"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:56:02 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:56:44 +0100, Kurt Hamster
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:02:57 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:12:57 +0100, Kurt Hamster
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:44:38 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:26:19 +0100, Kurt Hamster
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:56:01 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:40:00 +0100, Kurt Hamster
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 06:05:58 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
om to say...

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:44:07 +0100, "Keith G"

wrote:

No, you still don't *geddit* do you? - I'm an 'end user', I'm
only
interested in what comes OUT of my speakers......

Me too - and I like it to bear the closest possible relationship
to
what was on the master tape...............

Would that be the master tape you'd never get to see, much less
hear
(and be able to compare too)?

Well, I do have a Nagra and a CD burner.......................

And?

I have access to a full Protools setup as well as the studio of one
of
Britain's foremost TV music composers, but I still don't have access
to
the master tape of Chris Rea's 'Road To Hell'.

Your point being?

That I can *make* 15 ips analogue master tapes, and compare them
directly to CD-Rs of those tapes.

And? What about the masters of those JVC CDs you always wax lyrical
about. How many of those masters have you heard?

None, but since those CDs are all made from analogue masters, and
since I know what an analogue master of the same quality sounds like,
and a pretty average CD-R made from that master, it's not exactly a
leap of faith to trust that those XRCDs are *very* close to sonically
indistinguishable from the masters............

So in spite of all your pntification about accuracy you are in actual
fact making an assumption that the JVC CDs are accurate to the master
tapes. You make this assumption even though you have no idea what
happened between the master playing and the CD being pressed.

Sure I do, since I know one of the mastering engineers, Dave Collins,
who's even been a guest in my house. It's not rocket science, just 'CD
done right'.

Ah, since I know one of the best lead guitarists in the country I know
how to play guitar do I? Don't be a ******.

You seem to swing regularly between an anally retentive desire for
accuracy and assumptions based on guess work whenever it suits your
argument. Not the best way of enhancing the reputation you would like
for yourself now is it?

If you had a shred of honesty, you'd note that I mentioned 'trust' and
'not exactly a leap of faith' in my statement, nothing to do with
guessing, simply a reasonable extrapolation of my direct experience.
It's analogous to my statement that all competent amplifiers sound the
same, even though I haven't heard them all.

You can wrap it up in as many words as you like it's still assumption.
You don't know, you only think you do.

Now, since don't have *any* such experience, where does that leave
*your* credibility?

You left out quite an important word there, but it seems you are
referring to me. All I can say is you are again making assumptions based
on no factual information. Not very good science is it?

You have no idea how close any of your commercial recordings are to the
original masters. You only think you know and assume that you are
listening to an identical copy.

Nope, I compare master tapes of similar quality (technically, not
musically!) to those '50s and '60s classics, to CD-Rs made from those
masters. It's not rocket science - it's *listening*.

How do you know they are similar quality, you've never heard them? Duh!

Mixdown masters of that era are two-track on 1/4" tape at 15 ips, just
like my Nagra, and Nagras just like mine made many commercial
recordings. Duh.........

FFS, since when did the same equipment have any relevance to how it
sounded. Stick to being a banker!



Er, sorry to pull you up, but I think you'll find he is to 'banker' (other
than the 'Barclays' kind...) what *I* am to 'helicoper pilot'....

(Bet you didn't know he's a fully qualified pilot as well? - Watch him come
running back with that one in his mouth!! :-)