On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:28:12 +0100, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:43:43 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:49:18 +0100, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:54:22 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:08:36 +0100, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:28:35 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:48:06 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Kurt Hamster wrote:
Decca records released the first stereo records in 1945 using the
vertical-lateral system. They could not be played well by the current
playback systems.

Who made a commercially available stereo pickup in '45?

No one.

And where exactly did you previously refer to commercially available
anything?

You made an absolute statement about there being no stereo LPs prior to
1954.

You were wrong, it's as simple as that.

Bull****. There were stereo recordings prior to 1954, and there were
LPs prior to 1954, but there were *no* stereo LPs.

There was a stereo vinyl record in 1932.

Which was not a microgroove record, and hence *not* an LP. And of
course irrelevant, since it wasn't available for sale.

I was wondering just went the pedantry would set in.

It started with you, tough that you only like to dish it.......

It was a vinyl record, colloquially known as LP by many many people.

No, they can also be singles, so 'vinyl' definitely does not now and
never did mean LP per se.

Its availability is immaterial. It existed.

No stereo LP existed, as noted above.

Keep digging................

Keep wriggling...............

Plus of course you
are doing a classic bull****ters trick here, since the overall context
is domestic audio, and there were absolutely *no* stereo LPs available
to the public before 1955.

In your original statement you made absolutely no mention of commercial
availability.

Only a pedant (or a loser with no real argument) would require that
qualification to be made explicitly, in a domestic audio newsgroup.

You said quite categorically and without qualification that there were
no stereo LPs before 1954. You were wrong.

As previously noted, this is not rec.audio.pro, it's a *domestic*
audio newsgroup. And you're wrong anyway, because none of those early
stereo recordings were LPs, and the early vinyl LPs launched in 1948
were mono. As I said, there were *no* stereo LPs in 1954.

Keep wriggling...............

No wriggling involved, as you're flat-out wrong, even with the
'commercially available' disclaimer waived.
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering