

With manual and in original packaging.

Support and spares such as belts seem to be readily available, although
the seller says he isn't aware of any issues.

I see a few people doubting if vinyl--digital is worth it. Rationally,
I'm not sure either but I think it will be fun trying.






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Old February 16th 15, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sumatriptan View Post
Yesterday, I got a Dual 505 on Ebay for £77.
I've seen them on sale for £120+ and another Dual 505 on Ebay for 'spares or repairs' went for £60 just after I snagged mine.
Which model of 505 did you buy?
Inflation aside, £77.00 isn't far off what a CS 505-1 cost when it was new.

Back in the day, the mags would have us believe a
Dual CS 505-1 turntable + New Acoustic Dimension 3020 integrated amplifier + a pair of Acoustic Research AR19 loudspeakers
was the best buy budget system to own.

Ah, dreams of Rega Planar 3 and A&R Cambridge A60...
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Old February 16th 15, 08:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Sumatriptan
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Default Dual 505

On 16/02/2015 16:44, John R Leddy wrote:
Sumatriptan;93653 Wrote:
Yesterday, I got a Dual 505 on Ebay for £77.
I've seen them on sale for £120+ and another Dual 505 on Ebay for
'spares or repairs' went for £60 just after I snagged mine.

Which model of 505 did you buy?
Inflation aside, £77.00 isn't far off what a CS 505-1 cost when it was
new.

Back in the day, the mags would have us believe a
Dual CS 505-1 turntable + New Acoustic Dimension 3020 integrated
amplifier + a pair of Acoustic Research AR19 loudspeakers
was the best buy budget system to own.

Ah, dreams of Rega Planar 3 and A&R Cambridge A60...




Dreams indeed

It's a CS 505-1


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Old February 16th 15, 08:16 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trevor Wilson
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Default Dual 505

On 17/02/2015 8:13 AM, Sumatriptan wrote:
On 16/02/2015 16:44, John R Leddy wrote:
Sumatriptan;93653 Wrote:
Yesterday, I got a Dual 505 on Ebay for £77.
I've seen them on sale for £120+ and another Dual 505 on Ebay for
'spares or repairs' went for £60 just after I snagged mine.

Which model of 505 did you buy?
Inflation aside, £77.00 isn't far off what a CS 505-1 cost when it was
new.

Back in the day, the mags would have us believe a
Dual CS 505-1 turntable + New Acoustic Dimension 3020 integrated
amplifier + a pair of Acoustic Research AR19 loudspeakers
was the best buy budget system to own.

Ah, dreams of Rega Planar 3 and A&R Cambridge A60...




Dreams indeed

It's a CS 505-1


**That is bad news. Send it back if you can.


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Old February 16th 15, 09:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Woody[_4_]
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"John R Leddy" wrote in
message ...

Sumatriptan;93653 Wrote:
Yesterday, I got a Dual 505 on Ebay for £77.
I've seen them on sale for £120+ and another Dual 505 on Ebay for
'spares or repairs' went for £60 just after I snagged mine.

Which model of 505 did you buy?
Inflation aside, £77.00 isn't far off what a CS 505-1 cost when it
was
new.

Back in the day, the mags would have us believe a
Dual CS 505-1 turntable + New Acoustic Dimension 3020 integrated
amplifier + a pair of Acoustic Research AR19 loudspeakers
was the best buy budget system to own.

+1

Ah, dreams of Rega Planar 3 and A&R Cambridge A60...





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Old February 16th 15, 01:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David B
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Default Dual 505

"Sumatriptan" wrote in message
...
Yesterday, I got a Dual 505 on Ebay for £77. I know there are Denons,
Thorens etc. around but I have a budget...

Here's why I chose it:

The price was right! I've seen them on sale for £120+ and another Dual 505
on Ebay for 'spares or repairs' went for £60 just after I snagged mine.

A reputation for solid, long lasting performance. Made in Germany before
manufacturing went to China in 2000.

