What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 07:50:08 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
tiistai 25. heinäkuuta 2017 6.56.31 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:

Yes. Alas 20 years of chronic back pain, reduced mobility and the
massive drop in income has limited my experience to what I can see
in my home. :-/

Sorry to hear that. Is this the result of your hard physical work
with the band?

Thanks. No I don;t think so. It was a freak occurance in 1995. I was going
to the neighbours over the back (1.8m) fence and the far side was smooth so
I 'vaulted' over and the ground on the far side was uneven and I landed
wrong. The resulting jar to my back ruptured L5 / S1 completely and also
damaged the next three discs up.

(snip)

Sorry, sad story I don't usually share. I try to keep my mind occupied as
best I can with low-cost 'projects' etc.

That's a tragic chain of events. Very sad:-(

These are very different times to the late 70s / early 80s. ;-)
--
Indeed. Trucks have hydraulic tail lifts, forklifts, and freight
cases have large wheels. But the amount of equipment a band now
carries is far greater.

Very true. I'd love to have got my hands on the sort of equiment available
these days back in the day. Not just on the audio side but stage lighting as
well. The intense colours that you can get quite cheaply with LEDs these
days (and being able to use pre-programmed sequences) would be awesome to
use.

Yes indeed. LED technology has changed lighting enormously, just as digital and wireless technology have changed audio. It is also fun to use the best from both worlds. Nirvana for me is a collection of large condenser mics from the 50's and 60's, and an analogue console feeding an 24track Studer A80 (2" tape) with Dolby SR. Then transfer to digital DAW for edit, post and mix.

Iain

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:38:06 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 15.49.33 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:

Were you involved with the admin of the band you were with?
Musicians are notoriously bad in business matters, and anyone who can
add up the gig fees on a table napkin and deduct the agent and
taxman, and divide the result by the number of band and crew, is
usually welcome in any band:-)

Actually the keyboard player / synths / trumpet / 2nd rythm guitarist /
sometime lead-vocalist (all one person) was also the electronics whizz *and*
admin. He was a very clever bloke, not your typical 'muso' at all. Even
after I joined and took over the mixing duties he was the guy who ran all
the wiring and set up the amps - it's something he just didn't want to let
go of.

He was also chief solderer and was always fixing the guitarists effects
pedals etc.

Every band needs at least one "dynamo" to keep things going. Being in a band is not just about turning up on time (and sober) for the gig:-))

The big band in which I play, although not a pro band, is run like
one. It is registered as a company. We have a chairman and a
committee. We handle sales and PR ourselves, but have an agent
through whom invoices are generated and tax and social costs are
paid. No one in the band, with the exception of the conductor/leader
who is a professional musician, gets paid. Most players are
sufficiently well-healed, to regard the opportunity to play in a
well-run band to capacity audiences as reward enough.

It sounds like a lot of fun. :)

When a band exceeds say seven players, things get more complicated. You can't just shout out "Georgia" or "a blues in F", and esxpect a coherent performance. Once you get sections in a band, such a trumpets, trombones and saxophones they play in four or five part harmony and need written parts from which to play. So arrangements need to be written or bought. It is a full-time job for one player to copy, number and insert parts for new titles into 20 folders. Our band has about 1 000 titles, with more being added all the time.

We produce projects with a theme, and so our concerts are very different to the usual hotchpotch of Ellington/Basie/Kenton/Glenn Miller that most big bands offer.

Our concerts are usually sold out, so that we have no shortage of professional soloists wanting to perform with us.

The autumn project for this year is a tribute to Ella Fitzgerald. 2017 is the centenary of her birth). We shall also be recording some titles for our next CD. We have been able to obtain copies of many of her original arrangements used in the 40s, 50s and 60s. Members of the band have also been busy writing. We shall have a string section with us too, The Soul Strings, (16 students in their final year at music college, who are looking for stage and recording experience. It's going to be a lot of fun.

