"Iain M Churches" wrote in message
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"Iain M Churches" wrote in message
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Do you personally own all the equipment used?

I was formerly a staff engineer. The companies for
which
I worked owned the equipment. They also own the
copyright of the recordings for which I am responsible.

IOW Iain, you are a wage slave, who works at the
pleasure of
others who are sometimes known as businessmen or
capitalists.

Arny, my dear fellow. You have clearly no understanding
of
how the record industry works.

Delusions of ominscience noted.

Happily I am not a wage slave, I stepped off the
treadwheel
some ten years ago, and have not regretted it for a
minute.

Then all you have to offer is news that is both old and
irrelevant. I was focusing on the irrelevant parts. Sorry.

I can pick and choose my projects, and take a three months
summer holiday and one month in the winter.

Nevertheless, you still are a hiree with very limited
responsibilities and control.

Iain, your contributions to your so-called recordings is
merely fragmentary piecework labor organized by others
and
performed using their recources. When all is said and
done,
the recordings you want to cite are not just your work
but
also the work product of others as shown by the fact
that
they are not your property.

The standard contract, signed by producers, engineers and
musicians, states that they acknowledge the transfer of
copyright and intellectual rights of the performance to
the
record label. If you ever work for a commercial label,
you too
will have to sign such a release form - it is standard
practice.
I am sure the law is the same in the US and in the EU in
this respect.

This is all reasonable given that no individual listed has
any innate moral right to call the whole work theirs.

Each and every one of my recordings has a printed credit,
usually in three languages as Recording Engineer: There
are
separate credits for production and editing. In the case
of
pop and jazz recordings there is also a separate credit
for
mixing. What could be clearer than that?

It's very clear - a small piece of the recording is your
work.

IOW, Iain both morally and legally you have no more
right to
call these recordings your recordings than does the
average
production line worker have the right to call the cars
he
works on, his cars.

See above.

Changes nothing.

The point that you don't seem to understand is
that the logistics of the type of work I do, demand a team
not a one-man-band.

Wrong. There are people who still do it all themselves.

Do you never work with a production
crew or do sound for concerts on TV? If you did, you
would
appreciate the size of the team that you are required to
lead.

It's pretty amazing that there are people who lead such
teams, make all the major decisions, have their hands on the
equipment, and own the production lock, stock and barrell.
Said productions are often so good that they, well they even
win prizes for technical and artistic quality.

Trouble is Iain, that's neither you nor I. But I come far
closer, and your miniscule contributions to the final
product you claim are by the standards of my work, well
miniscule.

In contrast, my recordings are my property. I have
worked
and provided finances to obtain the services of a music
director, and the musicans who perform willingly so that
among other things, I can record them. I personally own,
specfied, acquired all of the recording equipment and am
even responsible for such significant details such as ha
ll
acoustics.

Of course they are your property, as no commercial label
has found them to be of sufficient value for commercial
release.

Never even tried, Iain. The point is that you're figurative
a 9-5 slob standing next to a production line that makes
Rolls-Royces casting aspersions at a car that some craftsman
built from scratch on his own nickle.

Iain, when you get a clue about the meaning of the
difference, post again.

Bottom line Iain, only a fool would compare what we do and
pretend that there is much common ground. That fool is
obviously you and not I.

Iain, get a clue!