Unlike the 506, the headshell will take standard cartridges which brings
me to..

It has a M55E cartridge which the seller tells me was recently fitted.

Comes with Dual's ultra low mass tone arm.

With manual and in original packaging.

Support and spares such as belts seem to be readily available, although
the seller says he isn't aware of any issues.

I see a few people doubting if vinyl--digital is worth it. Rationally,
I'm not sure either but I think it will be fun trying.


They are perfectly reasonable turntables although probably not my choice.
Whether it's worth it or not is totally a personal decision but if you're
listening to your LPs anyway then why not copy them while at it?
My suggestion would be to simply keep the turntable and use it to listen to
your albums (assuming you have a moving magnet phono stage on your
amplifier).
Personally I've not been happy with the mastering on the vast majority of
CDs I've bought compared to the vinyl equivalent, yes, the CD format SHOULD
be better but I've not found that. A lot have very compressed dynamic range
which may be good for listening to in a car but not when at home.
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Old February 16th 15, 01:47 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Sumatriptan
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Default Dual 505

Yes, recording to lossless digital was my original interest..see the
Vinyl to digital thread.

I do have an ancient amplifier with mm phono input (anyone remember the
Texan amp kit?) to do initial testing but my aim is to get a preamp to
convert to line level for PC input. I may get a battery preamp as
suggested by Jim in the other thread.

My feelings regarding CD mastering are similar to yours. They are often
'in yer face' and seem harsh compared to my memories of the same
material on vinyl. Will be interesting to know if it is just nostalgia
or if I can really hear much difference.

Tony

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Old February 16th 15, 04:49 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default Dual 505

If by phone input you mean one with RIAA bias-correction, then why not
just take the line out of that amp to your soundcard instead. That's
what I did, the results were very acceptable, and I reckoned it was a
lot easier than faffing around with a preamp, and trying to avoid it
introducing hum that I'd already spent so many hours trying to remove.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:47:58 +0000, Sumatriptan
wrote:

I do have an ancient amplifier with mm phono input (anyone remember the
Texan amp kit?) to do initial testing but my aim is to get a preamp to
convert to line level for PC input. I may get a battery preamp as
suggested by Jim in the other thread.

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Old February 16th 15, 05:06 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eiron[_3_]
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Default Dual 505

On 16/02/2015 17:49, Java Jive wrote:
If by phone input you mean one with RIAA bias-correction, then why not
just take the line out of that amp to your soundcard instead. That's
what I did, the results were very acceptable, and I reckoned it was a
lot easier than faffing around with a preamp, and trying to avoid it
introducing hum that I'd already spent so many hours trying to remove.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:47:58 +0000, Sumatriptan
wrote:

I do have an ancient amplifier with mm phono input (anyone remember the
Texan amp kit?)



Is the Texan phono input stage good enough? I doubt it.

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Old February 16th 15, 06:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Sumatriptan
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Default Dual 505

On 16/02/2015 18:06, Eiron wrote:
On 16/02/2015 17:49, Java Jive wrote:
If by phone input you mean one with RIAA bias-correction, then why not
just take the line out of that amp to your soundcard instead. That's
what I did, the results were very acceptable, and I reckoned it was a
lot easier than faffing around with a preamp, and trying to avoid it
introducing hum that I'd already spent so many hours trying to remove.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:47:58 +0000, Sumatriptan
wrote:

I do have an ancient amplifier with mm phono input (anyone remember the
Texan amp kit?)



Is the Texan phono input stage good enough? I doubt it.


It is RIAA but when I powered my Texan up a few years ago it had some
hum so I'm going to have to 'faff around' to fix it if I use it. Here's
a schematic:

http://www.angelfire.com/sd/paulkemble/sound8h.html

Love this, 'covering 5Hz--500kHz'

The line out is simply a potential divider across the speaker output. I
might try it as per Java Jive's suggestion. Haven't even got the tt yet
so nothing is definite atm.

 




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