Iain

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:38:06 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 15.49.33 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:

Were you involved with the admin of the band you were with?
Musicians are notoriously bad in business matters, and anyone who
can add up the gig fees on a table napkin and deduct the agent and
taxman, and divide the result by the number of band and crew, is
usually welcome in any band:-)

Actually the keyboard player / synths / trumpet / 2nd rythm
guitarist / sometime lead-vocalist (all one person) was also the
electronics whizz *and* admin. He was a very clever bloke, not your
typical 'muso' at all. Even after I joined and took over the mixing
duties he was the guy who ran all the wiring and set up the amps -
it's something he just didn't want to let go of.

He was also chief solderer and was always fixing the guitarists
effects pedals etc.

Every band needs at least one "dynamo" to keep things going. Being in
a band is not just about turning up on time (and sober) for the
gig:-))


He's the one guy who never gave in to any of the temptations that were
abundant in that environment.

The big band in which I play, although not a pro band, is run like
one. It is registered as a company. We have a chairman and a
committee. We handle sales and PR ourselves, but have an agent
through whom invoices are generated and tax and social costs are
paid. No one in the band, with the exception of the
conductor/leader who is a professional musician, gets paid. Most
players are sufficiently well-healed, to regard the opportunity to
play in a well-run band to capacity audiences as reward enough.

It sounds like a lot of fun. :)

When a band exceeds say seven players, things get more complicated.
You can't just shout out "Georgia" or "a blues in F", and esxpect a
coherent performance. Once you get sections in a band, such a
trumpets, trombones and saxophones they play in four or five part
harmony and need written parts from which to play. So arrangements
need to be written or bought. It is a full-time job for one player
to copy, number and insert parts for new titles into 20 folders. Our
band has about 1 000 titles, with more being added all the time.

We produce projects with a theme, and so our concerts are very
different to the usual hotchpotch of Ellington/Basie/Kenton/Glenn
Miller that most big bands offer.

Our concerts are usually sold out, so that we have no shortage of
professional soloists wanting to perform with us.

The autumn project for this year is a tribute to Ella Fitzgerald.
2017 is the centenary of her birth). We shall also be recording some
titles for our next CD. We have been able to obtain copies of many of
her original arrangements used in the 40s, 50s and 60s. Members of
the band have also been busy writing. We shall have a string section
with us too, The Soul Strings, (16 students in their final year at
music college, who are looking for stage and recording experience.
It's going to be a lot of fun.

That sounds great! I'm happy for you. :)
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On Sunday, 23 July 2017 08:36:56 UTC+1, Phil Allison wrote:
In a word "harsh".

But in a magazine review, where the speaker manufacturer is an advertiser, "detailed and analytical"

Owain

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On Friday, 28 July 2017 17:43:48 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:38:06 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 15.49.33 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:

Were you involved with the admin of the band you were with?
Musicians are notoriously bad in business matters, and anyone who
can add up the gig fees on a table napkin and deduct the agent and
taxman, and divide the result by the number of band and crew, is
usually welcome in any ba

Actually the keyboard player / synths / trumpet / 2nd rythm
guitarist / sometime lead-vocalist (all one person) was also the
electronics whizz *and* admin. He was a very clever bloke, not your
typical 'muso' at all. Even after I joined and took over the mixing
duties he was the guy who ran all the wiring and set up the amps -
it's something he just didn't want to let go of.

He was also chief solderer and was always fixing the guitarists
effects pedals etc.

Every band needs at least one "dynamo" to keep things going. Being in
a band is not just about turning up on time (and sober) for the
gig:-))


He's the one guy who never gave in to any of the temptations that were
abundant in that environment.


Ah yes. "The destructive recreational substances" (as described by Duke Ellington). They have been abundant, and a part of the music scene since the 1920's. Long before it was a dance, the word "jive" referred to hashish. Andy Kirk had a song entitled "All the Jive Is Gone". Lyric: "Come on in and have some gin, 'cos all the jive is gone".

Illinois Jacquet (One of my favourite saxophone players) who had the most amazing band, had a title called: Three Buckets of Jive" We play it often. The meaning is lost to most.

We don't have a "substance" problem in our band: the back row are all policemen:-) We once had a stand-in guitar player, who sometimes turned up wide-eyed. He was totally unaware of the backgrounds of the other players. He used to slip out for a "drag" during the break, but played really well. The role of guitar player in a big band is a demanding one, he has to play rhythm guitar like Freddy Green, (and read the chords - not just simple, three-chord changes but all the dominant chords, ,9,11,13 dims and + chords and much more) and play written single line tutti with saxes or muted brass, and then solo like Wes Mongtgomery !!

