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1m long, solid silver, AQ's best ever digital cable.
Cost £150, asking £50 posted anywhere in the world.
Simon

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In article ,
Simon Connell wrote:
1m long, solid silver, AQ's best ever digital cable.

Just about any cable ever made would carry digits over that distance.

Cost £150, asking £50 posted anywhere in the world.

You've found this too, then?

--
*Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:47:12 +0100, Dave Plowman
wrote:

In article ,
Simon Connell wrote:
1m long, solid silver, AQ's best ever digital cable.

Just about any cable ever made would carry digits over that distance.

Especially in the not so demanding world of digital HiFi. I mean, what is
cd, 150k/s? A £1 length of cat5 is good for at least 100M/s, enough for
more than 600 cd streams.

--
Jim H

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Hi,

In message , Jim H
writes
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:47:12 +0100, Dave Plowman
wrote:

In article ,
Simon Connell wrote:
1m long, solid silver, AQ's best ever digital cable.

Just about any cable ever made would carry digits over that distance.

Especially in the not so demanding world of digital HiFi. I mean, what
is cd, 150k/s? A £1 length of cat5 is good for at least 100M/s, enough
for more than 600 cd streams.

Right idea, but you're mixing bits and bytes.


--
Glenn Booth

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In article ,
Jim H wrote:
1m long, solid silver, AQ's best ever digital cable.

Just about any cable ever made would carry digits over that distance.

Especially in the not so demanding world of digital HiFi. I mean, what
is cd, 150k/s? A £1 length of cat5 is good for at least 100M/s, enough
for more than 600 cd streams.

Yup. But you've got to understand the thinking. It's conceivable that
really poor (high capacitance) or extra long interconnects can make a
difference to an analogue signal - especially if high impedance valve
equipment is used.

So for those who don't *want* to understand any theory, *all*
interconnects can make a difference. That the signal is digital makes no
difference to this thinking at all.

--
*If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:16:54 +0100, Glenn Booth
wrote:

Hi,

In message , Jim H
writes
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:47:12 +0100, Dave Plowman
wrote:

In article ,
Simon Connell wrote:
1m long, solid silver, AQ's best ever digital cable.

Just about any cable ever made would carry digits over that distance.

Especially in the not so demanding world of digital HiFi. I mean, what
is cd, 150k/s? A £1 length of cat5 is good for at least 100M/s, enough
for more than 600 cd streams.

Right idea, but you're mixing bits and bytes.


Oops. Never can get used to network engineers measuring everything in bits.
Anyway, I forget which is b/B so you can get either 600/8 or 600*8 cd
streams down cat5, both of which are contsiderably more than what you're
likely to actually need, 1

--
Jim

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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:38:28 +0100, Dave Plowman
wrote:

In article ,
Jim H wrote:
1m long, solid silver, AQ's best ever digital cable.

Just about any cable ever made would carry digits over that distance.

Especially in the not so demanding world of digital HiFi. I mean, what
is cd, 150k/s? A £1 length of cat5 is good for at least 100M/s, enough
for more than 600 cd streams.

Yup. But you've got to understand the thinking. It's conceivable that
really poor (high capacitance) or extra long interconnects can make a
difference to an analogue signal - especially if high impedance valve
equipment is used.

So for those who don't *want* to understand any theory, *all*
interconnects can make a difference. That the signal is digital makes no
difference to this thinking at all.


My favourite bit is when WhatHifi etc claim a CD transport to be "working
very hard". Yeah, right, that's why a £15 pc cd rom drive can read with
*ZERO* error at 30-50 times that speed!

--
Jim H

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A certain Jim H, of uk.rec.audio "fame", writes :

Especially in the not so demanding world of digital HiFi. I mean, what
is cd, 150k/s? A £1 length of cat5 is good for at least 100M/s, enough
for more than 600 cd streams.

Y'all got that right. This is snake-oil at it's finest.

--

"Jokes mentioning ducks were considered particularly funny." - cnn.com

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In article , Chesney Christ wrote:
A certain Jim H, of uk.rec.audio "fame", writes :

Especially in the not so demanding world of digital HiFi. I mean, what
is cd, 150k/s? A £1 length of cat5 is good for at least 100M/s, enough
for more than 600 cd streams.

Y'all got that right. This is snake-oil at it's finest.

This is a problem for people who don't have much experience of hifi;
distilling the truth from the sea of snake-oil it swims in... I mean,
of course if you use badly shielded cable I guess it'll pick up some
mains hum/RF interference: but working out what expensive
interconnects, or speaker stands, are meant to do is distinctly
non-trivial :/

- Andrew

--
Andrew Walkingshaw |

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In article , Dave Plowman wrote:

The way some speakers are coupled - or not - to the floor can indeed make
a difference - as can a turntable mounting.

