I bought a pair of KEF kit 3s then too, later improving them with rebuilt
crossovers plus massively deadened the cabinets. Sold them a couple of years on
at a small profit, after buying a second hand pair of ESL57s.

I kept them for nearly 30 years.


.... Phil

Still got the ESL57's?...
--
Tony Sayer

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tony sayer wrote:

I bought a pair of KEF kit 3s then too, later improving them with
rebuilt crossovers plus massively deadened the cabinets. Sold them a
couple of years on at a small profit, after buying a second hand pair
of ESL57s.

I kept them for nearly 30 years.


.... Phil

Still got the ESL57's?...

Can you still get them fixed? Pal had a pair, and they tended to need
fixing every few years. But did sound wonderful when good.

--
*It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.

Dave Plowman London SW
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tony sayer wrote:


I bought a pair of KEF kit 3s then too, later improving them with rebuilt
crossovers plus massively deadened the cabinets.
Sold them a couple of years on
at a small profit, after buying a second hand pair of ESL57s.

I kept them for nearly 30 years.


Still got the ESL57's?...
--


** No, thirty years expired in 2002.

Since then I entertained borrowed ESL63s driven by Quad 405s and 306s for a long while - verrrry nice.

Then I purchased a pair of used ESL63s from an authorised Quad dealer and unfortunately had to return them for a full refund. You do NOT wanna know the legal hassles that involved.

Now I content myself with a pair of 3-way speakers, employing all Vifa drivers in *heavily modified* cabinets that once housed AR2Axs.

I fancy they sound rather better than KEF Concertos but not quite as good as the phenomenal Yamaha NS1000s.



..... Phil

"Woody" wrote in message
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A colleague of mine built a pair of transmission line cabinets using the
same kits based on the design published by Dr Arthur Bailey of Bradford
University in Wireless World in 1972. Whilst they were less good at stereo
imaging than many other (mostly two-way) designs they produced a
naturalness of sound that I have ever heard from any other speaker save
Quad ESLs and possibly one of the Philips MFB designs.

Since then I have had a pair of Spendor BC1's (still have them) and am
currently running a pair of KEF Q55's but neither were/are anywhere near
as pleasant and comfortable to listen to as those TL's.

Dr Bailey took out a patent with Arthur Radford for the TLs.
Each speaker had a special Radford valve power amp build into the stand
as the speaker impedance was 25 Ohms.

The studio were I worked in London had a pair which were
little if ever used, so I asked if I could borrow them. My
request was granted and I had them at home for about a year.
My next door neighbour was away for very long spells in the merchant
marine, so I greatly enjoyed window-rattling performances of
organ music by Bach, and Buxtehude. These speakers were exceptional.

Iain

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Iain Churches wrote:

Dave wrote:
I'd hope he's already researched the idea before spending vast sums on
it.

You can be sure of that. The investment comes from venture capital
(about half from the UK)

All with no ties?

I stated clearly above the company is financed by venture capital.

Since the Brexit decision, sterling has taken a tumble, (it is a 1.185 Euros
today) and UK merchant bankers are very keen to make solid investments
in the EU before the door closes on them. So they are currently offering
terms more advantageous than their German, French or Swedish
counterparts.

Of course I wish him luck. But he wouldn't be the first to blow
redundancy money on untested ideas.

It takes a considerably more than a termination of contract payment
to set up a classical recordiing studio Check out the price tag of an
AWS 948 console from SSL, or a Lawo mc2 90.

Iain

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Iain Churches wrote:
Of course I wish him luck. But he wouldn't be the first to blow
redundancy money on untested ideas.

It takes a considerably more than a termination of contract payment
to set up a classical recordiing studio Check out the price tag of an
AWS 948 console from SSL, or a Lawo mc2 90.

He's managed to find someone to take all the risk? Good for him.

BTW, was discussing the idea with a pro musician friend of mine - mainly
concentrating on the headphone side. He was adamant he wouldn't use any
studio without a conventional control room and speakers.

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*I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize *

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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He's managed to find someone to take all the risk? Good for him.

No. It is a venture capital company.

BTW, was discussing the idea with a pro musician friend of mine - mainly
concentrating on the headphone side. He was adamant he wouldn't use any
studio without a conventional control room and speakers.

I know dozens of pro musicians with whom I work daily.
They play where they get paid to play, and are happy to do so:-)

Iain

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Woody" wrote in message
...

A colleague of mine built a pair of transmission line cabinets
using the
same kits based on the design published by Dr Arthur Bailey of
Bradford
University in Wireless World in 1972. Whilst they were less good at
stereo
imaging than many other (mostly two-way) designs they produced a
naturalness of sound that I have ever heard from any other speaker
save
Quad ESLs and possibly one of the Philips MFB designs.

Since then I have had a pair of Spendor BC1's (still have them) and
am
currently running a pair of KEF Q55's but neither were/are anywhere
near
as pleasant and comfortable to listen to as those TL's.

Dr Bailey took out a patent with Arthur Radford for the TLs.
Each speaker had a special Radford valve power amp build into the
stand
as the speaker impedance was 25 Ohms.

The studio were I worked in London had a pair which were
little if ever used, so I asked if I could borrow them. My
request was granted and I had them at home for about a year.
My next door neighbour was away for very long spells in the merchant
marine, so I greatly enjoyed window-rattling performances of
organ music by Bach, and Buxtehude. These speakers were exceptional.



I used to have a compilation disc to show how good Denon recordings
were. It had a piece of Bach on it recorded in Limburg Cathedral that
had reeds on the pedals that I have never been able to hear on any
other speakers - same a pair of borrowed Cambridge R50's which were
essentially the same design principle anyway.

The Bailey TLs were almost the same as the IMF TLS50's and 80's - but
I could never have afforded them. The BC1's were ex BBC and only cost
me £70 - about a tenth of their then retail cost.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

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Iain Churches wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

He's managed to find someone to take all the risk? Good for him.

No. It is a venture capital company.

BTW, was discussing the idea with a pro musician friend of mine -
mainly concentrating on the headphone side. He was adamant he wouldn't
use any studio without a conventional control room and speakers.

I know dozens of pro musicians with whom I work daily.
They play where they get paid to play, and are happy to do so:-)

This one is rather more than just a jobbing musician, though. Composes and
arranges too. And does sometimes have a say in the studios used - since he
will be there in an executive position rather than just playing.

Must admit to being surprised you think you'd get away without a decent
soundproof control room and speakers. You can't be the first hoping to cut
costs like this.

--
*You can't have everything, where would you put it?*

Dave Plowman London SW
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Woody wrote:
The Bailey TLs were almost the same as the IMF TLS50's and 80's - but
I could never have afforded them. The BC1's were ex BBC and only cost
me £70 - about a tenth of their then retail cost.

My BC1s cost about 70 quid new - from the factory, and ordered up sort of
via the BBC in the early 70s. Serial numbers just over 1000.

--
*Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial

Dave Plowman London SW
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