You know increasingly I'm noting that the young uns seem to be listening to
all their music on crap gear. IE many of the sound systems for multi room
use are 1 mono speaker or one speaker with s speakers facing different ways.
Look at the amazon Echo, or the output form I phones etc.

Its time for a stereo or surround revival quite obviously, and sadly it is
starting but only in virtual reality helmets and such like. You can hardly
wander around the streets looking like Darth Vader can you.

Mind you I suppose using augmented reality you can.
I suppose its more preferable to the rest of society than huge double
cassette machines that used D batteries up at the rate of a a set a day!

Brian

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Brian Gaff wrote:
You know increasingly I'm noting that the young uns seem to be listening
to all their music on crap gear. IE many of the sound systems for multi
room use are 1 mono speaker or one speaker with s speakers facing
different ways. Look at the amazon Echo, or the output form I phones etc.

Very true. Convenience seems much more important to many than sound
quality.

Not just the young. Many my age have thrown out very good sound systems to
replace them with something modern which sounds vastly inferior.

TV sound is even more obvious. TV sets have never had really good internal
sound systems - but modern widescreen sets with tiny rear facing speakers
are just a very bad joke.

It's odd, given that many cars now have quite respectable sound systems.

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Huge wrote:
TV sound is even more obvious. TV sets have never had really good
internal sound systems - but modern widescreen sets with tiny rear
facing speakers are just a very bad joke.

It's worse than that. The £500 sound bar that came with my new Samsung
(spit) 65" TV is a PoS. Another one of the multitude of reasons I hate
the damn thing.

Some sound bars are a vast improvement on the internal speakers, so you've
been very unlucky. But mine is fed to the Hi-Fi, so not a problem here.

I had a Samsung 55", bought in a panic. No matter how I fiddled, I
couldn't get half decent flesh tones. Faces always looked like cartoons.

Luckily it broke down just out of warranty. Power supply fault. No rush to
replace, so ended up with a 60" Panasonic. Just about right straight out
of the box.

Samsung now fixed and in the spare room. Looking just as awful as ever.
Perhaps they are designed for oriental flesh tones?

But I like my Samsung phone. Super camera. ;-)

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On 21/01/17 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Samsung now fixed and in the spare room. Looking just as awful as ever.
Perhaps they are designed for oriental flesh tones?

Donald Trump?

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Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 21/01/17 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Samsung now fixed and in the spare room. Looking just as awful as ever.
Perhaps they are designed for oriental flesh tones?

Donald Trump?

Or, for those with memories, Des O'Connor. More Polyfilla and Dulux than
makeup.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Bit unfair on des. I used to see him live and most of the time he looked
better than on the screen. I strongly dispute this old thing of the camera
never lies. I think that very much depends on how its adjusted in the first
place.
Brian

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Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 21/01/17 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Samsung now fixed and in the spare room. Looking just as awful as ever.
Perhaps they are designed for oriental flesh tones?

Donald Trump?

Or, for those with memories, Des O'Connor. More Polyfilla and Dulux than
makeup.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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No I suspect that its just that the software is rubbish. Most things these
days seem to rely on software to clean up otherwise naff content. Not sure
what is real any more. I'm told my first flat screen, an unknown madke looks
very good, but since I myself cannot see it its only used when somebody
sighted is here.

This is what irks me about the current situation where only tvs seem to
include spoken menusues not pvrs.
Brian

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Samsung now fixed and in the spare room. Looking just as awful as ever.
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On 21/01/17 09:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
You know increasingly I'm noting that the young uns seem to be listening to
all their music on crap gear. IE many of the sound systems for multi room
use are 1 mono speaker or one speaker with s speakers facing different ways.
Look at the amazon Echo, or the output form I phones etc.


Their music is experienced passively, it's wallpaper changed to the
current fashion intended as disposable as a TV commercial. Other than
possibly a subwoofer, no enhanced rendering is required for about 90% of
it as the necessary compressor adjustments have been made up front.

Electronics companies hence have an easy job to manufacture equipment
that can be mass market profitable without going to technical extremes
that will never be used.

However enjoying real Hi-Fi music (For all generations, all genres) is
experiencing the involvement with decent reproduction equipment (better
dynamics for a start) and being closer in the performance or audience,
undistracted. Ideally, eyes closed...

Currently while typing this, I'm enjoying 'dark side of the moon', the
SACD 5.1 cut. It's ain't wallpaper that ye wander around cooking food
to. It rewards my better attention with properly setup speakers from the
car boot sale that someone got fed up of, and bought smaller!

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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You know increasingly I'm noting that the young uns seem to be listening
to all their music on crap gear.

Interesting post.

It is not just young people, but people of all ages who
listen happily on i-pods etc to music in .mp3 format
the quality of which satisfies them totally.



Iain

Iain Churches said:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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You know increasingly I'm noting that the young uns seem to be listening
to all their music on crap gear.

Interesting post.

It is not just young people, but people of all ages who
listen happily on i-pods etc to music in .mp3 format
the quality of which satisfies them totally.

I think a lot of people don't really listen to music very closely or pay
much attention to what they're hearing..


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