But the dedicated idiot takes this further and decides the same applies to
amplifiers, etc.

Right, so it's just a case of separating things-which-vibrate from large
objects which will have a different resonant frequency? That makes
quite a bit of sense, actually.

(I can't see why this would matter for a bunch of solid-state
electronics, such as an amp, though.)

- Andrew (now listening to Wire - "Map Ref 41degN 93degW")

--
Andrew Walkingshaw |

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In article ,
Andrew Walkingshaw wrote:
The way some speakers are coupled - or not - to the floor can indeed
make a difference - as can a turntable mounting.

But the dedicated idiot takes this further and decides the same
applies to amplifiers, etc.

Right, so it's just a case of separating things-which-vibrate from large
objects which will have a different resonant frequency? That makes quite
a bit of sense, actually.

Yes. Any device which converts an 'electrical signal' into 'sound' or the
other way round can be influenced by other 'sounds' around it - call it
interference if you like - so should be isolated or the effects at least
minimised.

(I can't see why this would matter for a bunch of solid-state
electronics, such as an amp, though.)

Indeed. Valve equipment can suffer from microphony where tapping the valve
etc can produce a sound, but this is pretty uncommon with solid state
equipment.

- Andrew (now listening to Wire - "Map Ref 41degN 93degW")

--
*You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

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In article , Dave Plowman wrote:

Yes. Any device which converts an 'electrical signal' into 'sound' or the
other way round can be influenced by other 'sounds' around it - call it
interference if you like - so should be isolated or the effects at least
minimised.

I'm familiar, ish, with the concept in terms of problems with
microphonic behaviour of guitar pickups. :) It stands to reason
that a turntable, which converts vibration to sound, would be
sensitive to vibration.

(I can't see why this would matter for a bunch of solid-state
electronics, such as an amp, though.)

Indeed. Valve equipment can suffer from microphony where tapping the valve
etc can produce a sound, but this is pretty uncommon with solid state
equipment.

Thanks for your advice.

- Andrew

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In article ,
Andrew Walkingshaw wrote:
I'm familiar, ish, with the concept in terms of problems with
microphonic behaviour of guitar pickups. :)

Yup - and where would we be without this 'undesirable' effect. ;-)

It stands to reason that a turntable, which converts vibration to sound,
would be sensitive to vibration.

It's easy to think of a turntable at rest with the pickup on the record as
a simple microphone - with the record being the diaphragm. Indeed, there
was a beautiful (looking) and engineered make called Transcriptors which
mounted the LP on a series of pedestals. And acted very much like a
microphone...

--
*My dog can lick anyone

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

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A certain Andrew Walkingshaw, of uk.rec.audio "fame", writes :

Y'all got that right. This is snake-oil at it's finest.

This is a problem for people who don't have much experience of hifi;
distilling the truth from the sea of snake-oil it swims in... I mean,
of course if you use badly shielded cable I guess it'll pick up some
mains hum/RF interference: but working out what expensive
interconnects, or speaker stands, are meant to do is distinctly
non-trivial :/

You don't have to work out what they're meant to do, just listen to them
in a double-blind test. If you can't tell the difference blindfold,
there's little point in shelling out huge dough. The emperor really has
no clothes.

--

"Jokes mentioning ducks were considered particularly funny." - cnn.com

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:29:34 +0100, Chesney Christ
wrote:

A certain Andrew Walkingshaw, of uk.rec.audio "fame", writes :

Y'all got that right. This is snake-oil at it's finest.

This is a problem for people who don't have much experience of hifi;
distilling the truth from the sea of snake-oil it swims in... I mean,
of course if you use badly shielded cable I guess it'll pick up some
mains hum/RF interference: but working out what expensive
interconnects, or speaker stands, are meant to do is distinctly
non-trivial :/

You don't have to work out what they're meant to do, just listen to them
in a double-blind test. If you can't tell the difference blindfold,
there's little point in shelling out huge dough. The emperor really has
no clothes.


I think you could get away with a single blind test.

Since this is a test done on yourself, with results also measured by
yourself, you can get away with only you not knowing which interconnect it
is. It doesn't really matter if the tester guy who sets it up knows what
interconnects are being used, especially if they leave the room while you
listen. If the other guy's role IS to set up the system it'd be tough for
them to not know what cables they just plugged in.

I suppose you could argue that you are both tester and subject, and so it
is double blind if just you don't know.

--
Jim