Bluetooth hifi
 

I'm not too sure which group this post should go, so I'm hoping I'll get
some answers here.

At the Moment I have a rather old ,15 years, Denon DRA-F101 and a
DCD-F101, and I would like to replace it with something more modern!

By that I mean something with either bluetooth or wireless, as I have a
pair of wireless, not bluetooth, speakers. These are used to play
streamed music from my NAS box to my Android tablet in another room.
I was hoping that there would be a wireless HiFi I could get, but after
speaking to someone at Richer Sounds there are no wireless cd players
only bluetooth.

I have been looking at getting the Sonos Play 1 wireless speakers, but
can't work out how I could use them.
It would seem that the said wireless speakers can only be used with a
wireless device like laptop or tablet.

Are there any can do's and cannot do's with what I want

Bluetooth hifi
 

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BobH wrote:
Are there any can do's and cannot do's with what I want

Don't think either Wi-Fi or BlueTooth is capable of streaming uncompressed
high quality audio. You'd need to go to MP3 or whatever.

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Bluetooth hifi
 

On 22/06/2015 16:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
BobH wrote:
Are there any can do's and cannot do's with what I want

Don't think either Wi-Fi or BlueTooth is capable of streaming uncompressed
high quality audio. You'd need to go to MP3 or whatever.


All of my audio files are compressed to either flac or mp3, and they are
streamed to my tablet.

Bluetooth hifi
 

On 22/06/2015 16:26, BobH wrote:
I'm not too sure which group this post should go, so I'm hoping I'll get
some answers here.

At the Moment I have a rather old ,15 years, Denon DRA-F101 and a
DCD-F101, and I would like to replace it with something more modern!

By that I mean something with either bluetooth or wireless, as I have a
pair of wireless, not bluetooth, speakers. These are used to play
streamed music from my NAS box to my Android tablet in another room.
I was hoping that there would be a wireless HiFi I could get, but after
speaking to someone at Richer Sounds there are no wireless cd players
only bluetooth.

I have been looking at getting the Sonos Play 1 wireless speakers, but
can't work out how I could use them.
It would seem that the said wireless speakers can only be used with a
wireless device like laptop or tablet.

Are there any can do's and cannot do's with what I want

You'd need something to transmit the audio to the speakers. That's
either going to be a transmitter within the hifi, or a bolt on
transmitter that takes and sends the analogue or digital signal. How do
your current speakers work?

It obviously can be done, as Dynaudio do it:

http://www.dynaudio.com/home-audio/xeo/

And wireless transmitters exist. Probably need to know more about your
speakers to comment further.

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Cheers, Rob

Bluetooth hifi
 

On 22/06/2015 16:55, BobH wrote:
All of my audio files are compressed to either flac or mp3, and they are
streamed to my tablet.

AIUI Bluetooth uses its own codec (1). Which means all your compressed
audio files would be decompressed, then recompressed, then decompressed,
then played. Not good.

Of course some specialist devices may do their own thing - but caveat
emptor.

(1) Ah yes - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_%28codec%29 "It was
designed to obtain a reasonably good audio quality at medium bit rates
while keeping low computational complexity"

Andy

Bluetooth hifi
 

Well delay times is one problem. I don't know if there are any clever fixes
to this, but wires seem to be far better for lack of phase errors echoes
dropouts, and general degradation of clarity.
Brian

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"BobH" wrote in message
...
I'm not too sure which group this post should go, so I'm hoping I'll get
some answers here.

At the Moment I have a rather old ,15 years, Denon DRA-F101 and a
DCD-F101, and I would like to replace it with something more modern!

By that I mean something with either bluetooth or wireless, as I have a
pair of wireless, not bluetooth, speakers. These are used to play streamed
music from my NAS box to my Android tablet in another room.
I was hoping that there would be a wireless HiFi I could get, but after
speaking to someone at Richer Sounds there are no wireless cd players only
bluetooth.

I have been looking at getting the Sonos Play 1 wireless speakers, but
can't work out how I could use them.
It would seem that the said wireless speakers can only be used with a
wireless device like laptop or tablet.

Are there any can do's and cannot do's with what I want

Bluetooth hifi
 

I pity you then. Flac has lots of latency as its a bit like a zip file. MP3
is lossy as hell, kind of what cassette was to hi fi before, tolerable but
not really great.
Brian

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On 22/06/2015 16:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
BobH wrote:
Are there any can do's and cannot do's with what I want

Don't think either Wi-Fi or BlueTooth is capable of streaming
uncompressed
high quality audio. You'd need to go to MP3 or whatever.


All of my audio files are compressed to either flac or mp3, and they are
streamed to my tablet.

Bluetooth hifi
 

Yes, just re encode some commercially downloadable files and listen to the
warble grittiness and fuzzy sound field baby...
Brian

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On 22/06/2015 16:55, BobH wrote:
All of my audio files are compressed to either flac or mp3, and they are
streamed to my tablet.

AIUI Bluetooth uses its own codec (1). Which means all your compressed
audio files would be decompressed, then recompressed, then decompressed,
then played. Not good.

Of course some specialist devices may do their own thing - but caveat
emptor.

(1) Ah yes - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_%28codec%29 "It was
designed to obtain a reasonably good audio quality at medium bit rates
while keeping low computational complexity"

Andy

Bluetooth hifi
 

On 22/06/2015 22:24, Brian-Gaff wrote:
wrote:

All of my audio files aree compressed to either flac or mp3, and they are
streamed to my tablet.


I pity you then. Flac has lots of latency as its a bit like a zip file. MP3
is lossy as hell, kind of what cassette was to hi fi before, tolerable but
not really great.
Brian


If by latency you mean the delay from transmit to receive, I think it's
only a tiny fraction of a second. And it's not as if that matters - it
doesn't have to sync to anything.

On mp3, I think you're being a bit harsh, especially for high 320ish
encoding rates.

Not been impressed with some Bluetooth (hissy and muffled), but
strangely a soundbar I bought (Tannoy) sounds surprisingly good


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