Keith G wrote:

"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

I think some of the people here who are 'not UK based' have no idea what
a toughie it would be for most people to even get to *hear* a valve amp,
never mind buy one at the prices of up to a year or so ago!

Oh Keith, I thought no-one understood.

But listen, don't pick on our mascot. Patrick suffers from chronic Davy
Crockett Syndrome, and you really shouldn't make fun.

He can recite RDH4 backwards, and often does.

UK audiophiles have no need to resort to Oriental imports of inferior
quality.

???

What makes you think they are inferior? I'm prepared to concede that Pat
will/may have seen a lot more dodgy Chinese amps than we have in the UK, but
I believe you live in the UK - what *bad* Chinese amps have you seen?

It's this 'it's Chinese so it's inferior' bigotry that gets me - I have
spent money to *find out* for myself, I suspect a lot of the 'knockers' have
never even heard a Chinese amplifier....

(Kills me - it's a fair bet that most/nearly all of the people knocking
Chinese gear on Usenet do so on Chinese-built computers!! :-)

I'll make you something really good that works.

OK if it sounds better than this:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/jaau...aaudio300b.htm

and looks as good, I'll order one - 400 quid OK with you (with valves)...???

I don't think Ian could buy the parts and materials for less than 400quid,
or about usd $700.
I doubt Sowter could do the 2 OPTs and PT and a choke for less than the 400
quid.

But unless otherwise proven, the OPTs and power trannys are probably not great
quality.

Nice paint on the outside though.

Ppl in the know would chuck away the chinese valves and use WE 300B........


Send a thankyou note to the Chinese Communist Party who
controls worker wages and conditions.

And if wages are usd $2 per day, and half the price is for chinese labour,
there is 250 man hours per amp, that's 5 weeks at 50 hrs per week of labour for
1 man.
But that just sounds way too much labour in a grimy noisy dirty mass production
chinese factory, and I bet no more than 2 man weeks of labour is involved.

The rest goes where? CCP? BMW for the boss?

I have seen quite a few dodgy tube amps, not all were chinese.


Patrick Turner.