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Graeme Wall July 8th 15 09:19 AM

Silly question!
 
Probably a silly question to bring up on this group but does anyone have
any opinions on the USB turntables John Lewis are selling?

The reason I ask is I've discovered a box full of 1960s singles that I'd
quite like to stick on my iThings and can't be fagged trying to marry
the hi-fi and computer together to do the job properly as it would
involve major rewiring sessions to get them into the same room.

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Jim Lesurf[_2_] July 8th 15 12:35 PM

Silly question!
 
In article , Graeme Wall
wrote:
Probably a silly question to bring up on this group but does anyone have
any opinions on the USB turntables John Lewis are selling?


The reason I ask is I've discovered a box full of 1960s singles that I'd
quite like to stick on my iThings and can't be fagged trying to marry
the hi-fi and computer together to do the job properly as it would
involve major rewiring sessions to get them into the same room.


If you have a laptop available it might be cheaper and give better results
to buy a machine-powered USB ADC like the ones sold by Behringer or
Focusrite. See

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/ADC/USBrecording.html

for some more info.

Jim

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Dave Plowman (News) July 8th 15 01:00 PM

Silly question!
 
In article ,
Graeme Wall wrote:
Probably a silly question to bring up on this group but does anyone have
any opinions on the USB turntables John Lewis are selling?


Probably very average in every way.

The reason I ask is I've discovered a box full of 1960s singles that I'd
quite like to stick on my iThings and can't be fagged trying to marry
the hi-fi and computer together to do the job properly as it would
involve major rewiring sessions to get them into the same room.


If you already have a decent record deck, buy an RIAA pre-amp and connect
that to the line in on your computer. Cheaper, takes up a lot less room to
store afterwards, and likely better. You can get battery powered ones.

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Graeme Wall July 8th 15 05:52 PM

Silly question!
 
On 08/07/2015 13:35, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Graeme Wall
wrote:
Probably a silly question to bring up on this group but does anyone have
any opinions on the USB turntables John Lewis are selling?


The reason I ask is I've discovered a box full of 1960s singles that I'd
quite like to stick on my iThings and can't be fagged trying to marry
the hi-fi and computer together to do the job properly as it would
involve major rewiring sessions to get them into the same room.


If you have a laptop available it might be cheaper and give better results
to buy a machine-powered USB ADC like the ones sold by Behringer or
Focusrite. See

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/ADC/USBrecording.html

for some more info.


Looks interesting but I don't have a laptop unfortunately!


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Graeme Wall
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Michael Kellett July 9th 15 08:08 AM

Silly question!
 
Graeme Wall:
Probably a silly question to bring up on this group but does anyone

have
any opinions on the USB turntables John Lewis are selling?

The reason I ask is I've discovered a box full of 1960s singles that

I'd
quite like to stick on my iThings and can't be fagged trying to marry


the hi-fi and computer together to do the job properly as it would
involve major rewiring sessions to get them into the same room.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.


The Audio Technica AT-LP120 USB Turntable (£270) would probably be OK
but the cartridge fitted isn't what I would choose. The cheaper ones
look dreadful - but for £70 for everything you can't expect any
better.

Michael Kellett

Brian-Gaff July 9th 15 09:26 AM

Silly question!
 
Well for singles it probably does not matter that much.
However not knowing the ones you refer to, I could not hazard a guess.
The interfacing of a computer should be easy, why not pick up any old xp
machine and shove it on the hend of the hi fi, once you have the wav files
you can copy them to a ram stick and process them on your favourite audio
editor in the other room.

That is what I do and you only need a 1gig machiine with say an 80 gig ide
drive and say the demo copy of goldwave with either on board audio or a
cheap old sound card.
Brian

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"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
Probably a silly question to bring up on this group but does anyone have
any opinions on the USB turntables John Lewis are selling?

The reason I ask is I've discovered a box full of 1960s singles that I'd
quite like to stick on my iThings and can't be fagged trying to marry the
hi-fi and computer together to do the job properly as it would involve
major rewiring sessions to get them into the same room.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.




Dave Plowman (News) July 9th 15 10:03 AM

Silly question!
 
In article ,
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 08/07/2015 13:35, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Graeme Wall
wrote:
Probably a silly question to bring up on this group but does anyone have
any opinions on the USB turntables John Lewis are selling?


The reason I ask is I've discovered a box full of 1960s singles that I'd
quite like to stick on my iThings and can't be fagged trying to marry
the hi-fi and computer together to do the job properly as it would
involve major rewiring sessions to get them into the same room.


If you have a laptop available it might be cheaper and give better results
to buy a machine-powered USB ADC like the ones sold by Behringer or
Focusrite. See

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/ADC/USBrecording.html

for some more info.


Looks interesting but I don't have a laptop unfortunately!


But if you do have an existing record deck, that could surely be moved to
the computer easily? Or you could use a wireless link between the existing
Hi-Fi and computer. That could also be useful for other things.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Jim Lesurf[_2_] July 9th 15 11:33 AM

Silly question!
 
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Graeme Wall
wrote:
On 08/07/2015 13:35, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Graeme Wall
wrote:
Probably a silly question to bring up on this group but does anyone
have any opinions on the USB turntables John Lewis are selling?

The reason I ask is I've discovered a box full of 1960s singles
that I'd quite like to stick on my iThings and can't be fagged
trying to marry the hi-fi and computer together to do the job
properly as it would involve major rewiring sessions to get them
into the same room.

If you have a laptop available it might be cheaper and give better
results to buy a machine-powered USB ADC like the ones sold by
Behringer or Focusrite. See

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/ADC/USBrecording.html

for some more info.


Looks interesting but I don't have a laptop unfortunately!


But if you do have an existing record deck, that could surely be moved
to the computer easily? Or you could use a wireless link between the
existing Hi-Fi and computer. That could also be useful for other things.


Note also that some of the cheaper Behringer ADCs have an inbuilt RIAA
preamp for MM cartridges. I think they're about 25 quid. How good they are
I can't say, but used with care they may be better than a complete cheap
'USB turntable'.

Jim

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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
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Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html


Java Jive July 9th 15 01:52 PM

Silly question!
 
I can't comment on those models specifically, but generally I wouldn't
expect much from any modern turntable. These days, if you want
quality at a good price, you buy CDs (assuming the CDs you want have
been well produced in themselves, which is another completely
different story). So turntables have to be realistically affordable
compared with CD decks, and this usually means compromises such as a
ceramic cartridge, rather than a quality magnetic one, etc.

But then, as another poster has pointed out, singles weren't
themselves usually of the highest quality, and usually were the worst
treated vinyls. There were the stack and drop-down mechanisms in
cheap single-unit players which allowed the user to play sequences of
vinyls, but which tended not to treat them well. Also, many users
used to lift the needle of at the end of a single and plonk it back
down at the beginning again, sometimes manually with all the attendant
risk of accidental damage, sometimes using a setting on the turntable.
And I remember one particular barman used to nudge the juke-box as his
favourite songs came to an end, thus sending the stylus bouncing back
to the beginning again!

So the main help that I can provide here is about the actual
digitisation process itself, having done all my vinyls just a few
years ago. You may care to read my notes on the subject which I've
written up here ...
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/Audi...storation.html

Also, at the time both here and in uk.tech.digital-tv, there were long
and detailed threads about the problems I faced. AFAICR, they began
with this one, though there were more over the next few weeks or
months:
Java Jive: 'ROT: PC Audio Recording & Playback (was: Holst and a
Headache), 6/12/11'
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.t...k/a7R64KmusM8J

HTHs

On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 10:19:39 +0100, Graeme Wall
wrote:

Probably a silly question to bring up on this group but does anyone have
any opinions on the USB turntables John Lewis are selling?

The reason I ask is I've discovered a box full of 1960s singles that I'd
quite like to stick on my iThings and can't be fagged trying to marry
the hi-fi and computer together to do the job properly as it would
involve major rewiring sessions to get them into the same room.

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Graeme Wall July 9th 15 08:26 PM

Silly question!
 
On 09/07/2015 10:26, Brian-Gaff wrote:
Well for singles it probably does not matter that much.
However not knowing the ones you refer to, I could not hazard a guess.
The interfacing of a computer should be easy, why not pick up any old xp
machine and shove it on the hend of the hi fi, once you have the wav files
you can copy them to a ram stick and process them on your favourite audio
editor in the other room.

That is what I do and you only need a 1gig machiine with say an 80 gig ide
drive and say the demo copy of goldwave with either on board audio or a
cheap old sound card.
Brian


That's a thought, though never having used Windows I might struggle a
bit :-)

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Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.



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