On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:27:48 +0200, Forwarder wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:


I'm not so keen that I would come as far as Helsinki from London to do
it.

That, I can understand.

I do occasionally come to Helsinki for work, though, and when I
do, I will let you know so we can see if we can put this together.


That sounds great. Once you give me your permission I will send you a
personal mail then, with my contact details. (The only stipulation here
is that you must promise never to reveal them in any public forum.)

In fact, I was just recently in London on business also. I was somewhere
near this little suburb town called "high wycombe" stayed in a hotell
called "the bull" etc.. Very cute, serene place, it was.. I've been
recently *very* busy, now things are a bit relaxed, but if I had had the
time then (bout a month ago) I could have arranged a meet with you to do
*my* kind of test: Ie, I would humbly come over to your abode, speaker
cables in hand, hook them up make you listen and ask, "ferchrissake, you
really hear no difference??"


As I have said, what I can or cannot hear is of no importance. The
fact is that you hear a difference in a circumstance where common
sense and science say you should not. The test is thus whether *you*
are actually hearing a difference, or are simply mistaken. To make
that test fair, it must be done under the identical circumstances
which prompt you to hear the difference.



Actually, how about you pay my fare?

Well since you will be coming in for business why should I?? I can at
most, pay for the hotel money of extra day or two you for when you will
stick around some extra time for the test.

You will certainly get much more
than that back when you claim your £1,000.

?? I thought it was pinkerton, not you, that put up that 1000 cash
money? I find it just extremely difficult to believe that some creature
of a stewart pinkerton would live up to his promise and actually pay up
any money even if I do "pass the test", as it were. My only take on this
is curiosity, nothing else. In fact, I *know* for a fact that pinkerton
would say and do anything rather then pay up, so don't take that silly
creature into the equation at all, please.


I have no reason to believe he is not a man of his word. If you would
like to do this thing independently of his challenge, of course, I am
happy to go along with it. I am not offering any money.

And my suggestion of your paying my fare was not to be taken
seriously.



When you say 100% certainty, do you mean we can forget the 16 out of
20 and go for a straight 20 out of 20?

I thought it was 15? No, I'll keep that err margin accounting for the
stress induced by actually performing such a test.



OK - the test will be as I proposed, then.

Ok, 15, or 16 right answers(?), and using my current speaker cables
against some stock lamp cord, whatever the gauge, in my home system. I
can provide you with a local sceptic here (or you might know one
yourself) and I'll have buddy help me out also (as is stipulated with
your protocol).. And results, fairly and honestly, will be made public.

It is 16 - Stewarts stipulation was "more than 15".

This is all provisional, of course. The £1,000 is Stewarts, and he
hasn't yet approved my protocol. If, and when, he does, we can sort
out the details. He may want some changes.

I would also like to gather a few more responses to refine my proposed
protocol - I have already seen a few problems with it that I will deal
with and re-post the page.

d

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