The worst thing that can happen to any band is that a festival timetable starts to run late. The organiser, with the best if intentions, sets up a bar tab for the band. In two hours,a twenty-piece big band can down a lot of vodka!

Iain

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:34:33 -0700 (PDT), Iain
wrote:

On Friday, 28 July 2017 17:43:48 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:38:06 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 15.49.33 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:

Were you involved with the admin of the band you were with?
Musicians are notoriously bad in business matters, and anyone who
can add up the gig fees on a table napkin and deduct the agent and
taxman, and divide the result by the number of band and crew, is
usually welcome in any ba

Actually the keyboard player / synths / trumpet / 2nd rythm
guitarist / sometime lead-vocalist (all one person) was also the
electronics whizz *and* admin. He was a very clever bloke, not your
typical 'muso' at all. Even after I joined and took over the mixing
duties he was the guy who ran all the wiring and set up the amps -
it's something he just didn't want to let go of.

He was also chief solderer and was always fixing the guitarists
effects pedals etc.

Every band needs at least one "dynamo" to keep things going. Being in
a band is not just about turning up on time (and sober) for the
gig:-))


He's the one guy who never gave in to any of the temptations that were
abundant in that environment.


Ah yes. "The destructive recreational substances" (as described by Duke Ellington). They have been abundant, and a part of the music scene since the 1920's. Long before it was a dance, the word "jive" referred to hashish. Andy Kirk had a song entitled "All the Jive Is Gone". Lyric: "Come on in and have some gin, 'cos all the jive is gone".

Illinois Jacquet (One of my favourite saxophone players) who had the most amazing band, had a title called: Three Buckets of Jive" We play it often. The meaning is lost to most.

We don't have a "substance" problem in our band: the back row are all policemen:-) We once had a stand-in guitar player, who sometimes turned up wide-eyed. He was totally unaware of the backgrounds of the other players. He used to slip out for a "drag" during the break, but played really well. The role of guitar player in a big band is a demanding one, he has to play rhythm guitar like Freddy Green, (and read the chords - not just simple, three-chord changes but all the dominant chords, ,9,11,13 dims and + chords and much more) and play written single line tutti with saxes or muted brass, and then solo like Wes Mongtgomery !!

The worst thing that can happen to any band is that a festival timetable starts to run late. The organiser, with the best if intentions, sets up a bar tab for the band. In two hours,a twenty-piece big band can down a lot of vodka!

Iain

Things don't have to run late. I went to see the Moscow Philharmonic
at the Barbican years ago. The two double bass players came on stage
and each carefully placed a bottle of vodka by his stand. By the end
of the evening both bottles were empty.

d

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On Wednesday, 9 August 2017 07:43:15 UTC+3, Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:34:33 -0700 (PDT), Iain
wrote:

On Friday, 28 July 2017 17:43:48 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:38:06 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 15.49.33 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:

Were you involved with the admin of the band you were with?
Musicians are notoriously bad in business matters, and anyone who
can add up the gig fees on a table napkin and deduct the agent and
taxman, and divide the result by the number of band and crew, is
usually welcome in any ba

Actually the keyboard player / synths / trumpet / 2nd rythm
guitarist / sometime lead-vocalist (all one person) was also the
electronics whizz *and* admin. He was a very clever bloke, not your
typical 'muso' at all. Even after I joined and took over the mixing
duties he was the guy who ran all the wiring and set up the amps -
it's something he just didn't want to let go of.

He was also chief solderer and was always fixing the guitarists
effects pedals etc.

Every band needs at least one "dynamo" to keep things going. Being in
a band is not just about turning up on time (and sober) for the
gig:-))


He's the one guy who never gave in to any of the temptations that were
abundant in that environment.


Ah yes. "The destructive recreational substances" (as described by Duke Ellington). They have been abundant, and a part of the music scene since the 1920's. Long before it was a dance, the word "jive" referred to hashish. Andy Kirk had a song entitled "All the Jive Is Gone". Lyric: "Come on in and have some gin, 'cos all the jive is gone".

