"justin" wrote in message
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In Europe you are not an Engineer without formal four year university
degree, regardles of the profession.

Ahem, complete and utter ********.

Of course one has to have some talent, geting through a total of 8 + 4
+ 4 years in becoming a tonemeister will weed many non talented out,
dont't you think?

Being good at a subject and managing to get a degree in it is no measure of
competence for the job. I have known engineers with no qualifications but
lots of experience who could knock spots off Tonmeister graduates and
tonmeister graduates who couldn't mix concrete.

Phildo