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Old July 23rd 03, 06:54 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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Default Hello valve lovers, wherever you are.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 00:58:51 +0100, Nick Gorham
wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Nick Gorham" wrote in message


Arny Krueger wrote:


Anybody who has seen and understood the plate curves for just about
any Pentode should be laughing their butts off about now.


I guess thats why he excluded Pentodes, and looking at the list of
valves, indirectly heated triodes, or were you choosing to ignore
that ?



By doing so he excluded an apples-to-apples comparison. Comparing a
transitor to a triode is not an apples-to-apples comparison because the
transistor has so much greater amplification. If you apply enough local
feedback to a transistor amplifier to make it comparable to a triode, it's
often even more linear.


Yes, agreed, gain is cheap with transistors, but you are still assuming
that feedback is without its cost in sonic terms.


How about the internal feedback in triodes? :-)

And before you go off
on one of your rants, a zero (global) feedback SET does some things that
no other type of amp does.


Well, we can certainly agree on that!!

Yes, it has faults, thats why I don't at
the moment have one, and yes, to get it anywhere near usable you are
talking about a high cost if only for the iron. BUT, sit someone down
infront of a well designed SET,


That's kinda like 'military intelligence', ain't it? :-)

and a high enough sensitivity speaker
and it will communicate to them is a way that nothing else can.


Bull****.

And no, you can't sample that sound and push it through a comparitor.


IOW, it's all in your imagination, and your knowledge of the cost and
'exoticness' of the device.
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