Illinois Jacquet (One of my favourite saxophone players) who had the most amazing band, had a title called: Three Buckets of Jive" We play it often. The meaning is lost to most.

We don't have a "substance" problem in our band: the back row are all policemen:-) We once had a stand-in guitar player, who sometimes turned up wide-eyed. He was totally unaware of the backgrounds of the other players. He used to slip out for a "drag" during the break, but played really well. The role of guitar player in a big band is a demanding one, he has to play rhythm guitar like Freddy Green, (and read the chords - not just simple, three-chord changes but all the dominant chords, ,9,11,13 dims and + chords and much more) and play written single line tutti with saxes or muted brass, and then solo like Wes Mongtgomery !!

The worst thing that can happen to any band is that a festival timetable starts to run late. The organiser, with the best if intentions, sets up a bar tab for the band. In two hours,a twenty-piece big band can down a lot of vodka!

Iain

Things don't have to run late. I went to see the Moscow Philharmonic
at the Barbican years ago. The two double bass players came on stage
and each carefully placed a bottle of vodka by his stand. By the end
of the evening both bottles were empty.


I have been to Moscow Philharmonic concerts on their home ground. There were six orchestral basses, so two bottles among by six players in not so bad:-))

Iain

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:11:28 -0700 (PDT), Iain
wrote:

On Wednesday, 9 August 2017 07:43:15 UTC+3, Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:34:33 -0700 (PDT), Iain
wrote:

On Friday, 28 July 2017 17:43:48 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:38:06 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 15.49.33 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:

Were you involved with the admin of the band you were with?
Musicians are notoriously bad in business matters, and anyone who
can add up the gig fees on a table napkin and deduct the agent and
taxman, and divide the result by the number of band and crew, is
usually welcome in any ba

Actually the keyboard player / synths / trumpet / 2nd rythm
guitarist / sometime lead-vocalist (all one person) was also the
electronics whizz *and* admin. He was a very clever bloke, not your
typical 'muso' at all. Even after I joined and took over the mixing
duties he was the guy who ran all the wiring and set up the amps -
it's something he just didn't want to let go of.

He was also chief solderer and was always fixing the guitarists
effects pedals etc.

Every band needs at least one "dynamo" to keep things going. Being in
a band is not just about turning up on time (and sober) for the
gig:-))


He's the one guy who never gave in to any of the temptations that were
abundant in that environment.


Ah yes. "The destructive recreational substances" (as described by Duke Ellington). They have been abundant, and a part of the music scene since the 1920's. Long before it was a dance, the word "jive" referred to hashish. Andy Kirk had a song entitled "All the Jive Is Gone". Lyric: "Come on in and have some gin, 'cos all the jive is gone".

Illinois Jacquet (One of my favourite saxophone players) who had the most amazing band, had a title called: Three Buckets of Jive" We play it often. The meaning is lost to most.

We don't have a "substance" problem in our band: the back row are all policemen:-) We once had a stand-in guitar player, who sometimes turned up wide-eyed. He was totally unaware of the backgrounds of the other players. He used to slip out for a "drag" during the break, but played really well. The role of guitar player in a big band is a demanding one, he has to play rhythm guitar like Freddy Green, (and read the chords - not just simple, three-chord changes but all the dominant chords, ,9,11,13 dims and + chords and much more) and play written single line tutti with saxes or muted brass, and then solo like Wes Mongtgomery !!

The worst thing that can happen to any band is that a festival timetable starts to run late. The organiser, with the best if intentions, sets up a bar tab for the band. In two hours,a twenty-piece big band can down a lot of vodka!

Iain

Things don't have to run late. I went to see the Moscow Philharmonic
at the Barbican years ago. The two double bass players came on stage
and each carefully placed a bottle of vodka by his stand. By the end
of the evening both bottles were empty.


I have been to Moscow Philharmonic concerts on their home ground. There were six orchestral basses, so two bottles among by six players in not so bad:-))

Iain

No, these two weren't in the mood for sharing.

d

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On Wednesday, 9 August 2017 20:49:40 UTC+3, Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:11:28 -0700 (PDT), Iain
wrote:

On Wednesday, 9 August 2017 07:43:15 UTC+3, Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:34:33 -0700 (PDT), Iain
wrote:

On Friday, 28 July 2017 17:43:48 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:38:06 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 15.49.33 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:

Were you involved with the admin of the band you were with?
Musicians are notoriously bad in business matters, and anyone who
can add up the gig fees on a table napkin and deduct the agent and
taxman, and divide the result by the number of band and crew, is
usually welcome in any ba

Actually the keyboard player / synths / trumpet / 2nd rythm
guitarist / sometime lead-vocalist (all one person) was also the
electronics whizz *and* admin. He was a very clever bloke, not your
typical 'muso' at all. Even after I joined and took over the mixing
duties he was the guy who ran all the wiring and set up the amps -
it's something he just didn't want to let go of.

He was also chief solderer and was always fixing the guitarists
effects pedals etc.

Every band needs at least one "dynamo" to keep things going. Being in
a band is not just about turning up on time (and sober) for the
gig:-))


He's the one guy who never gave in to any of the temptations that were
abundant in that environment.


Ah yes. "The destructive recreational substances" (as described by Duke Ellington). They have been abundant, and a part of the music scene since the 1920's. Long before it was a dance, the word "jive" referred to hashish. Andy Kirk had a song entitled "All the Jive Is Gone". Lyric: "Come on in and have some gin, 'cos all the jive is gone".

Illinois Jacquet (One of my favourite saxophone players) who had the most amazing band, had a title called: Three Buckets of Jive" We play it often. The meaning is lost to most.

We don't have a "substance" problem in our band: the back row are all policemen:-) We once had a stand-in guitar player, who sometimes turned up wide-eyed. He was totally unaware of the backgrounds of the other players.. He used to slip out for a "drag" during the break, but played really well. The role of guitar player in a big band is a demanding one, he has to play rhythm guitar like Freddy Green, (and read the chords - not just simple, three-chord changes but all the dominant chords, ,9,11,13 dims and + chords and much more) and play written single line tutti with saxes or muted brass, and then solo like Wes Mongtgomery !!

The worst thing that can happen to any band is that a festival timetable starts to run late. The organiser, with the best if intentions, sets up a bar tab for the band. In two hours,a twenty-piece big band can down a lot of vodka!

Iain

Things don't have to run late. I went to see the Moscow Philharmonic
at the Barbican years ago. The two double bass players came on stage
and each carefully placed a bottle of vodka by his stand. By the end
of the evening both bottles were empty.


I have been to Moscow Philharmonic concerts on their home ground. There were six orchestral basses, so two bottles among by six players in not so bad:-))

Iain

No, these two weren't in the mood for sharing.

"Vodka. Connecting People"

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

Once upon a time on usenet Iain wrote:
On Friday, 28 July 2017 17:43:48 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:38:06 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 15.49.33 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:

Were you involved with the admin of the band you were with?
Musicians are notoriously bad in business matters, and anyone who
can add up the gig fees on a table napkin and deduct the agent and
taxman, and divide the result by the number of band and crew, is
usually welcome in any ba

Actually the keyboard player / synths / trumpet / 2nd rythm
guitarist / sometime lead-vocalist (all one person) was also the
electronics whizz *and* admin. He was a very clever bloke, not your
typical 'muso' at all. Even after I joined and took over the mixing
duties he was the guy who ran all the wiring and set up the amps -
it's something he just didn't want to let go of.

He was also chief solderer and was always fixing the guitarists
effects pedals etc.

Every band needs at least one "dynamo" to keep things going. Being
in a band is not just about turning up on time (and sober) for the
gig:-))


He's the one guy who never gave in to any of the temptations that
were abundant in that environment.


Ah yes. "The destructive recreational substances" (as described by
Duke Ellington). They have been abundant, and a part of the music
scene since the 1920's. Long before it was a dance, the word "jive"
referred to hashish. Andy Kirk had a song entitled "All the Jive Is
Gone". Lyric: "Come on in and have some gin, 'cos all the jive is
gone".

Illinois Jacquet (One of my favourite saxophone players) who had the
most amazing band, had a title called: Three Buckets of Jive" We
play it often. The meaning is lost to most.

We don't have a "substance" problem in our band: the back row are all
policemen:-) We once had a stand-in guitar player, who sometimes
turned up wide-eyed. He was totally unaware of the backgrounds of the
other players. He used to slip out for a "drag" during the break,
but played really well. The role of guitar player in a big band is a
demanding one, he has to play rhythm guitar like Freddy Green, (and
read the chords - not just simple, three-chord changes but all the
dominant chords, ,9,11,13 dims and + chords and much more) and play
written single line tutti with saxes or muted brass, and then solo
like Wes Mongtgomery !!

The worst thing that can happen to any band is that a festival
timetable starts to run late. The organiser, with the best if
intentions, sets up a bar tab for the band. In two hours,a
twenty-piece big band can down a lot of vodka!

There was another 'temptation that was abundant in that environment' that
was only destructive to relationships. As I previously mentioned four of the
five 'playing' band members were married and we were on the road (without
the wives) 75% of the time...

It was a great thing to experience though for a single man. ;-)
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On 24/07/2017 10:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
Other than that, what is the difference between one
and a 'normal' speaker.

Just the name.

It's basically a US term. It wasn't used for speakers when I started my
career in broadcast. A monitor produced pictures. ;-)

Just about any type of speaker has been used as a so called monitor at one
time or another.

One term was 'average quality monitor'. That would be used to give a rough
idea of what people heard at home - as opposed to the speakers in pro use.
Aurotone being one example - just a single driver in a small box.

You'd hope that any speaker called a monitor would have tight quality
control - so that all of the same make and model sounded the same.

But then in a recording studio they may be custom made units anyway - just
for that studio.


On the subject of speakers - and at the risk of hijacking things [sorry] - I
have a pair of 15" Gauss speakers. circa 1978 ish that I'd forgotten about
until crawling around in the loft the other day. No idea at this point whether
they still work of not - they did when stored - the point is, are they worth
hanging on to?

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

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On Saturday, 12 August 2017 06:04:08 UTC+3, ~misfit~ wrote:


There was another 'temptation that was abundant in that environment' that
was only destructive to relationships. As I previously mentioned four of the
five 'playing' band members were married and we were on the road (without
the wives) 75% of the time...

It was a great thing to experience though for a single man. ;-)

Ah yes:

A sermon, dear friends, you are about to receive
On John Barleycorn, nicotine, and the temptations of Eve"

There is a story regarding the Fletcher Henderson band, who were playing a gig in St.Louis, the home town of one of the saxophone players. This particular musician was propositioned by a pretty young girl after the gig. Slowly, he looked her up and down, and said, in a way that only an African-American jazz musician can, "Honey, you are young enough to be ma daughter. And if you look anything like your mother, I would say that is not beyond the realms of possibility!"

He drank his cocoa alone that night:-)

Iain

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On Monday, 31 July 2017 22:47:57 UTC+3, wrote:
On Sunday, 23 July 2017 08:36:56 UTC+1, Phil Allison wrote:
In a word "harsh".

But in a magazine review, where the speaker manufacturer is an advertiser, "detailed and analytical"

Some weeks ago, before the JBL L100s were mentioned here, I had the opportunity to borrow a pristine pair with a view to purchase. One still seems them in some quite salubrious places, and a colleague of mine has a pair, so I thought I would give them a try.

They are indeed "bright" but for 60s/70s jazz they take some beating. This pair is perfect except that the front grilles have seen better days. I got new grilles made, and stuck cardboard discs, about the size of a Euro coin, inside the grille, in front of the tweeter and mid range unit. This attenuates the brightness. I very much like the detail and good stereo staging.

Tonight, I listened to the Buddy Rich album "Big Swing Face" on them. It's an album I know well. I enjoyed it immensely.

Iain

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On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 18:04:01 +0100, Iain Churches wrote:

sunnuntai 23. heinäkuuta 2017 17.36.49 UTC+3 Brian Gaff kirjoitti:

This was why CDs made from the vinyl masters sounded
so toppy and bass light.

What do you mean by a vinyl master? Nothing except vinyl pressings can
be made from the stamper.
The studio mix master (analogue or digital) was/is the source for vinyl,
cassettes, eight track cartridges and CD production.

As I understand it, some record companies had the cutting engineer make a
tape copy of the audio sent to the lathe so that they could send the same
master to be cut elsewhere or to make another identical copy at a later
date. Some of these masters also included the RIAA eq.

I remember hearing a Heaven 17 CD back in the 80's that sounded like it
came from an RIAA eq'd master. I already had a vinyl copy so didn't buy it
so can't check whether it was really RIAA eq'd or just odd.

--
JRP Music - http://www.jrpmusic.co.uk

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On Tuesday, 15 August 2017 18:34:35 UTC+3, James Perrett wrote:


As I understand it, some record companies had the cutting engineer make a
tape copy of the audio sent to the lathe so that they could send the same
master to be cut elsewhere or to make another identical copy at a later
date. Some of these masters also included the RIAA eq.

Cutting engineers did not/do not, make tape copies - studios have separate facilities for that. But it is true that sometimes masters where also cut locally by overseas agents from copy tapes. Much more common was that an extra set of disk stampers were grown from the same matrix and these were used for production elsewhere.


The RIAA record equalisation is added by the preamplifier section of the cutting amplifier, It is the inverse of the RIAA playback curve.

Iain

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In article ,
James Perrett wrote:
As I understand it, some record companies had the cutting engineer make
a tape copy of the audio sent to the lathe so that they could send the
same master to be cut elsewhere or to make another identical copy at a
later date. Some of these masters also included the RIAA eq.

Assuming analogue tape, you'd get rather poor results if you applied RIAA
to that.

And generally, you'd not want to use more generations of tape than
absolutely necessary. Although Saga records could do anything. ;-)

--
*Don't worry; it only seems kinky the first time.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Tuesday, 15 August 2017 20:07:35 UTC+3, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Although Saga records could do anything. ;-)

You are probably unaware that the three people who staffed the Saga studio were ex-BBC :-)

Iain

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On 12/08/2017 18:36, David Kennedy wrote:
On 24/07/2017 10:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
Other than that, what is the difference between one
and a 'normal' speaker.

Just the name.

It's basically a US term. It wasn't used for speakers when I started my
career in broadcast. A monitor produced pictures. ;-)

Just about any type of speaker has been used as a so called monitor at one
time or another.

One term was 'average quality monitor'. That would be used to give a rough
idea of what people heard at home - as opposed to the speakers in pro use.
Aurotone being one example - just a single driver in a small box.

You'd hope that any speaker called a monitor would have tight quality
control - so that all of the same make and model sounded the same.

But then in a recording studio they may be custom made units anyway - just
for that studio.


On the subject of speakers - and at the risk of hijacking things [sorry] - I
have a pair of 15" Gauss speakers. circa 1978 ish that I'd forgotten about
until crawling around in the loft the other day. No idea at this point whether
they still work of not - they did when stored - the point is, are they worth
hanging on to?

Well I suppose I'd better bin them then...

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On 18/08/2017 01:53, David Kennedy wrote:
On 12/08/2017 18:36, David Kennedy wrote:
On 24/07/2017 10:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â* Andrew wrote:
Other than that, what is the difference between one
and a 'normal' speaker.

Just the name.

It's basically a US term. It wasn't used for speakers when I started my
career in broadcast. A monitor produced pictures. ;-)

Just about any type of speaker has been used as a so called monitor
at one
time or another.

One term was 'average quality monitor'. That would be used to give a
rough
idea of what people heard at home - as opposed to the speakers in pro
use.
Aurotone being one example - just a single driver in a small box.

You'd hope that any speaker called a monitor would have tight quality
control - so that all of the same make and model sounded the same.

But then in a recording studio they may be custom made units anyway -
just
for that studio.


On the subject of speakers - and at the risk of hijacking things
[sorry] - I
have a pair of 15" Gauss speakers. circa 1978 ish that I'd forgotten
about
until crawling around in the loft the other day. No idea at this point
whether
they still work of not - they did when stored - the point is, are they
worth
hanging on to?

Well I suppose I'd better bin them then...


Woke me up :-)

A google (I know nothing of them first hand) suggests that they were
used in in the 70s as pro 'hall fillers' and in guitar amps, but some
very mixed reviews. A couple of ebay sales, but one in 2013 couldn't
shift a pair for 99p.

I'd listen to them first, see if you like them. If not, stick them on
ebay, buyer collects. If that doesn't work a local community forum
classified. Then the tip.

--
Cheers, Rob

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On 18/08/2017 06:28, RJH wrote:
On 18/08/2017 01:53, David Kennedy wrote:
On 12/08/2017 18:36, David Kennedy wrote:
On 24/07/2017 10:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
Other than that, what is the difference between one
and a 'normal' speaker.

Just the name.

It's basically a US term. It wasn't used for speakers when I started my
career in broadcast. A monitor produced pictures. ;-)

Just about any type of speaker has been used as a so called monitor at one
time or another.

One term was 'average quality monitor'. That would be used to give a rough
idea of what people heard at home - as opposed to the speakers in pro use.
Aurotone being one example - just a single driver in a small box.

You'd hope that any speaker called a monitor would have tight quality
control - so that all of the same make and model sounded the same.

But then in a recording studio they may be custom made units anyway - just
for that studio.


On the subject of speakers - and at the risk of hijacking things [sorry] - I
have a pair of 15" Gauss speakers. circa 1978 ish that I'd forgotten about
until crawling around in the loft the other day. No idea at this point whether
they still work of not - they did when stored - the point is, are they worth
hanging on to?

Well I suppose I'd better bin them then...


Woke me up :-)

A google (I know nothing of them first hand) suggests that they were used in
in the 70s as pro 'hall fillers' and in guitar amps, but some very mixed
reviews. A couple of ebay sales, but one in 2013 couldn't shift a pair for 99p.

I'd listen to them first, see if you like them. If not, stick them on ebay,
buyer collects. If that doesn't work a local community forum classified. Then
the tip.

They're just chassis, no cabs. They were used - AFAICR - in stage monitors so
I suspect they have a fairly large range on them although, like you I can't
find much info on the interweb. I seem to remember they were associated with
Cadac in some way and the Cadac studio monitors I heard - around the size of a
largish wardrobe - were, at the time late '70s, very good. I suppose I could
take my Tannoys apart and put them in instead of the monitor golds but I'm not
certain they'd be better...

I just wondered, after all, in amongst all the static, there is a fair amount
of experience in this NG

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

In article , David
Kennedy writes:

They're just chassis, no cabs. They were used - AFAICR - in stage monitors so
I suspect they have a fairly large range on them although, like you I can't
find much info on the interweb. I seem to remember they were associated with
Cadac in some way and the Cadac studio monitors I heard - around the size of a
largish wardrobe - were, at the time late '70s, very good. I suppose I could
take my Tannoys apart and put them in instead of the monitor golds but I'm not
certain they'd be better...

I just wondered, after all, in amongst all the static, there is a fair amount
of experience in this NG

Idly wondering whether they might be any good as bass guitar drivers,
I found this:

http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?topic=72377.0

--
Mike Fleming

What exactly is a 'Monitor' speaker ?.
 

On 19/08/2017 08:31, Mike Fleming wrote:
In article , David
Kennedy writes:

They're just chassis, no cabs. They were used - AFAICR - in stage monitors so
I suspect they have a fairly large range on them although, like you I can't
find much info on the interweb. I seem to remember they were associated with
Cadac in some way and the Cadac studio monitors I heard - around the size of a
largish wardrobe - were, at the time late '70s, very good. I suppose I could
take my Tannoys apart and put them in instead of the monitor golds but I'm not
certain they'd be better...

I just wondered, after all, in amongst all the static, there is a fair amount
of experience in this NG

Idly wondering whether they might be any good as bass guitar drivers,
I found this:

http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?topic=72377.0

Yes, I saw that when I was trawling around, That;s not my recollection though.
At that time there was plenty of choice and they weren't cheap - for the time
- so I doubt they would have survived as they did if they were shocking. We've
all come across people criticizing wrongly set up equipment.

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com